Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

owlbethere · 09-03-2020 05:58PM

It's said children don't usually get this as bad. Their immune system would be considered weaker than adults. It's actually quite baffling.

Their play would be considered a form of relaxation, something that many adults don't have. Many adults live a high stress lifestyle. Maybe stress plays a part.

So far, many who get this can fight it off. Maybe if an infection is caught early, it can be treated at home with home medicine and a point of relaxation before it gets worse and critical. Maybe clutching at straws there.

A lockdown now would serve two purposes:
1) for anyone infected and not know yet, they would be in self isolation and maybe they can fight the infection in their body better.
2) reduced transmission

caveat emptor · 09-03-2020 05:59PM

tina1040 wrote: »

Had the same here today. One teenager child with symptoms. I asked how can I know if he has had contact with a known case as we don't know where they are. I was fobbed of with a vague answer that I would have been informed through tracing. It makes no sense that he is not being tested so the rest of us know what to do.

gabeeg wrote: »

Sounds like this idiot might too

https://twitter.com/StefSimanowitz/status/1236778356105981953?s=20

I think this explains a lot. At least Boris has the decency to say it to the people on TV. It has been decided that the economic pain of a drawn out pandemic would be worse than "short sharp take it on the chin" approach. Hence the lack of travel restrictions, pandemic control.

Whatever about the appalling human cost I hope the financial calculations are correct. I suspect they may not. Pension obligations will be reduced massively. UK has been talking about a "ticking time bomb" regarding pensions for some time. What of all the long term health damage the may be caused by such a virus. Fairly crude and inhumane solution.

If one country decides this approach then the virus will roll around the world with impunity no mater what any other country does.

Away With The Fairies · 09-03-2020 05:59PM

It's so sad looking at all the old people in town. It must be such a scary time for them.

Sigma101 · 09-03-2020 06:00PM

Duke of Url wrote: »

Go on. Tell me about the 30%

Most of the 30% are still being treated and will recover. See the yellow part of graph below. Fatalities likely to be just under 4%.

Seamai · 09-03-2020 06:00PM

minggatu wrote: »

Iceland-population 360000 -60 cases
2020 coronavirus outbreak in Iceland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Iceland most cases have an Italian background

That's massive given the size of their population.

silver2020 · 09-03-2020 06:01PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

I don't really get this trolley thing.

You can't put Covid patients on trolleys in A&E. You can't put them in A&E full stop. They will infect all around them if you did.

Just look at some of the images in China. People wheeled into isolation centres while on trolleys in something akin to that used on premature babies.

We're not really prepared, lets be honest.

The hse have never ever said that people displaying Covid 19 will be in a&e. Only eejits on social media have suggested that because, well, they're eejits.

HSE have said they have isolation wards.

But because people are running scared because they believe the sh1te in social media and rags like the daily muck, they are suddenly better and donlt feel the need for a&e.

If you looked at an a&e ward on a normal day, esp on a monday, then number of people with the most minor of issues is unbelievable.

Seem the hypochondriacs are afraid of actually getting sick for once!

bb12 · 09-03-2020 06:01PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

No it wasn't

Army rounding them up.

https://twitter.com/Pabloneruda54/status/1237047285906903042?s=20

italy really need to upgrade their police car sirens

Lashes28 · 09-03-2020 06:02PM

Is Milan not supposed to be on lockdown ?

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/lombardia/milano/duomo-milano.html

Duke of Url · 09-03-2020 06:02PM

Are We still keeping all our confirmed cases in hospital or did we kick them out into self quarantine and only kept the critical guy from Cork in ICU.

Kermit.de.frog · 09-03-2020 06:02PM

Cyprus confirms first two cases.

But NOT the Turkish side of the island of course.

Turkey reports not so much as a sniffle related to COVID 19.

What a country, what a leader!

Nijmegen · 09-03-2020 06:03PM

Sigma101 wrote: »

Most of the 30% are still being treated and will recover. See the yellow part of graph below. Fatalities likely to be just under 4%.

It will be fascinating to see studies done at the end of this with those very clear graphs run out for different countries, noting the steps they took and at what point, for the result they garnered. Put to bed for example the hypothetical studies about whether or not more democratic or more autocratic governments do better in these situations (and I'm including S Korea and Singapore on the more autocratic side, when it comes to this sort of thing)

Away With The Fairies · 09-03-2020 06:03PM

Whatever buildings they are building around the country, office complexes or new hotels, I think it's time they get turned into an isolation hospital.

Ipso · 09-03-2020 06:03PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Cyprus confirms first two cases.

But NOT the Turkish side of the island of course.

Turkey reports not so much as a sniffle related to COVID 19.

What a country, what a leader!

Kemal would be proud.

dan786 · 09-03-2020 06:03PM

Two schools in Co Down - a primary and a secondary schools that share same site - have closed for a week after a pupil at one of the schools tested positive for Covid-19.

The pupil is one of the five cases announced last night, and is not a new case.

Duke of Url · 09-03-2020 06:03PM

Sigma101 wrote: »

Most of the 30% are still being treated and will recover. See the yellow part of graph below. Fatalities likely to be just under 4%.

tobefrank321 · 09-03-2020 06:03PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It's so sad looking at all the old people in town. It must be such a scary time for them.

