Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

Talisman · 09-03-2020 08:24AM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Once bitten twice shy, they kept immaculate records during a certain conflict which were later used against them in court.

A coffee all over the keyboard moment.

Cody montana · 09-03-2020 08:24AM

Darc19 wrote: »

Big advantage of this.

Trump won't be re-elected.

He has utterly screwed up and America could be facing a pandemic as trump denied this was serious until last week. Four weeks after centre of disease control told him how bad it was.

Now they are chasing their tails.

Even their test kits have been deemed faulty

He’s still denying it’s serious.
Also said it would go from 15 to zero cases last week?

caveat emptor · 09-03-2020 08:24AM

Coronavirus: Doctors warn UK hospitals running out of protective equipment for staff

That's not going to help them stay alive. I've a family member who is a nurse. Purchased their own Personal Protective Equipment a few weeks ago. Has experience in Africa so knew what was needed.

Another supply side problem.

"This is going to be the game changer and nobody wants to address the problem. Our masks are made in China and they aren’t about to let any stock leave the country. Of our key PPE lines three are now unavailable for the rest of March and who knows when from there."

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-nhs-hospitals-masks-nurses-doctors-a9385131.html?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1583711950

DOCARCH · 09-03-2020 08:24AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Just heard him speaking alright.
No brainer to cancel but it won't stop tourists etc

Correct....can't stop the tourists.

However, having/allowing state sponsored mass gatherings to proceed, at which hundreds of thousands would attend and be in close proximity, would really be head in the sand stuff and downright negligent!

MadYaker · 09-03-2020 08:25AM

Darc19 wrote: »

Big advantage of this.

Trump won't be re-elected.

He has utterly screwed up and America could be facing a pandemic as trump denied this was serious until last week. Four weeks after centre of disease control told him how bad it was.

Now they are chasing their tails.

Even their test kits have been deemed faulty

It’ll be fine. Trump will just tell them it’s all the democrats fault and they’ll vote him in again no problem.

Cody montana · 09-03-2020 08:25AM

tillyfilly wrote: »

Dow futures point to opening drop of nearly 1,300 points, Treasury yields plunge amid oil price war

There will be total carnage today.

Bob24 · 09-03-2020 08:26AM

DOCARCH wrote: »

I honestly do not think we have a hope of that!

I am not too hopeful either ... it is likely that the total historical case count for Europe will be larger than the one for China at some point either this week or next week.

Hopefully when people see this it will act as a wake-up call that Europe is is losing that battle and needs to do more.

2xj3hplqgsbkym · 09-03-2020 08:28AM

Christy42 wrote: »

If there is 7 in the north would that not make 26 in the ROI which would be up from 21? Or are there 12 up north to make up the 33. I feel like I have missed something with the comments made here.

33 on the island 13 in NI

Patd6 · 09-03-2020 08:29AM

One of the active corona cases is in my neck of the woods, tallaght :l

Bob24 · 09-03-2020 08:30AM

tillyfilly wrote: »

Dow futures point to opening drop of nearly 1,300 points, Treasury yields plunge amid oil price war

Milan stock exchange opening soon ... it will look ugly.

Best performing Asian market today is the Shanghai stock exchange (although it is also dropping). Some people in China must be looking at this and smiling a bit ...

marno21 · 09-03-2020 08:30AM

whisky_galore wrote: »

You're not taking into account the average density of Trump supporters.

His supporters are not nearly enough to get him re-elected.

He’s already shaky in several key states he barely won in 2016. Between the hames his administration is making out of this and the fact that his primary achievement, the stock market, is in freefall, is bad news for him.

harr · 09-03-2020 08:30AM

I know he is doing **** all but wouldn’t you think Leo would put aside his junket to the states to be home to make decisions ... the week coming could be make or break .
Expecting big jump in numbers today or tomorrow and again after paddy’s day and when people return from cheltenham

Hamsterchops · 09-03-2020 08:31AM

Christy42 wrote: »

If there is 7 in the north would that not make 26 in the ROI which would be up from 21? Or are there 12 up north to make up the 33. I feel like I have missed something with the comments made here.

Well said, my point exactly.

Once you start messing around with the official numbers mistakes can be made...

Official figures for today Monday 9th March.

United Kingdom (NHS) 278 cases.
Ireland (HSE figures) 21 cases.

RebelButtMunch · 09-03-2020 08:34AM

I just got told we can work from home for the next 2 weeks.

