Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

bb12 · 09-03-2020 01:34PM

does anybody have any idea when hand sanitizer should be available again? who manufactures it and where? i'm sure production has ramped up wherever the factories are but surely there should be more supplies available soon? or is that wishful thinking?

tobefrank321 · 09-03-2020 01:35PM

Several Ryanair flights from Milan to Dublin appear to be sold out for next week and the week after.

In the next few days, flights have double and tripled in price, indicating strong demand for Milan to Dublin Ryanair flights.

Thanks Michael O'Leary and Ryanair, you've just condemned us all to a coronavirus epidemic, all in the name of a quick buck. Take a bow you muppets.

eviltimeban · 09-03-2020 01:35PM

rustynutz wrote: »

I'd imagine Northern Italy is like hell on earth right now, everyone sick around you, elderly dying all round, no bars, gyms, shops etc open. I'd say any Italian that can is getting the fook outa dodge, nice 2 week break in Dublin while the worst blows over. Banning just italian flights isn't the answer though, those desperate enough to get out would just travel further afield into Germany, france etc. to fly. I think the horse has well and truly bolted on this one we have possibly hundreds of undiagnosed cases walking around infecting before and behind them

Why would they fly to Ireland though, when they can pack up their Fiat or Alfa Romeo and drive over the border to a neighbouring country?

Ipso · 09-03-2020 01:35PM

eldamo wrote: »

i revoke your statistics license.

hand in your gun and your badge

56 + 44 = 100
Check mate

eldamo · 09-03-2020 01:35PM

bb12 wrote: »

does anybody have any idea when hand sanitizer should be available again? who manufactures it and where? i'm sure production has ramped up wherever the factories are but surely there should be more supplies available soon? or is that wishful thinking?

how imminent do you think death is?

use soap, wash well, wash frequently

Drumpot · 09-03-2020 01:36PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

UK figures @2pm daily.
Ireland 7pm evening.

Currently, UK = 278
Ireland = 21 cases...

I understand why they are seperate, but this is one Island, I really wish they just combined Irelands number as there are currently over 30 people on this Island with the disease.

dan786 · 09-03-2020 01:36PM

A member of staff at Transport for London has tested positive for coronavirus.

A Transport for London spokeswoman said: "We are working closely with Public Health England and are following their advice after a member of staff tested positive for Covid-19.

"The safety of our staff and customers is our top priority, so we are taking all necessary precautions and a deep clean has taken place within the building used by the staff member."

wakka12 · 09-03-2020 01:36PM

More cases in Spain as cases almost double to 999 cases overnight
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-09/spain-says-coronavirus-cases-almost-doubled-overnight-to-999

eldamo · 09-03-2020 01:36PM

Ipso wrote: »

56 + 44 = 100
Check mate

hand in your chess set while you are at it!

ThePopehimself · 09-03-2020 01:36PM

twirlagig wrote: »

https://m.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/cheltenham/cheltenham-confirm-first-case-of-coronavirus-as-thousands-of-irish-travel-for-racing-festival-39027985.html

Next weeks Guidelines: "If you have been to China, Northern Italy or Cheltenham"

jarvis · 09-03-2020 01:36PM

Hamsterchops wrote: »

UK figures @2pm daily.
Ireland 7pm evening.

Currently, UK = 278
Ireland = 21 cases...

Did he not say in Friday’s evening update that from Monday they will do updates before 6pm each day?

namloc1980 · 09-03-2020 01:36PM

megabomberman wrote: »

South Korea are the one country giving me hope that this might not be as bad as the projections. China not so much due to the unreliability of their government and their unique, unreplicable response to the outbreak.

The thing is South Korea got stuck in very early, Europe has sat on its hands for four weeks, it is unknown if we can pull it back from this point. Also, we have to content with Italy which is going to be like an open wound constantly spreading the virus to other regions, which will undermine any effort we might make.

South Korea mobilised very early with large scale testing etc when they still only had a couple of hundred cases. Even with their efforts it's got to nearly 8,000 cases before looking like finally coming to a slow down.

Meanwhile over here there are none of these measures being taken. Italy is supposedly on lockdown on the north but all airports are open for business as usual.

Miike · 09-03-2020 01:37PM

Ipso wrote: »

Is that almost. 56% recovery rate or potentially 44% death rate?

I reckon its a 103% recovery rate with a 211.676% fatality rate based solely on my ability to make up numbers.

