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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #3062
    industry accountant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 47 ✭industry accountant


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Because I'm being real about the whole thing and not trying to scare people to death like a lot of people here?

    You're not being real, you are totally wrong.
    Which part of the fact that a couple of people have caught the virus from an unknown source ie none of the current known patients do you not understand?


  • #3063
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Cw85 wrote: »
    The outbreak happened months ago, we have 22 cases, people talking bull saying there's more that this etc etc numbers have gone up very slow in Ireland compared to other countries, you think the government would be telling us to get on with things if it was more serious here? Too many tin foil hats going around you'd swear it was the end of the world


    Doesn't matter, economic impact is here. Let's wait for the social now.

    “We’ve not seen anything like this since the financial crisis.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2020/mar/09/markets-plunge-crash-financial-crisis-coronavirus-ftse-italy-oil-price-dow-business-live


  • #3064
    silver2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    Impossible to know who or how many might be infected on it. Who they will spread it to. Where they are going. And who sits in the seat of a potentially infected person on the next flight. Or used the toilet on the flight after an infected person or in Dublin airport. Not to mention if they got in a taxi or on a bus after landing in Dublin.

    I don't think I've ever come across a more negligent approach to a problem than Simon Harris/HSE/Leo Varadkar/Michael O'Leary's approach to this. None of them actually seem to give a sh*t.

    what experience do you have?


  • #3065
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Advising people of regular hand washing techniques is well and good but people don't know when to do it.

    So many examples:
    Going in and out from buildings - work, restaurants, whatever. Wash hands
    Coming home from coming in from public - the first thing people should do is wash hands.



    This virus is never going to be contained any more. Theres community transmissions. Some people will do their part with the guidelines but others will be reckless and careless.

    After people get home, they should wipe the steering wheel, gear knob, indicator stalks (lights switch) of their car, the belt buckle and the door handle and the door handles to their house.


  • #3066
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Because I'm being real about the whole thing and not trying to scare people to death like a lot of people here?

    I'm afraid you're on the extreme end of things.

    On one side we have those who are saying the virus is a mixture os SARS and AIDS, and on the other side we see people in complete denial of the situation.

    I have sympathy with you. It's not an easy thing to accept.


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  • #3067
    Kaisr Sose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,683 ✭✭✭Kaisr Sose


    Funsterdelux wrote: »
    Which is worse?

    2 weeks no pay and being cooked up for it or taking the hit of not going?

    Answering a question with a question? What sort of answer is that?


  • #3068
    Cilldara_2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    gozunda wrote: »
    Let's look at personal taxation in detail

    According to the Irish Tax Institute

    In Ireland.



    On Health spending

    The 2020 budget saw an increase of €1,006m (6.3%) on 2019 funding - bringing the Health Service Executive budget to a record 17.4 billion 

    It is estimated that Pay rises and pension payments, will eat up close to €400 million of the sum

    If we have a shortfall being spent on actual health care - it is not attributable to actual lack of funding ...

    I won't disagree with anyone making the point that the squeezed middle in Ireland is particularly squeezed.

    But I'm also reluctant to compare one type of tax from country to country. Using Sweden. Their equivalent of employer's PRSI is 31.42%. Here it's 10.95%. Their standard rate VAT is 25%, here it's 23%. I don't know how their property tax stacks up against ours. Nor do I know how reliefs and other taxes compare.

    Whereas when you look at total tax in the economy, you don't need to drill into the individual taxes and reliefs that vary wildly from country to country.


  • #3069
    ThePopehimself
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭ThePopehimself


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Minister for Health Simon Harris has said there is a moderate-to-high risk that Ireland will follow a pattern seen in other EU countries in regard to the Covid-19 outbreak such as Italy, France and Germany.
    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0309/1121035-cabinet-virus-committee/

    g'way... man's pure genius so he is.


  • #3070
    Cw85
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭Cw85


    Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »
    Cw85 gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8 no db8. 58 posts, noice.

    I would recommend other posters don't engage with this person, clearly they don't get much attention in the real world, that they have to pretend they're this oblivious.

    wtf? oblivious? I look at facts not made up fairly land scare mongering


  • #3071
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    First time since the beginning the death rate is going up from 5.64% to 5.79%
    This is the effect of medical resources shortage, not all people in critical conditions are admitted to hospital


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  • #3072
    yellowlabrador
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭yellowlabrador


    https://twitter.com/silviast9/status/1236933818654896129
    a doctor reporting from a hospital


  • #3073
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/italy/

    "High degree of caution"

    Should be DO NOT TRAVEL.

    What a joke.

    Spain as well on no problem, Spain will be like Italy within the week!!


  • #3074
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    After a flight from Milan to Dublin airport, there are potentially numerous areas in Dublin airport which will be infected.

    Passport checking queue and also the desk where passports are checked. Dublin airport toilets. Baggage areas.

    Because of these flights, I'm predicting Dublin airport will become a hub for this virus spread.


  • #3075
    tobefrank321
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,527 ✭✭✭tobefrank321


    silver2020 wrote: »
    what experience do you have?

    The experience of watching what the Chinese do. Which works.

    What experience does Simon Harris have?


  • #3076
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,842 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    amadangomor wrote: »
    Great but have you seen what's happening in Italy, now France and Spain.

