Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

odyssey06 wrote: »

Not so great from the community transmission aspect though...

Well might help calm a sizeable percentage of the population not to panic, so those really at risk can be catered for , such as to stop panic buying masks/toilet paper/sanitisers and such - and hopefully enable our hospitals and doctors to cope with the large numbers that will need scarce and critical medical care.

leavingirl wrote: »

Mission accomplished. They want you living in fear. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

Who's "they". Posters on this thread? Government/HSE response continues to be "remain calm".

the butcher wrote: »

Agreed with the rest of your post but don't generalise with tagging it as a millennial thing. Back in 2006 the few who were posting up all the warning signs were labelled the same thing, talking down the economy, doom mongers etc etc.

Now we face a new (and worse) crisis and it's the same type of mentality popping up again - it's across all generations, young and old and everything in between.

I don’t think it’s a millennial thing either. My daughters, in their early twenties, aren’t worried at all. I’m trying to drill into them the importance of hand washing and using their hand sanitizer when out and they’ve been laughing at me.
I think the quarantine situation in Italy is making them see the gravity of the situation a bit more, but they have the air of the invincibility of youth all over them.

ixoy wrote: »

Well there could be the fact masks are almost impossible to come by. Even GPs - who need masks - can't source them so your average commuter certainly is unlikely to!

There are gas masks you can buy but not under 100 euros. It's kinda like, can you justify the cost and will you use them....

That said if the cases get to 1k I'm inclined to not go into work because it will be 1,000,000 two weeks later.

Eliana Uptight Caterpillar wrote: »

This is incorrect, was posted days ago when we had fewer cases. If we have 21 confirmed cases, that's 5 per million. There are also 177 medical professionals self-isolating.

21 divided by 4.94(million) = 4.25
Not complicated

some Italian data

https://twitter.com/Dr_FarrisD/status/1236779824296996871

faceman wrote: »

Can you elaborate on this as to why Italy were in the same boat as Ireland? This is being bandied around a lot. Unless there is something specific, can the argument not be made that every EU country is how Italy was a few weeks ago? I don't believe Ireland is unique but also I don't believe Ireland and many other EU countries are on the same path to where Italy is.

Couple that with the believed initial downplaying of the situation in Italy as the government were fearful of borders being closed with Italy and you have a recipe for disaster.

This has been covered extensively in the media.

There is no evidence to suggest that this has happened in Ireland or indeed any other EU country yet.

It has been downplayed here by medical representatives with a clear mantra not to scare people. Lobby groups have been given extensive air time to protect their own interests. Information was controlled from the outset, until journalists took the matter of public interest into their own hands. Even still, information updates and briefings I have viewed have been poor.

Like Italy, ridiculous comparisons with the flu have been "bandied about" to downplay this pandemic with no known viral treatment.

Italy were running the same testing regime, i.e. not testing at all, unless you were displaying respiratory issues and a fever.

Many of those not meeting testing criteria where asked to "voluntarily" isolate. Many didn't for economic reasons or the everyday inconvenience.

It then spread to communities. The ability to carry out contact traceability became academic.

We have had children (and adults) who have returned from Northern Italy in recent weeks who were told by the HSE to return to school, at the same time the NHS (including NI) was telling those who returned from similar trips to self isolate for 14 days, as a precaution. Infact as recent as last week, the HSE and D/Education had issued no advice prohibiting any immediate planned skiing trips by schools.

Many returning may never show symptoms and community spread is/was inevitable.

Then we had a Doctor in the West, who had returned from Italy and was carrying out his everyday doctoring duties in the community, despite showing symptoms. Now himself and his family are among the positive numbers. Contact tracing would have been a nightmare.

There are a large number of front line health workers who have had to "voluntarily" isolate because they have been potentially exposed to the virus (in the hundreds already). One of the latest to be diagnosed down in Bon Secours was sitting in ICU for a period of time before being tested for coronavirus. They have advised staff who have had contact with the patient and who are displaying "symptoms" of coronavirus to self isolate.

The hospitals in Northern Italy who are streets ahead of ours are fire fighting, so much so that surgeons are forced to turn to the media to tell how bad it is in order to get the public's attention.

Our hospitals are not equipped to deal with the increased numbers which are now inevitable, due to the state of the surrent health system, the do nothing approach in testing, the lack of preventative measures to or from badly effected regions, putting in preventive spread measures (at mass gatherings - Paddy's Day) and general playing down of a quite serious and potentially deadly virus by those advising due to economic influences.

There is ample evidence.

Stark wrote: »

Who's "they". Posters on this thread? Government/HSE response continues to be "remain calm".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture_of_fear

Blueshoe wrote: »

Apparently North Korean scientists have developed a vaccine. The formula is available to all countries except the United States to purchase for 1billion USD.

They only figured how to tarmac their roads.

There's a man locally who's mad to have the local parade cancelled because he's really against large crowds.
However he's involved in the organisation of an event in a hotel that would attract a few hundred people and he's mad to sell tickets.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

When did North Tipp enter the game?

Wednesday, wasn't in official figures till Thursday though