Fr_Dougal · 09-03-2020 01:37PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Checking Milan to Dublin flights last week, it seemed Ryanair had one flight a day from Milan to Dublin. Now it seems they have 2 flights a day.

Are they actually laying on extra flights to cater for demand?

Looking at the prices of tickets also, it seems demand is high.

What the hell is going on? Where is our government to step in?

Probably capitalising on the AerLingus decision to stop flights.

Ryanair being parasites.

Steve F · 09-03-2020 01:37PM

Ipso wrote: »

Is that almost. 56% recovery rate or potentially 44% death rate?

Fecked if I know:rolleyes:

Sir Oxman · 09-03-2020 01:37PM

Govt clarity on sick pay is also due today
https://www.thejournal.ie/st-patricks-day-dublin-decision-5038238-Mar2020/

marno21 · 09-03-2020 01:37PM

Interesting to note Italy and South Korea

Both have similar numbers of confirmed cases: 7,478 in South Korea and 7,375 in Italy.

However, 51 deaths in South Korea (0.6%) and 366 in Italy (5%). 622 recoveries in Italy and 166 in South Korea.

Given both have quite good health systems, I would be suspecting that Italy has a large number of non-recorded cases, frighteningly so. If Italy had a 1% death rate from all cases, it would mean there are ~37,000 cases in Italy at the minute.

It shows how South Korea's approach of testing and containing rather than leaving unconfirmed carriers roam free is. South Korea's daily new cases rate seems to be arresting whereas Italy's is skyrocketing.

And one thing that seems to be regularly forgotten is that the people getting infected today will be confirmed cases in 7-14 days time. So today's reported cases are actually people who got infected at the end of February/start of March. Therefore, being reactive here is fruitless, you are at best 7-14 days behind.

To put this in context, 14 days ago Ireland had 0 cases. At the same time, there was people getting infected in the country. Hence why holding the parades is absolutely daft. Having congregations of people who are unknowingly transmitting the virus.

eviltimeban · 09-03-2020 01:38PM

eldamo wrote: »

how imminent do you think death is?

use soap, wash well, wash frequently

My hands are in bits from all the washing. Be great if someone invented a hand soap, sanitizer, and moisturiser all in one!

wakka12 · 09-03-2020 01:38PM

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-prisons/six-die-in-italy-prison-riot-over-anti-coronavirus-measures-idUSKBN20W1JP?il=0
6 die in Italian prison riot because of ban on visiting from outsiders to stop coronavirus spread

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-france-disneyland/disneyland-paris-maintenance-worker-tests-positive-to-coronavirus-idUSKBN20W19T?il=0
Disneyland paris worker tests positive

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-iran-prisoners/iran-temporarily-releases-70000-prisoners-as-coronavirus-cases-surge-idUSKBN20W199?il=0
Iran has temporarily freed about 70,000 prisoners to combat the spread of the coronavirus in jails

boardise · 09-03-2020 01:38PM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Every time I get a slight bug or minor illness I start thinking has my cancer come back because it will one day. I finished my treatment last October and am now in remission. I have a 1 in 5 chance of it coming back over the next 2 years.

That means the odds are in your favour - generally a good place to be.

Hamsterchops · 09-03-2020 01:38PM

Drumpot wrote: »

I understand why they are seperate, but this is one Island, I really wish they just combined Irelands number as there are currently over 30 people on this Island with the disease.

But then you'd have to change the official UK figure, as it would need to have NI (NHS) cases cancelled & transferred to "the island of Ireland".

Either we stick with jurisdictions, or we don't.

leavingirl · 09-03-2020 01:39PM

MadYaker wrote: »

Monday morning anyone else hoping their work gets shut down?

Be careful what you wish for. This whole thing is being designed to bring in the greatest depression yet. You ain't seen nothing, yet.

Kermit.de.frog · 09-03-2020 01:39PM

wakka12 wrote: »

More cases in Spain as cases almost double to 999 cases overnight
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-09/spain-says-coronavirus-cases-almost-doubled-overnight-to-999

Spain needs to consider serious measures. Awful deterioration there in the last 24 hours.

Ludo · 09-03-2020 01:39PM

Drumpot wrote: »

I understand why they are seperate, but this is one Island, I really wish they just combined Irelands number as there are currently over 30 people on this Island with the disease.

Why not just combine the whole of europe so..thay are all "joined" also. Spain and Portugal don't combine theirs.
These things are usually done by juristictions as it simply makes sense. The same terms of reference for everyone. We whould adhere to that. This should not be something we want MORE of which his what some people seem to want.

