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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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  • #2372
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,612 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This is classic victim blaming. It's similar to blaming people getting drunk and walking an unfamiliar route and getting raped #theyshouldhaveknownbetter.... Vile

    #AhHeyorLeaveitout


  • #2373
    New Home
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 78,101 Mod ✭✭✭✭New Home


    Deleted User wrote: »
    This is classic victim blaming. It's similar to blaming people getting drunk and walking an unfamiliar route and getting raped #theyshouldhaveknownbetter.... Vile

    What would you say of someone who had an inconclusive HIV test and was due to be checked again went out and had unprotected sex while waiting to be retested? And no, I'm not comparing Coronavirus to HIV.


  • #2374
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Go China

    40 new confirmed cases, 22 new deaths (21 in Hubei) (red is so yesterday)

    Yesterday
    44 new confirmed cases, 27 new deaths


  • #2375
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,645 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Over 73,000 at the Manchester derby today. Many of them would have been closer to each other than is recommended for gatherings in confined spaces.

    Generally, you need to be 15 minutes or more in the vicinity of an infected person, within 1-2 metres, to be considered at-risk or a close contact.


  • #2376
    laurah591
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I think that any individual actions that contain this will help. Plan ahead for reducing social contact if you can. Seems sensible to me anyway.

    In the same boat, unsure at which point i should be pulling kids from primary school (helpful position to be on mat leave at present so can). Dont want to be be over reacting but would be worried abt community transmission in the east given that im living in a Dub suburb, further, i believe current caretaker goverment will not make difficult decisions like close schools


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  • #2377
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,440 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    NegativeCreep wrote: »
    I’m getting married in October and some of my close family will be travelling from Florida. I’m starting to worry they won’t be able to get here if this continues 😢

    That really is the least of anyone's worries. If they are elderly or in poor health you should really be more concerned that they be alive.

    Honestly, if I were due to marry in the coming months I would cancel the big wedding and proceed as soon as possible for a registry office wedding with minimum of attendees and then as man and wife put measures in place to protect each other, will, life insurances, health cover etc.


  • #2378
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Someone talking about Albania earlier - well no more

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1236805155594657792


  • #2379
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    This is classic victim blaming. It's similar to blaming people getting drunk and walking an unfamiliar route and getting raped #theyshouldhaveknownbetter.... Vile

    No its not victim blaming, people make decisions every day by weighing up the pros/cons and then they are responsible for those decisions.

    It is nothing like the comparison that YOU have made which is quite frankly disgusting and offensive.


  • #2380
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,293 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    froog wrote: »
    less case increase worldwide yesterday (3900) than the previous day (4000).

    That's definitely significant : the alarmists are talking of the virus being already out of control and growing at a phenomenal rate, day after day.


  • #2381
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    SORRY FOR SHOUTING EVERYONE.. BUT I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW... I'd sooner have a vet treat me, than a certain pharmacist, even though he's like the greatest pharmacist ever. He makes 90k a year you know and he's on the frontlines. Except when he's busy on this thread telling us he's on the frontlines but the rest of the time he's on the actual frontlines with the actual sick people. He's changing their lives. He's changing their actual lives on a national level on the frontlines, in his directorate level frontlines role on the frontlines when he's not rolling in all his money and winning awards for being an actually amazing pharmacist on the frontlines. What are the rest of you doing with your lives on a national level?? What am I doing with my life on a national level ?? Am I even on the frontlines? I guess I'm at the back with the vets.


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  • #2382
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    froog wrote: »
    less case increase worldwide yesterday (3900) than the previous day (4000).

    China cases going down, rest of the world going up.


  • #2383
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Scoondal wrote: »
    As a taxi driver in a provincial town, I thought last night would be slow.
    It was the busiest night since Christmas. People here don't care about any virus. The cocaine takes care of that.
    Up to 2.30am, everything fine. After that everyone was off their heads, time wasters and dangerous.
    I finished after 4am with nut cases still trying to flag me down.

    And the hand to nose ratio be fairly high (no pun intended) on coke. Yikes!


  • #2384
    Asterix2018
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 ✭Asterix2018


    Reati wrote: »
    Best we can hope for is that meteor actually hits in April. We'll only have to suffer a few more weeks of this insanity.

    What meteor? I drove earlier cross country in Cork and noticed - hard to miss it! - a full moon. I say this because I gave a lift to a woman stranded because her car had broken down - she told me. Then tells me she's due back in CUH tomorrow morning for an outpatient procedure for cancer.
    I'm a bit rattled.
    I still think some international 'authority', such as the WHO, United Nations, whomever, should address China on this.
    I grew up in the 60's listening to talk of The Yellow Peril. I watched Tittanhuman Square in 1988.
    I lived in the States and saw first hand the stealth of the Chinese.
    Why in God's name are we not demanding the finance for the resources we need from China?


  • #2385
    laurah591
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    froog wrote: »
    less case increase worldwide yesterday (3900) than the previous day (4000).

    I dunno its Sunday - might be a false lul


  • #2386
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    New Home wrote: »
    What would you say of someone who had an inconclusive HIV test and was due to be checked again went out and had unprotected sex while waiting to be retested? And no, I'm not comparing Coronavirus to HIV.

    This isn't what happened with the doctor down in Clare. You make it sound like they made a deliberate choice to endanger the patients they treated.

    Also, I'm still waiting for.the peer reviewed evidence of patient reinfection

    I like to deal in facts.


  • #2387
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,645 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Deleted User wrote: »
    SORRY FOR SHOUTING EVERYONE.. BUT I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW... I'd sooner have a vet treat me, than a certain pharmacist, even though he's like the greatest pharmacist ever. He makes 90k a year you know and he's on the frontlines. Except when he's busy on this thread telling us he's on the frontlines but the rest of the time he's on the actual frontlines with the actual sick people. He's changing their lives. He's changing their actual lives on a national level on the frontlines, in his directorate level frontlines role on the frontlines when he's not rolling in all his money and winning awards for being an actually amazing pharmacist on the frontlines. What are the rest of you doing with your lives on a national level?? What am I doing with my life on a national level ?? Am I even on the frontlines? I guess I'm at the back with the vets.

    I think you have a case of the head staggers, so the vet would be the place to go.


  • #2388
    NegativeCreep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    That really is the least of anyone's worries. If they are elderly or in poor health you should really be more concerned that they be alive.

    Honestly, if I were due to marry in the coming months I would cancel the big wedding and proceed as soon as possible for a registry office wedding with minimum of attendees and then as man and wife put measures in place to protect each other, will, life insurances, health cover etc.

    We’re not having a big thing anyway, less than 100 people but I’m afraid they might cancel all large gatherings. None of the people travelling are old either.


  • #2389
    Glenbhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    kowloon wrote: »
    Just to clarify on cases in China: Are they conducting random tests to try and come up with an infection rate or just testing people reporting symptoms?
    I know here there would be no point to try and get any numbers to crunch because the number of infected would be too low, but in Wuhan?

    WHO report last week said that little to no other infection was detected across the community, they had expected to find widespread markers indicating that infection was more widespread and that accordingly mortality rate lower.


  • #2390
    Blueshoe
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭Blueshoe


    At this stage if Ireland doesn't actually get a meaningful outbreak I think some might feel a little robbed.

    One 3 over the weekend despite some expecting cases to double day on day. I'd say it'll be grand


  • #2391
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    laurah591 wrote: »
    In the same boat, unsure at which point i should be pulling kids from school (helpful position to be on mat leave at present so can). Dont want to be be over reacting but would be worried abt community transmission in the east given that im living in a Dub suburb, further, i believe current caretaker goverment will not make difficult decisions like close schools

    Similar here,I don't want to over react either but I think parents will have to make this decision rather than waiting for government go ahead, surely it would be sensible to keep them out now while numbers are low rather than wait for more people to get sick and then close the schools.


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  • #2392
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    ixoy wrote: »
    Italy have quarantined.. and yet it's Italy where these flights are going out from. So their quarantine still lets people leave to other countries. Italy's quarantine is closer to the joke here.

    I believe the quarantine is to stop the spread to southern Italy primarily. It doesnt even affect foreign citizens if I understand correctly, other Europeans can enter and leave the quarantine zone , though maybe it is more difficult for them now especially to enter


  • #2393
    STB.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    gozunda wrote: »
    Strangely those with symptoms but who have not been in direct cotact with a diagnosed person or who have not been in an infected region are still not been tested according to their own criteria

    Exactly what level of arse and elbow mechanics are involved here?

    The tests are fúcking useless. There is also a huge degree of long finger testing going on, with "voluntary" isolation being "suggested" on a fingers crossed basis.

    Economics have played a large part in hard health decisions not being made.

    Its in the communities now as a result, so contact tracing is meaningless.

    I don't want to be a crank, but we are going down the same road as Italy, and our health system is not capable of coping.
    dxhound2005 wrote: »
    Generally, you need to be 15 minutes or more in the vicinity of an infected person, within 1-2 metres, to be considered at-risk or a close contact.