MadYaker · 09-03-2020 08:34AM

harr wrote: »

I know he is doing **** all but wouldn’t you think Leo would put aside his junket to the states to be home to make decisions ... the week coming could be make or break .
Expecting big jump in numbers today or tomorrow and again after paddy’s day and when people return from cheltenham

I think it’s likely to be called off today along with the parades.

2ygb4cmqetsjhx · 09-03-2020 08:34AM

Bob24 wrote: »

In the meanwhile in China: makeshift hospitals are being closed as the number of sick people is dropping significantly.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2020/03/09/china-closes-makeshift-hospitals-as-virus-cases-plunge

I truly hope we can handle it in Europe as well as they seem to have done, but I think the reality of what needs to be done still hasn’t hit our leaders and some of our population. Anyone reading this should remember that Wuhan is still under more intense lockdown than northern Italy and that the whole of China still has some containment measures which aren’t even enforced in the Italian “red zone”.

Can we stop heaping praise on China. China is an authorarian ruinscape. This break out was called by China trying to cover it up. Also doubtful they have a handle on it. They are faking the numbers.

Yurt2 · 09-03-2020 08:35AM

Bob24 wrote: »

Best performing Asian market today is the Shanghai stock exchange by quite a margin. Some people in China must be looking at this and smiling a bit ...

The Shanghai index is down 3% from the start of trading as I type, Shenzhen is 4.1% down.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 09-03-2020 08:36AM

Coen Delightful Thumbscrew wrote: »

Can we stop heaping praise on China. China is an authorarian ruinscape. This break out was called by China trying to cover it up. Also doubtful they have a handle on it. They are faking the numbers.

They wouldn't be closing hospitals if they didn't have a handle on it I reckon.

whisky_galore · 09-03-2020 08:37AM

marno21 wrote: »

His supporters are not nearly enough to get him re-elected.

He’s already shaky in several key states he barely won in 2016. Between the hames his administration is making out of this and the fact that his primary achievement, the stock market, is in freefall, is bad news for him.

Remember when we all laughed and said he hadn't a hope? Trump, as president? LOL. Remember that?

DOCARCH · 09-03-2020 08:38AM

harr wrote: »

I know he is doing **** all but wouldn’t you think Leo would put aside his junket to the states to be home to make decisions ... the week coming could be make or break.

Let them eat cake!

If we get a lot of cases this week, and if minsters fly off all round the world the following week, there will be a public outcry!

Bob24 · 09-03-2020 08:38AM

Yurt! wrote: »

The Shanghai index is down 3% from the start of trading as I type, Shenzhen is 4.1% down.

Yeah and Tokyo is -5%. HK is -4%.

A month ago Shanghai would have been the worse hit.

amadangomor · 09-03-2020 08:40AM

From the Italian guy who post on a rugby forum I visit

"Guys, it’s me again, the Italian from the plagued zone.

Please spread the news to avoid the complete mess or at list try to.

Don’t go to crowded spaces, don’t touch your face and don’t shake hands when you are out, do not hug or kiss to greet friends or relatives.
Wash your hands, apply soap, then Apply water for 30 seconds, whenever it’s possible, even if it sounds dumb.
Help your elderly ones with medical and food supplies and please convince them to stay home.
Locked.

Wear gloves if you work with public, order to wear gloves to your workers if you own an enterprise dealing with public.

This ****e is serious, it spreads fast, I read the UK and Oz have its first victims, sorry guys but
you may be like Italy soon, you have a chance to learn from our experience.
France media mocked us a week ago, now they regret it, as my father is telling me from Nantes, where he lives.

Do now what I wrote up here, I know some of you are smiling thinking “it will never hit this zone”
“ he is exaggerating” “this guys has no spine” “my country will manage this better than Italy”.

Insult me, go ahead, but please do it anyway and bear in mind that here in Lombardia we have one the best public health care systems in the world, both in terms of quality and quantity of beds at disposal.

This ****e is serious, a lot more than you think."

lafors · 09-03-2020 08:40AM

So going on the HSE recommendations if you have the symptoms you're fine unless you've been to an infected area or have been in direct contact with someone who has it.
Am I paranoid but both my kids have temperatures, coughs, sore throat, one has a croup cough he gets when he's stuck like this and he has an inhaler for.
So according to the HSE (or other health executives elsewhere) they're fine because they've not been to anywhere with it or (knowingly) being in contact with someone with it.