What makes it worse also is that they are probably struggling to buy essentials and things like hand sanitiser because some clowns decided to buy up everything in the shop.

Really we should restrict hand sanitiser to those most at risk.

DOCARCH · 09-03-2020 06:04PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

What a country, what a leader!

#presidentforlife

And, while you are at it, take all our clean refugees!

Nijmegen · 09-03-2020 06:04PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

What makes it worse also is that they are probably struggling to buy essentials and things like hand sanitiser because some clowns decided to buy up everything in the shop.

Really we should restrict hand sanitiser to those most at risk.

Well in the spread of a virus, everyone needs to wash their hands to keep those at risk away from contact.

spurious · 09-03-2020 06:05PM

tobsey wrote: »

I’d prefer the doctor treating me to be a bit better than above average.

As would I, but 400 is not a 'not particularly good' result, which is what I was replying to.
Just part of the bandying about of lies non-facts here.

silver2020 · 09-03-2020 06:05PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It's so sad looking at all the old people in town. It must be such a scary time for them.

Not many are on social media, so they don't have social media scare disease - which is far worse than covid 19.

My mother is 89, she couldn't give a rats arse about it at present and will be at bridge 3 times this week.

She will take normal precautions, but aside from that her life will continue as normal and she'll go out shopping and meeting people.

She's not on facebook, or twitter and she doesn't read tabloids. So currently she's safe from scaremongeringitus

Nijmegen · 09-03-2020 06:06PM

Lashes28 wrote: »

Is Milan not supposed to be on lockdown ?

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/lombardia/milano/duomo-milano.html

The Italians aren't covering themselves in glory here.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 09-03-2020 06:06PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It's so sad looking at all the old people in town. It must be such a scary time for them.

My in-laws are early 70s. The picture of relaxation, both of them. Could not care less. And my MIL has a lung condition.

Pudsy33 · 09-03-2020 06:07PM

Lashes28 wrote: »

Is Milan not supposed to be on lockdown ?

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/lombardia/milano/duomo-milano.html

You can't enter or leave AFAIK but you're not confined to home.

tobefrank321 · 09-03-2020 06:07PM

silver2020 wrote: »

The hse have never ever said that people displaying Covid 19 will be in a&e. Only eejits on social media have suggested that because, well, they're eejits.

HSE have said they have isolation wards.

But because people are running scared because they believe the sh1te in social media and rags like the daily muck, they are suddenly better and donlt feel the need for a&e.

If you looked at an a&e ward on a normal day, esp on a monday, then number of people with the most minor of issues is unbelievable.

Seem the hypochondriacs are afraid of actually getting sick for once!

While its good less people are going to A&E, its kind of irrelevant to treatment of Covid.

Now is the time for the HSE to be scoping facilities to isolate large numbers, and even to build the prefab facilities if necessary. And not just for a couple of cases, but for potentially thousands.

What Username Guidelines · 09-03-2020 06:08PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

What makes it worse also is that they are probably struggling to buy essentials and things like hand sanitiser because some clowns decided to buy up everything in the shop.

Really we should restrict hand sanitiser to those most at risk.

In a private facebook group for parents of kids with cancer there is absolute panic over being unable to source hand gel, masks, etc. At any time there are so many families going through what is new to a lot of people, stringent handwashing and disinfecting of surfaces. These parents have enough anxiety to be dealing with without this added burden. Thankfully my own daughter is recovered now but this whole isolation/cleaning is really dialling up my PTSD

gmisk · 09-03-2020 06:08PM

Lashes28 wrote: »

Is Milan not supposed to be on lockdown ?

https://www.skylinewebcams.com/en/webcam/italia/lombardia/milano/duomo-milano.html

It doesn't mean people cant go out...they aren't being welded into their apartment blocks just yet...

DOCARCH · 09-03-2020 06:08PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

My in-laws are early 70s. The picture of relaxation, both of them. Could not care less. And my MIL has a lung condition.

que sera sera....

fits · 09-03-2020 06:09PM

tobeFrank321 wrote: »

Now is the time for the HSE to be scoping facilities to isolate large numbers, and even to build the prefab facilities if necessary. And not just for a couple of cases, but for potentially thousands.

Why didnt the HSE think of this?

Oh wait... https://www.echolive.ie/corknews/Coronavirus-latest-Builders-working-around-the-clock-to-create-northside-isolation-unit-e61d7e76-99f8-40b0-8db9-1d23e148f5c2-ds

Strazdas · 09-03-2020 06:09PM

WIne Gums wrote: »

In 1918 there was the Spanish Flu pandemic.
Estimates vary as to the total number who died.
An estimate from 1991 says it killed 25–39 million people.

Info from Wikipedia

It was a freak event. The virus got every lucky break imaginable, coming at the end of a four year world war and with millions of troops carrying the flu being dispersed across the globe.

Xertz · 09-03-2020 06:09PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

21 cases with a population of less than 5M people we are actually already worse than japan, they have 4.2 infected per milion, we have 4.7

The only issue is that with numbers only being in the tens, that doesn’t really matter. It’s almost statistically irrelevant.

The concerns would be more about large clusters and speed of transmission.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP