Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP

4068ac1elhodqr · 08-03-2020 08:15PM

Phibsboro wrote: »

That is a very optimisitc hope, a peak in 2 weeks time would have total cases of only 200. That seems unlikely at this stage.A peak in 5/6 weeks seems more likely, without a dramatic level of Gov intervention into day to day life.

Neither 2wks (laughable), nor 5/6 wks.

The likely peak is 12wks (3 mths). That's figure isn't based on 'optimistic hope' or a hunch, but the view from the Dr chap that helped discover ye olde Ebola.

The peak will follow a typical bell curve, so wk 13 won't be all grand, it'll be same as wk 11 and so on. There is also a chance of re-emergence in November for the N.Hemisphere.

tillyfilly · 08-03-2020 08:15PM

Italian outbreak came from a German manufacturer

Naggdefy · 08-03-2020 08:15PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

What do people mean by a peak?

Oh lord. There are questions and there are questions.

When max infection/ deaths hit a country and begin to decline.

Are you for real?

is_that_so · 08-03-2020 08:15PM

Skybirdjb wrote: »

On the cork cases , they are not saying where these people are from . The first guy who is in cuh I think it’s strange the day after this that Youghal Midleton and Cobh cancel the Patrick’s day parade ? Wonder if that means he’s from east cork ? Wish they would say where so that us people who have heath issues and bad immunity can stay away !!!

Patient confidentiality. The point was made by Holohan quite early on that some communities are so small they could quite easily identify who it is.

Skybirdjb · 08-03-2020 08:15PM

irishgeo wrote: »

He cant infect you if he is in CUH?

Before he went there ???? He was around for a week before he went to a&e and there is another one in bon securs hospital today

amadangomor · 08-03-2020 08:15PM

Water John wrote: »

Corona virus doesn't mutate as much as other flu viruses. Hopefully that will make it easier to make a vaccine.

It's not a flu virus!!

Scoondal · 08-03-2020 08:15PM

Hong Kong has 53 active cases of the virus.
Philippines has 3 active cases.
I am giving these facts so that we can follow the measures that these countries have taken.

Gynoid · 08-03-2020 08:16PM

RandomName2 wrote: »

I've always thought a 'sort by thanks' option would be good.

It would honestly be terrible in this case.

lainey_d_123 · 08-03-2020 08:16PM

Scoondal wrote: »

Hong Kong has 53 active cases of the virus.
Philippines has 3 active cases.
I am giving these facts so that we can follow the measures that these countries have taken.

Do you really believe some of these places are giving accurate figures? Are you saying you trust the current Filipino government?

Ellsbells1 · 08-03-2020 08:17PM

What is worrying or maybe not, is the amount of cases people are talking about on here but aren’t being confirmed in the national figures. I don’t know what to think anymore.

bodhrandude · 08-03-2020 08:17PM

US2 wrote: »

Any idea why they've no problem naming cork hospitals but everywhere else is "East/West of the country" ?

Probably because its community spread but do they think that cant happen in the east or west ?

It was the Examiner and the Cork Echo that broke the story, not the HSE or RTE.

citysights · 08-03-2020 08:17PM

US2 wrote: »

Any idea why they've no problem naming cork hospitals but everywhere else is "East/West of the country" ?

Probably because its community spread but do they think that cant happen in the east or west ?

You know I was wondering exact same thing this evening listening to news cork hospital and all named Rest of country just the East.Strange, maybe you’re right it’s because of community spread but then they havent said that about new Cork spread today have they. Very confusing. I give up..

amadangomor · 08-03-2020 08:18PM

froog wrote: »

nice article comparing italy and hong kongs strategy. illustrates the delicate balance between economy and containment.

https://afludiary.blogspot.com/2020/03/a-tale-of-two-outbreaks-hong-kong-italy.html

"In Hong Kong, they assumed the disease was already in the community, and they not only continued to work to prevent further entry, they put very tough measures in place to prevent its spread.

Italy, on the other hand, has been mostly reactive. Waiting for community spread to become obvious, and then dealing with each outbreak as if it were a limited event, rather than a systemic problem. "

As many on here said going down the reactive route is not the right one.

08-03-2020 08:19PM

Bob24 wrote: »

Yes - although Italy probably should be excluded from the above reasoning from now on as their healthcare system is now clearly not fully coping anymore.

If though, as rumoured (if they are not doing it already) Italy are triaging those presenting with the illness, ie those with mild symptoms are told to go away and are not tested, and only the more serious are, then the mortality rate in Italy can't be trusted as a true figure?

08-03-2020 08:19PM

tina1040 wrote: »

Is there a phone number to call if someone in the house has sore throat, cough, high temperature? I can't find a number on hse.ie. gp closed and message not helpful.

Simdruid wrote: »

https://www.hse.ie/eng/hselive/

They have a callsave number, another number and live webchat etc there too. Hope they are better soon.

Or contact your GP, or out-of-hours GP, service?

Skyfloater · 08-03-2020 08:19PM

Scoondal wrote: »

Hong Kong has 53 active cases of the virus.
Philippines has 3 active cases.
I am giving these facts so that we can follow the measures that these countries have taken.

Would you care to summarize?

Pretzill · 08-03-2020 08:20PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHs9VBShzbA

This guy knows his stuff, it's a few days old (as are the stats) but it might put things into perspective.

Apologies if he's already been linked.

08-03-2020 08:20PM

US2 wrote: »

I never said the hospital was withholding figures did I? I also said I dont believe that there is a cover up or anything sinister from the HSE, simply that there is a delay of a few days between positive result and press release.

There isn't a delay of days. This is a serious accusation you have made. I'm in a position if verified to bring this to the attention of senior health care officials. I more than happy to provide my credentials to beasty. If these cases in Drogheda are true, it means that the HSE are under-reporting which to my knowledge they have not been but if true, I'd happily report on behalf of somebody (if there was proof).

US2 · 08-03-2020 08:20PM

bodhrandude wrote: »

It was the Examiner and the Cork Echo that broke the story, not the HSE or RTE.

The hospitals named on the rte news reporting the 2 new cases today. Any idea why Limerick hospital wasnt named, especially as one of the infected person worked in the a&e department?

Water John · 08-03-2020 08:21PM

The HSE figures are updated as those tested 24 hours previously.

DrumSteve · 08-03-2020 08:21PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If though, as rumoured (if they are not doing it already) Italy are triaging those presenting with the illness, ie those with mild symptoms are told to go away and are not tested, and only the more serious are, then the mortality rate in Italy can't be trusted as a true figure?

In that case, would it be true to say the IFR is low (.1%) but the CFR is higher (4%).

Honestly, the fact they are triaging people who might otherwise live is breaking my heart here.

owlbethere · 08-03-2020 08:21PM

I ordered a oxygen/heartrate finger reader from Amazon. It might be a useful idea for others. To check on oxygen in the blood. If you need to relay it to your GP over the phone.

TommyKnocker · 08-03-2020 08:21PM

US2 wrote: »

Any idea why they've no problem naming cork hospitals but everywhere else is "East/West of the country" ?

Probably because its community spread but do they think that cant happen in the east or west ?

If I am not mistaken the Cork hospitals pretty much named themselves. Both appear to have issued statements of their own. CUH advising of the 60 staff being asked to self isolate and Bon Secour issuing a statement advising that they has a patient with the virus.

CinemaGuy45 · 08-03-2020 08:21PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

What do people mean by a peak?

Naggdefy wrote: »

Oh lord. There are questions and there are questions.

When max infection/ deaths hit a country and begin to decline.

Are you for real?

Username right on the money anyway.

dxhound2005 · 08-03-2020 08:22PM

Ellsbells1 wrote: »

What is worrying or maybe not, is the amount of cases people are talking about on here but aren’t being confirmed in the national figures. I don’t know what to think anymore.

They must be working in the health service to have that advance information. Or people in the health service are passing on the information to them. At this time on a Sunday I would wait to see what comes out during the week, and try not to worry.

Gods Gift · 08-03-2020 08:22PM

GOVERNMENT AND HSE NEED TO WAKE UP, AND REALISE WE ARE IN A STATE OF CRISIS,

AND CANCEL DANCING WITH THE STARS

FFS.

cloudatlas · 08-03-2020 08:22PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

A consistent 10% of all cases in Italy requiring ICU for the last 3 weeks is pretty horrific. No wonder the heath system can't cope.

Yeah and what a way to die without relatives to try and give some comfort. Folks need to stop the ****ed up ‘im alright jack’ type comments because they know they aren’t in the most vulnerable group.

saabsaab · 08-03-2020 08:22PM

Ellsbells1 wrote: »

What is worrying or maybe not, is the amount of cases people are talking about on here but aren’t being confirmed in the national figures. I don’t know what to think anymore.

Perhaps to have a case confirmed it must be tested twice and signed off at a higher level?

kenmc · 08-03-2020 08:23PM

Midfield Major wrote: »

You can rest easy. This is a storm in a teacup. As you see in Eire only 2 cases today. It’s already peaked.

Poxy coronavirus can't live with our mouldy weather. Ha! Great little country this. Another soft landing

odyssey06 · 08-03-2020 08:23PM

Deleted User wrote: »

If though, as rumoured (if they are not doing it already) Italy are triaging those presenting with the illness, ie those with mild symptoms are told to go away and are not tested, and only the more serious are, then the mortality rate in Italy can't be trusted as a true figure?

Possibly... at this stage we should probably be looking at absolute numbers of hospital admissions \ ICU admissions \ deaths relative to the size of the outbreak area.

Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) *Read warnings in OP*

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Coronavirus Part V - 34 cases in ROI, 16 in NI (as of 10 March) Read warnings in OP