    One cough. How does that work exactly LOL


  • #2394
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    SORRY FOR SHOUTING EVERYONE.. BUT I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW... I'd sooner have a vet treat me, than a certain pharmacist, even though he's like the greatest pharmacist ever. He makes 90k a year you know and he's on the frontlines. Except when he's busy on this thread telling us he's on the frontlines but the rest of the time he's on the actual frontlines with the actual sick people. He's changing their lives. He's changing their actual lives on a national level on the frontlines, in his directorate level frontlines role on the frontlines when he's not rolling in all his money and winning awards for being an actually amazing pharmacist on the frontlines. What are the rest of you doing with your lives on a national level?? What am I doing with my life on a national level ?? Am I even on the frontlines? I guess I'm at the back with the vets.

    Never said I was the greatest pharmacist ever but pretty much the rest is true. Thanks :)

    Your post made me laugh and took me me down a notch. Fair play.


  • #2395
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,121 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Enclosed gatherings with International visitors should definitely be banned. Can't think of any right now apart from the World Irish Dancing Championship in the Convention Centre from 5- 12th April. Yes you read that correctly.

    Thousands of International visitors and spectators all confined in one space. I dunno.


  • #2396
    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    owlbethere wrote: »
    I would have expected him to be sitting down trying to come up with a government with FF.

    On a Saturday night?


  • #2397
    nocoverart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭nocoverart


    Blueshoe wrote: »
    At this stage if Ireland doesn't actually get a meaningful outbreak I think some might feel a little robbed.

    One 3 over the weekend despite some expecting cases to double day on day. I'd say it'll be grand

    Don’t open a can of worms FFS! nice and peaceful in here at the min.


  • #2398
    New Home
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    This isn't what happened with the doctor down in Clare. You make it sound like they made a deliberate choice to endanger the patients they treated.

    Also, I'm still waiting for.the peer reviewed evidence of.patiemt reinfection

    I like to deal in facts.

    How long does it take for a peer review to be carried out? Couple of months, after the data has been collected? No? Longer? Well, I guess you'll have to wait, meanwhile the data is being collected.

    https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3876197

    I didn't make it sound like they deliberately chose to endanger patients, but you choose to interpret whatever I say whichever way suits you, Dazzler. If you act negligently, though, you're still responsible for your actions. Or are you telling me that that doctor wasn't aware of the risks he was taking? In that case, I wouldn't be wrong in sticking with vets (and BTW, human mammals aren't the only ones who can get arrhythmia).


  • #2399
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,027 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yes. You are lying. There is no peer reviewed evidence of COVID-19 re-infection. You also slurred a doctor's name because they should have known better. The advice wasn't there at the time That is such victim blaming. It's sad to see in this day and age. Thought we had moved past that.

    Come on your a pharmacist, does a drug/medicine need to have went through clinical trials before you'd recommend it.
    I don't know how long you've been following this story but there have been cases of re-infection. We still don't have the full picture about this virus. Peer reviews will come but give it a chance.
    There is a argument to say that testing isn't good enough and the re-infections aren't actually happening as the virus never fully went but the jury is out


  • #2400
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    STB. wrote: »
    Well Ciaran, the 400 figure is the last published and the one in "wide circulation".

    It was put to the know it all who thinks that the testing is some sort of early warning saviour. It does nothing of the sort of course.

    All it does is confirm that you have it. Academic for people who are in a seriously bad way by the time the test is actually carried out (because it most likely would have shown up as negative 4-8 days earlier).

    "The low sensitivity of RT-PCR implies that a large number of COVID-19 patients won't be identified quickly and may not receive appropriate treatment. In addition, given the highly contagious nature of the virus, they carry a risk of infecting a larger population"

    "About 81% of the patients with negative RT-PCR results but positive chest CT scans were re-classified as highly likely or probable cases with COVID-19, by the comprehensive analysis of clinical symptoms, typical CT manifestations and dynamic CT follow-ups,"


    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200226151951.htm

    I was going to bother my hole searching the official number but since you've resorted to low tier insults, I'm not going to waste my time with you any longer beyond this post. If you can't have a respectful discussion in an adult manner, how can it be expected of you to have informed opinions.

    As for the science you are quoting, I'll reiterate from a different comment series, for your due consideration.
    boege wrote: »
    There are multiple sources but the one I read is here. There was a post about a blog by an Italian Doctor earlier today and he indicated that all positive patients presented with severe lung issues.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/02/200226151951.htm
    Miike wrote: »
    Worthy of note in this paper - It's basing its results on the testing accuracy of rRT-PCR in Wuhan; which had terrible logistics and long wait times in getting samples to the lab (due to 'lockdown'), which interferes significantly with accuracy of the results.


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  • #2401
    laurah591
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 326 ✭✭laurah591


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Similar here,I don't want to over react either but I think parents will have to make this decision rather than waiting for government go ahead, surely it would be sensible to keep them out now while numbers are low rather than wait for more people to get sick and then close the schools.

    Exactly, the idea being to slow this thing down - bless kids - but they can be messy and no matter how much hand hygene you instill - it will not be enough (again im talking the lil ones)


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