    All I'm saying is ther is some light , why are good reports not getting highlighted, reading this and most media publications will push most balanced people to the edge, hense the muppets stock-piling loo roll, while the most needy (elderly) will suffer. Be careful , be prudent, but lets have the facts good and bad.


  • #3077
    Ninthlife
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,460 ✭✭✭Ninthlife


    Anyone know what time Ireland will get an update on confirmed figured etc


  • #3078
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Gloves, wear gloves if you are going out and about, pushing shopping trollies, entering and exiting push doors and so on. You won't look silly as it's basically winter ;)


  • #3079
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Cw85 wrote: »
    Because I'm being real about the whole thing and not trying to scare people to death like a lot of people here?

    The reason I'm saying not to respond is because you are stubbornly sticking to you view when people have presented evidence issued by the health minister and the HSE to the contrary. As much as I like an aul argument i also recognize when having one is a complete waste of time :)


  • #3080
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Boggles wrote: »
    All the parades will be cancelled.

    The reason people are making up there own mind is they know that parades don't magically happen and it takes countless hours from volunteers.

    They are just saving them the hassle.

    But Simon will make a decision maybe soon, maybe.


    Harris and FG are waiting till the very last minute to ensure as many tourists don't cancel as is possible.


  • #3081
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    thebaz wrote: »
    South Korean news cases down to 165 - this is more good news, and yet not reported amidst the panic headlines.

    I believe the statistics from South Korea will be the most acccurate as they are doing most testing.
    I admit that the West will not be able to set the standards of South Korea, for various social, economic and infrastructure reasons.

    But surely we should have some balance in media reports instead of drip feed panic inducing headlines.

    They are taking much more extreme measures in South Korea than here to control this. They closed all schools and universities in the infected area weeks ago. They have soldiers our spraying disinfectant in the streets in Daegu. They've set up drive thru test centres. That's how they managed to keep a lid on this. There's no stomach for those types of measures here. We're still officially going ahead with the parade FFS.


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  • #3082
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,422 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    First time since the beginning the death rate is going up from 5.64% to 5.79%

    That's what happens when the medical capability in an affected area is overloaded... death rate is going to surge in that area.

    That's what spooked China in Wuhan and it's what happening in Lombardy and probably Iran at the moment.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #3083
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Kaisr Sose wrote: »
    Answering a question with a question? What sort of answer is that?

    Thats a good question


  • #3084
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    After a flight from Milan to Dublin airport, there are potentially numerous areas in Dublin airport which will be infected.

    Passport checking queue and also the desk where passports are checked. Dublin airport toilets. Baggage areas.

    Because of these flights, I'm predicting Dublin airport will become a hub for this virus spread.

    Those flights from Milan are probably empty or close to it.

    I'd be more worried about flights from the US at this stage


  • #3085
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    cnocbui wrote: »
    After people get home, they should wipe the steering wheel, gear knob, indicator stalks (lights switch) of their car, the belt buckle and the door handle and the door handles to their house.

    and the keyboard at the PC, and the mouse, the toilet handle, light switches, kettle handle, fridge door handle, buy new toothbrushes and keep them seperate and not all in the same glass at the sink. etc


  • #3086
    morebarn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 ✭morebarn


    industry accountant wrote: »
    I was in my local Tesco yesterday. Saw a man in the frozen food section sneezed into his hand, used his fingers to wipe his nose, rested his hand on the lip of the fridge before reaching down and picking up a box of something. Then he decided he didn't want it and put it back, disgusting behaviour at the best of times, but just plain ignorant given the current situation.

    There are idiots like this all over.

    Agreed!
    Fair play to my local SuperValu though.
    They have a sanitation station at the store entrance ; hand wash dispensers, boxes of wipes, antiseptic spray,boxes of gloves, per towels. Plus a staff member on duty all day disinfecting trolleys and baskets.


  • #3087
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    It looks like the market rather than the government will end flights from Italy.


  • #3088
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    thebaz wrote: »
    All I'm saying is ther is some light , why are good reports not getting highlighted, reading this and most media publications will push most balanced people to the edge, hense the muppets stock-piling loo roll, while the most needy (elderly) will suffer. Be careful , be prudent, but lets have the facts good and bad.

    The Korea situation has been discussed on here but other European countries situations are far more relevant to us as we have similar systems of government/way of responding.

    Nothing to do with being good or bad news stories, just more relevant to us!


  • #3089
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    There are more than the confirmed number unless you can explain where the community transmission cases got their infection from? Divine intervention perhaps.

    It was the Immaculate Contagion, no doubt.


  • #3090
    2ygb4cmqetsjhx
    Closed Accounts Posts: 564 ✭✭✭2ygb4cmqetsjhx


    tobefrank321 wrote: »
    The experience of watching what the Chinese do. Which works.

    What experience does Simon Harris have?

    Again. I would be sceptical of anything coming out of China.


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  • #3091
    donalh087
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 615 ✭✭✭donalh087


    There are so many things I don't understand about the virus.

    There have been 2 cases diagnosed in Cork. Both from people with pre-existing conditions who were in hospital for a while (12 days in one case) before being diagnosed with Covid.

    The median time of incubation is 5 days. So anyone in contact with these people should already be showing symptoms.

    Why is there not a huge cluster in Cork?


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