Paranoia level high

:o

Bob24 · 09-03-2020 08:44AM

Coen Delightful Thumbscrew wrote: »

Can we stop heaping praise on China. China is an authorarian ruinscape. This break out was called by China trying to cover it up. Also doubtful they have a handle on it. They are faking the numbers.

Political discussions about China are for another thread, I am just talking purely about how they handled the epidemic situation and their outcome compared to what we are doing and what we can do in Europe.

WHO experts have confirmed they were impressed by what they saw, and they wouldn’t be closing makeshift hospitals if their number of cases wasn’t significantly dropping. I am not saying I trust every figure coming out of there (nor do I fully trust our figures btw), but doubting that the situation there has significantly improved seems more emotional than rational. I also have direct feedback from people living there and the situation clearly feels less tense and more under control to them.

harr · 09-03-2020 08:45AM

lafors wrote: »

So going on the HSE recommendations if you have the symptoms you're fine unless you've been to an infected area or have been in direct contact with someone who has it.
Am I paranoid but both my kids have temperatures, coughs, sore throat, one has a croup cough he gets when he's stuck like this and he has an inhaler for.
So according to the HSE (or other health executives elsewhere) they're fine because they've not been to anywhere with it or (knowingly) being in contact with someone with it.

Paranoia level high :o

Currently it seems they won’t test anyone who hasn’t been in direct contact with someone who has it or if they haven’t been traveling to a red zone
. The mind boggles as to how people are meant to know for certain if they haven’t been in direct contact with someone who has it.

amadangomor · 09-03-2020 08:46AM

lafors wrote: »

So going on the HSE recommendations if you have the symptoms you're fine unless you've been to an infected area or have been in direct contact with someone who has it.
Am I paranoid but both my kids have temperatures, coughs, sore throat, one has a croup cough he gets when he's stuck like this and he has an inhaler for.
So according to the HSE (or other health executives elsewhere) they're fine because they've not been to anywhere with it or (knowingly) being in contact with someone with it.

Paranoia level high :o

I would be definitely keeping them out of school and the combination of temperature and cough I would definitely ring your Doctor/local A and E

stephenjmcd · 09-03-2020 08:47AM

lafors wrote: »

So going on the HSE recommendations if you have the symptoms you're fine unless you've been to an infected area or have been in direct contact with someone who has it.
Am I paranoid but both my kids have temperatures, coughs, sore throat, one has a croup cough he gets when he's stuck like this and he has an inhaler for.
So according to the HSE (or other health executives elsewhere) they're fine because they've not been to anywhere with it or (knowingly) being in contact with someone with it.

Paranoia level high :o

It's perfectly possible to have head colds, flu's etc still at this time of year.

For example 4 of us in my house, 2 have had a bad dose for the last week and 2 of us are fine.

Best advice is to do the usual when your have a flu or head cold, stay at home and rest

Humberto Salazar · 09-03-2020 08:47AM

It would appear China and SK are getting to grips with it. I know, one can question this but their severe quarantine measures seem to be working. No sign of anything like that here. Which means it will certainly get much worse here before it gets better. The only issue is how much? And when the government here will take this seriously. Up to now it's doing the minimum to allay fears without doing much in it's control. Yes it's up to individuals to sort personal hygiene in this regard, but the banning of large gatherings, quarantining of areas etc must be implemented. Yes the virus may mild in most cases but it's a lottery, if you get it, do you want the bald statistics about getting severe pneumonia? I'd rather not thanks.

MadYaker · 09-03-2020 08:47AM

lafors wrote: »

So going on the HSE recommendations if you have the symptoms you're fine unless you've been to an infected area or have been in direct contact with someone who has it.
Am I paranoid but both my kids have temperatures, coughs, sore throat, one has a croup cough he gets when he's stuck like this and he has an inhaler for.
So according to the HSE (or other health executives elsewhere) they're fine because they've not been to anywhere with it or (knowingly) being in contact with someone with it.

Paranoia level high :o

The HSE only have a certain testing capacity so they have to prioritise people who they are certain have been in contact. They can’t test everyone who thinks they have it.

stephenjmcd · 09-03-2020 08:48AM

amadangomor wrote: »

I would be definitely keeping them out of school and the combination of temperature and cough I would definitely ring your Doctor/local A and E

Don't ring A&E if anyone suspects covid, your to ring your GP who will make contact with public health / national ambulance service if you are to be tested

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP