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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭SpitfireIV


    citysights wrote: »
    Someone one from Poland said Nostradamus predicted this and this virus would be short lived.I think Nostradamus predictions were vague though, still interesting.

    Didnt Nostrodamus also say the world was going to end in 1999 :/ It seems for every event Nostrodamus has a 'preducion'. His ramblings are like those ridiculous horoscopes, you read into them what you want, ie its all BS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman


    Wuhan shake or Elbow...
    Have a look :)
    This has already taken off around campus's in Ireland

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-china-51726440/coronavirus-the-wuhan-shake-or-the-elbow-bump

    Elbow still not the best if you are sneezing or coughing into it. Vulcan salute better :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 492 ✭✭ax530


    I hope this bad weather helps keeping numbers down as lot people won't go out & about in rain.
    I think closing schools from St Patrick s day until after Easter would help if they suggested families staying at home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,065 ✭✭✭otnomart


    BLIZZARD7 wrote: »
    I read somewhere that Germany isn't actively reporting it's serious/critical numbers anymore? Might explain the very low number. They are doing well with 0 deaths so far though.
    I heard on some News report that Countries have to report to WHO only the number of positives to the test.
    I have not seen any numbers from Germany on number of tests carried out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Outside of the body I should have meant in the open environment. For flu transmission higher humidity limits spread. Whether this applies to the coronavirus is another matter of course.

    https://www.livescience.com/27533-flu-transmission-humidity.html

    Jaysus! Don't mention the f word. You're not allowed to compare covid19 to anything other than the Black Death.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Technical question, but is there an argument that since children, especially primary school age, do not seem to be affected by this infection that they are less likely to be vectors of the disease.
    I simply don't know and maybe evidence just doesn't exist either way, but basically are kids not affected because the virus does not grow in their bodies in the same way or do they just not exhibit the same damaging symptoms but virus is still there.

    If any potential school closures could be limited to secondary schools it would be a lot less disruptive.

    Just a thought...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    otnomart wrote: »
    About the US outbreak:
    "it looks like the large majority of current cases in Washington State derive from a single introduction event.
    this introduction event was likely mid-Jan
    https://bedford.io/blog/ncov-cryptic-transmission/
    even if it wasn't WA1 that introduced the virus, this level of genetic diversity alongside frequent positive specimens argues for a sizable outbreak
    Knowing that transmission was initiated on Jan 15 allows to estimate the total number of infections that exist in this cluster today. Preliminary analysis puts this at 570 with an 90% uncertainty interval of between 80 and 1500 infections."

    Now I wonder if any spread occurred from the US to Ireland and other European countries

    The US didn't put in any measures to stop the spread of it. I am not sure why. A pandemic would actually be quite detrimental to Trump's financial plans. It might have some economic pragmatism in the long term (killing off the elderly) but I would have thought that the medium term economic impact would have been something they would have wanted to avoid.

    And of course Trump himself would be significantly at risk if he contracted the disease himself (something like a 10% chance of mortality given his age). He has already been in a room with someone infected. The man has a screw loose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭I Am The Law


    Source?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭I Am The Law


    ........ Source?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    ax530 wrote: »
    I hope this bad weather helps keeping numbers down as lot people won't go out & about in rain.
    I think closing schools from St Patrick s day until after Easter would help if they suggested families staying at home

    I was naturally hibernating all winter with only two trips into town since Christmas. The rest of my trips were local.


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    So going to Madrid in May would be a bad idea?

    I have a holiday booked to Greece in May. Final payment will come out of my account next Monday. I can’t see myself going as it stands due to the responsibilities I have here. If I didn’t have to think of others, I’d happily lie isolated on a beach for 7 days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭I Am The Law


    All together now ......Source?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭evil_seed


    nthclare wrote: »

    We've gone from being ok because we're on an Island to 20%+ getting sick...

    Where are you getting this BS? The fear has a tight grip on you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,599 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    UK NOW ON 319

    Irish figure to follow later today......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,686 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    2 Dublin bus vehicles are under quarantine, 1 in C'road and 1 in D'brook.
    I would expect the numbers infected to rise significantly now.

    Source?
    Text speak is a scourge. Who will know C'road is Cunningham (assuming it is). Why not D'bus?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,059 ✭✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,011 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Here's one for the two digit posters who think this is all overblown and we are concerned over nothing:
    In Washington State, the nursing home that has faced the brunt of the coronavirus outbreak thus far in the United States said on Sunday that it had seen some residents go from no symptoms to death in just a matter of a few hours.

    Tim Killian, a spokesman for the nursing home, Life Care Center of Kirkland, said its medical staff had found the coronavirus to be troubling, volatile and unpredictable.

    “It was surprising and shocking to us that we have seen that level of escalation from symptoms to death,” Mr. Killian said. He said the center was still in triage mode as it worked to get a handle on the issue for its remaining 55 residents.

    On Sunday, health officials raised the death toll in Washington to 18, with 16 of those linked to Life Care, including 15 residents. Mr. Killian said other residents were in the process of getting test results, and six of them were ill.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/08/health/coronavirus-spread-united-states.html

    When it gets into nursing homes in this country, we will see the same, unfortunately.

    The sh​it really has hit the fan on a global scale. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,430 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    France banned all public gatherings of more than 1000 people.
    Unclear if it related to indoor or outdoor though.

    Was the Ireland v France game called off for that reason, or based on other advice?

    Anyone know?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 47 industry accountant


    joe40 wrote: »
    Technical question, but is there an argument that since children, especially primary school age, do not seem to be affected by this infection that they are less likely to be vectors of the disease.
    I simply don't know and maybe evidence just doesn't exist either way, but basically are kids not affected because the virus does not grow in their bodies in the same way or do they just not exhibit the same damaging symptoms but virus is still there.

    If any potential school closures could be limited to secondary schools it would be a lot less disruptive.

    Just a thought...

    From primary school kids all over the country..."Shut up you!!"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭catrat12


    Sorry for the post again but honestly had enough now there is boys from my school going all over Europe this weekend school has no plans to send notes to parents or even advise a two week stay at home, also no plans in place to even give the school a good clean in evenings no plan in place nothing typical Irish mentality


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    All together now ......Source?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,907 ✭✭✭Stevieluvsye


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    Source?
    Text speak is a scourge. Who will know C'road is Cunningham (assuming it is). Why not D'bus?

    There is no cunningham rd


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    I fly to from Dublin to Prague on the 17th of March.

    Prague to Krakow on the 19th of March.

    Krakow to Dublin on the 21st of March.

    What would people do it my position?

    All opinions welcome, thank you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,137 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    joe40 wrote: »
    Technical question, but is there an argument that since children, especially primary school age, do not seem to be affected by this infection that they are less likely to be vectors of the disease.
    I simply don't know and maybe evidence just doesn't exist either way, but basically are kids not affected because the virus does not grow in their bodies in the same way or do they just not exhibit the same damaging symptoms but virus is still there.

    If any potential school closures could be limited to secondary schools it would be a lot less disruptive.

    Just a thought...

    I hear and I may be wrong, it is because their immune systems are new to fighting attacks they know exactly what to attack where as people in 40s up their immune system has been in use for years and is not sure how to deal with the attack.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Jaysus! Don't mention the f word. You're not allowed to compare covid19 to anything other than the Black Death.

    It would seem so. Obviously you can't ignore bad news just because its bad, but there are snippets in there like the South Korean data that holds out some hope about a lower CFR etc. In fact we won't know the final CFR for this for many years I suspect until the statisticians and medical historians have properly crunched the numbers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭dougm1970


    joe40 wrote: »
    Technical question, but is there an argument that since children, especially primary school age, do not seem to be affected by this infection that they are less likely to be vectors of the disease.
    I simply don't know and maybe evidence just doesn't exist either way, but basically are kids not affected because the virus does not grow in their bodies in the same way or do they just not exhibit the same damaging symptoms but virus is still there.

    If any potential school closures could be limited to secondary schools it would be a lot less disruptive.

    Just a thought...


    so, they are carriers ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,429 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    DVDM93 wrote: »
    I fly to from Dublin to Prague on the 17th of March.

    Prague to Krakow on the 19th of March.

    Krakow to Dublin on the 21st of March.

    What would people do it my position?

    All opinions welcome, thank you.


    Stay in Karkow!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭RandomName2


    Jaysus! Don't mention the f word. You're not allowed to compare covid19 to anything other than the Black Death.

    The Black Death is a bacterial disease which predominantly uses rats as a vector. It is entirely different. Seasonal flu, SARS, 'Spanish flu', MERS, and Covid-19 are viral, respiratory human-to-human diseases that have a lot of similarities.

    It's the high handed 'sure flu kills lots of people get over yourself' attitude that people take exception to.

    It also pisses me off when people give me the flu because they have battled into work and don't give a damn about anybody else, but that's a different matter entirely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Phil.x


    I've a bad feeling they're going to announce a big increase in new cases tonight, about 17!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 288 ✭✭citysights


    SpitfireIV wrote: »
    Didnt Nostrodamus also say the world was going to end in 1999 :/ It seems for every event Nostrodamus has a 'preducion'. His ramblings are like those ridiculous horoscopes, you read into them what you want, ie its all BS.

    I simply made a comment no need to take my head off , well when we’ve senior health officials telling us 1.9 million people could develop this virus and pulling out magic numbers why not give good old Nostradamus a mention


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