Harry Palmr · 09-03-2020 01:39PM

eviltimeban wrote: »

Why would they fly to Ireland though, when they can pack up their Fiat or Alfa Romeo and drive over the border to a neighbouring country?

I think you've answered your own question :P

Sir Oxman · 09-03-2020 01:39PM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

Probably capitalising on the AerLingus decision to stop flights.

Ryanair being parasites.

But what of the 'lockdown' in Northern italy.
Some lockdown that.

Ipso · 09-03-2020 01:39PM

marno21 wrote: »

Interesting to note Italy and South Korea

Both have similar numbers of confirmed cases: 7,478 in South Korea and 7,375 in Italy.

However, 51 deaths in South Korea (0.6%) and 366 in Italy (5%). 622 recoveries in Italy and 166 in South Korea.

Given both have quite good health systems, I would be suspecting that Italy has a large number of non-recorded cases, frighteningly so. If Italy had a 1% death rate from all cases, it would mean there are ~37,000 cases in Italy at the minute.

It shows how South Korea's approach of testing and containing rather than leaving unconfirmed carriers roam free is. South Korea's daily new cases rate seems to be arresting whereas Italy's is skyrocketing.

And one thing that seems to be regularly forgotten is that the people getting infected today will be confirmed cases in 7-14 days time. So today's reported cases are actually people who got infected at the end of February/start of March. Therefore, being reactive here is fruitless, you are at best 7-14 days behind.

To put this in context, 14 days ago Ireland had 0 cases. At the same time, there was people getting infected in the country. Hence why holding the parades is absolutely daft. Having congregations of people who are unknowingly transmitting the virus.

Just because cases were concentrated in one region, it doesn’t mean wach region has the same level of concentration.

Fr_Dougal · 09-03-2020 01:40PM

marno21 wrote: »

Interesting to note Italy and South Korea

Both have similar numbers of confirmed cases: 7,478 in South Korea and 7,375 in Italy.

However, 51 deaths in South Korea (0.6%) and 366 in Italy (5%). 622 recoveries in Italy and 166 in South Korea.

Given both have quite good health systems, I would be suspecting that Italy has a large number of non-recorded cases, frighteningly so. If Italy had a 1% death rate from all cases, it would mean there are ~37,000 cases in Italy at the minute.

It shows how South Korea's approach of testing and containing rather than leaving unconfirmed carriers roam free is. South Korea's daily new cases rate seems to be arresting whereas Italy's is skyrocketing.

And one thing that seems to be regularly forgotten is that the people getting infected today will be confirmed cases in 7-14 days time. So today's reported cases are actually people who got infected at the end of February/start of March. Therefore, being reactive here is fruitless, you are at best 7-14 days behind.

To put this in context, 14 days ago Ireland had 0 cases. At the same time, there was people getting infected in the country. Hence why holding the parades is absolutely daft. Having congregations of people who are unknowingly transmitting the virus.

Older age profile in Italy. The majority of deaths are 80+, and that’s by a massive margin.

amadangomor · 09-03-2020 01:40PM

marno21 wrote: »

Interesting to note Italy and South Korea

Both have similar numbers of confirmed cases: 7,478 in South Korea and 7,375 in Italy.

However, 51 deaths in South Korea (0.6%) and 366 in Italy (5%). 622 recoveries in Italy and 166 in South Korea.

Given both have quite good health systems, I would be suspecting that Italy has a large number of non-recorded cases, frighteningly so. If Italy had a 1% death rate from all cases, it would mean there are ~37,000 cases in Italy at the minute.

It shows how South Korea's approach of testing and containing rather than leaving unconfirmed carriers roam free is. South Korea's daily new cases rate seems to be arresting whereas Italy's is skyrocketing.

And one thing that seems to be regularly forgotten is that the people getting infected today will be confirmed cases in 7-14 days time. So today's reported cases are actually people who got infected at the end of February/start of March. Therefore, being reactive here is fruitless, you are at best 7-14 days behind.

To put this in context, 14 days ago Ireland had 0 cases. At the same time, there was people getting infected in the country. Hence why holding the parades is absolutely daft. Having congregations of people who are unknowingly transmitting the virus.

Great post

Funsterdelux · 09-03-2020 01:41PM

Miike wrote: »

I reckon its a 103% recovery rate with a 211.676% fatality rate based solely on my ability to make up numbers.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP