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FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    What do we reckon for company? Any predictions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 lawyersuffolk


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    What do we reckon for company? Any predictions?

    Also wondering the same!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 coalition


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    What do we reckon for company? Any predictions?

    For some reason I looked at the 2010 company paper and it was impossible! Hardly any of the usual topics and only ca. 30% of people passed !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 278 ✭✭lawless11


    coalition wrote: »
    For some reason I looked at the 2010 company paper and it was impossible! Hardly any of the usual topics and only ca. 30% of people passed !


    The Companies Act 2014 wasn't even there... Really wouldn't go that far back guys :pac:. 10 years ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭LawBoy2018


    Reya10 wrote: »
    King v Dubrey originally followed Vallee. Then Court of Appeal in King overturned it and said Vallee was wrongly decided. (King v Chiltern Dog rescue is the appeal of King v Dubrey)

    So now it's clear courts must exercise 'considerable caution' in granting DMCs. Vallee was very broad as it upheld DMC that was made 4-5 months before death, and in King v Dubrey it was 4-6 months and the testator had not even been in bad health/dying of anythihg, she was just old.

    Law has now backtracked- It now seems to be very unlikely that courts will uphold DMCs unless contemplated death is imminent (like in other cases before Vallee where DMCs were upheld it had only been days between gift and death) + other requirements as set out in Re Beaumont/Re Wasserberg

    That's the UK position though, are you going to say that it would be persuasive for Irish courts? Or am I missing something?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 coalition


    lawless11 wrote: »
    The Companies Act 2014 wasn't even there... Really wouldn't go that far back guys :pac:. 10 years ago.

    I wish I hadn’t lol

    For company I’m covering:

    Advantages and disadvantages of incorporation
    LTD v DAC
    SLP
    Corporate Authority
    Directors Duties
    Restriction orders (but not disqualification 🀦*♂️)
    Leg. Control of transactions between companies and directors - s. 537, s. 538
    Transfer of shares
    Shareholder protection - s. 212
    Borrowing - floating charges, fixed charges over book debts, ROT clauses (registration of charges is confusing me)
    Directors personally liable - s. 610, s. 609
    Receivership
    Realisation of Corporate Assets - s. 604, s. 608, s. 602

    Might still cover:
    Liquidation

    Leaving out:
    Ultra vires
    S. 158 question
    Meetings
    Capital maintenance
    Shares
    Examinership

    What do people think?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 PerryMason2020


    LawBoy2018 wrote: »
    That's the UK position though, are you going to say that it would be persuasive for Irish courts? Or am I missing something?


    They're worth knowing - she mentions them in one of the examiner reports. Irish courts would look to other jurisdictions for guidance if there is no case law in this jurisdiction on a particular issue before the courts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Reya10


    LawBoy2018 wrote: »
    That's the UK position though, are you going to say that it would be persuasive for Irish courts? Or am I missing something?

    Yeah basically, as there's not much Irish case law on DMC I would use these


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 greenery2


    CONTRACT - corporate borrowing - Struggling to understand the Unitherm decision... I understand Carroll but unitherm has very much confused me re the mixed funds of original price & mark up? Which in turn has confused me re aggregation clauses and all sums due clauses.... any help at all would be amazing please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 mcgreee


    Anyone have a quick run down of trusts for recreational activities in Charitable trusts?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 coalition


    greenery2 wrote: »
    Struggling to understand the Unitherm decision... I understand Carroll but unitherm has very much confused me re the mixed funds of original price & mark up? Which in turn has confused me re aggregation clauses and all sums due clauses.... any help at all would be amazing please


    Not for contract but in a company law context I have:

    For Unitherm I just have that the standard Proceeds of Sale clause will not establish a fiduciary relationship between the seller and the purchaser so there is no equitable right to trace the proceeds. The standard POS clause states that the purchaser can resell the goods in the course of its own business and doesn’t say there is a relationship of principal-agent. The clause would have to state that a fiduciary relationship exists and greats a charge over the proceeds and that charge must be registered in order to be enforceable.

    The COA overruled the HC (HC had found relationship of agent principal due to the contractual provision and how the parties had conducted their business)

    Not sure if this helps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭rightytighty


    Are people covering disqualification as well as restriction?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Law1997


    Panicking a bit about property now. I covered

    About property/ above and below/treasure trove
    Registration - doctrine of notice etc
    Succession
    Co ownership
    Adverse p
    Licenses
    Easements
    Landlord & Tenant Law
    Family property

    Is this definitely enough? I didn’t cover any of those early chapters because saw they never really come up but am concerned now.
    Any advice much appreciated!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭CiaranS93


    Law1997 wrote: »
    Panicking a bit about property now. I covered

    About property/ above and below/treasure trove
    Registration - doctrine of notice etc
    Succession
    Co ownership
    Adverse p
    Licenses
    Easements
    Landlord & Tenant Law
    Family property

    Is this definitely enough? I didn’t cover any of those early chapters because saw they never really come up but am concerned now.
    Any advice much appreciated!

    I covered 5 topics for property in the last sitting:

    AP
    Co ownership
    Succession
    Easements
    Finding

    Finding didn't even come up but could answer five as two Q's on succession.

    You should be covered with what you have. Examiner Is pretty handy marker too I wouldn't worry too much about property.

    Edit: There's bigger less predictable subjects you should worry about haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Flicked over my equity notes there and knew absolutely nothing!!

    Going to take that as a sign that my brain is fried and needs sleep and hope that it comes back to me in a few hours...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭CiaranS93


    Flicked over my equity notes there and knew absolutely nothing!!

    Going to take that as a sign that my brain is fried and needs sleep and hope that it comes back to me in a few hours...

    You aren't the only one. Here's to hoping it all comes flooding in once we open that exam paper


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 coalition


    Are people covering disqualification as well as restriction?

    I’m not! Do you know the last time in came up and in what context?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    CiaranS93 wrote: »
    You aren't the only one. Here's to hoping it all comes flooding in once we open that exam paper

    Yep, I figure a half decent nights sleep won’t hurt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 lawyersuffolk


    coalition wrote: »
    I’m not! Do you know the last time in came up and in what context?

    Think it came up on last paper so wasn’t going to cover it at all


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24 coalition


    Think it came up on last paper so wasn’t going to cover it at all

    On the last company paper question 3 was just on restrictions under s. 819


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭nimcdona


    For the La Moselle principles in restriction proceedings re the first test and Re Tralee Beef and Lamb and Mitek Holdings etc is anyone able to explain the decision with regards to whether the test was amplified with common law principles too? My notes aren't really clear what the end result was, thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13 Murphs122


    Are you able to drop in Legislation the morning of in Cork?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭JCormac


    TORT - Negligent Misstatement

    Am I right in thinking that the chapter on Pure Economic Loss isn't essential to learn if you're planning on doing a question on Negligent Misstatement?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 Legaleagle37


    How did equity go? What came up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭CiaranS93


    How did equity go? What came up!

    Estoppel/unconscionable
    UI with focus on independent legal advice in Ireland and compare to other jurisdictions
    Mareva or Antoin Piller
    Charitable - problem
    Trustees duties - problem
    Secret/resulting - problem
    Notes - unincorporated associations, purpose trust for non charitable purpose and can't remember the other one
    Constructive trust


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Jenosul


    If I spoke about proprietary estoppel have I failed the question can someone please tell me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 106 ✭✭CiaranS93


    Jenosul wrote: »
    If I spoke about proprietary estoppel have I failed the question can someone please tell me?

    She's a pretty tough marker.. wouldn't worry too much just focus on the next one there's nothing you can do now and no point in worrying about something you can't change


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Jenosul wrote: »
    If I spoke about proprietary estoppel have I failed the question can someone please tell me?

    For Q8? That question was about proprietary estoppel though, no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 169 ✭✭EmmaO94


    Equity

    Answer me honestly....

    3 really solid answers, but could only answer one element of the note q, and was very iffy about the second half of q4 (wrote plenty on half secret trusts but the second half of question was out of my reach)

    Would this be enough to scrape a pass?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47 LawStudent1234


    For Q8? That question was about proprietary estoppel though, no?

    The Taylors Fashion case is on proprietary estoppel so you’re right


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