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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73 ✭✭Reya10


    Equity

    Is DMC valid in cases of suicide?

    Case law seems to say no but it all predates legalisation of suicide?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Reya10 wrote: »
    Equity

    Is DMC valid in cases of suicide?

    Case law seems to say no but it all predates legalisation of suicide?

    Yes case law says no but you could mention in an answer that as the legality of suicide has changed this might lead the court to decide differently if a case was brought to them today


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53 ✭✭law_struggles


    Property

    In relation to s.111 if the testator has just a spouse, the spouse has a right to half. But in a problem Q if you were to say how much they would get, would you say they get all of it? i.e. what happens with the other half?

    If the testator has a child also, s.111 states the spouse gets one third. What happens with the other two-thirds? I'm presuming the spouse gets more than the child?

    Thanks :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 75 ✭✭supercreative


    Property

    In relation to s.111 if the testator has just a spouse, the spouse has a right to half. But in a problem Q if you were to say how much they would get, would you say they get all of it? i.e. what happens with the other half?

    If the testator has a child also, s.111 states the spouse gets one third. What happens with the other two-thirds? I'm presuming the spouse gets more than the child?

    Thanks :)

    Did property in October so happy to be corrected on this, but section 111 is basically in substitution of what you got in the will. So if X's estate is worth €100,000 but he only gives €30,000 of it to his wife Y, she would be entitled to €50,000 instead to meet her legal right share under section 111. In relation to what happens with the rest of it, it just gets distributed as the will says it should.

    I think you're confusing it with intestacy, where there is no actual direction by the testator as to where the money should go. If X was intestate, his entire estate of €100,000 would go to his wife Y, unless they had a child (Z), in which case €66,666 would go to Y and €33,333 to Z.

    The difference is there because with the legal right share there's actually a will already in place so that's where you look to see where the rest of the money goes. With intestacy this isn't the case and so all the money needs to be taken by the spouse (unless they have a child).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 354 ✭✭Wonderstruck


    Yes case law says no but you could mention in an answer that as the legality of suicide has changed this might lead the court to decide differently if a case was brought to them today
    Yes case law says no but you could mention in an answer that as the legality of suicide has changed this might lead the court to decide differently if a case was brought to them today

    I disagree with the case law, it's all frankly ancient and the courts would most likely take the view that clinical depression / bipolar etc = is a "sickness" for the purposes of DMC and that someone dying by suicide would fit the rules (considering many people with serious mental health conditions do end up dying by suicide - no doubt it would be weighing on the mind of the person giving the gift). I won't even get into Assisted Suicide cos then you're getting into very complicated stuff :pac:

    If a person seemed to randomly commit suicide or put themselves in extremely risky life and death situation (in an oil field or something) then died, without any known mental health issues or proof they had none, then perhaps one could say they were not "dying" at the time. My two cents.


    :D

    What's everyone's predictions for Company? I think he'll put Examinership on again, poor examinership, no love from companies IRL or on the exam. Maybe that is wishful thinking because I like it in general. Definitely Receivership / Liquidatation. I read the posts of the March 2019 paper..... :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 User8011


    Does anyone have notes on SAP/LTD v DAC/ Corporate authority they they would be willing to share?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    Specific performance due a run in equity? Wasn't on last sitting I don't believe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    Specific performance due a run in equity? Wasn't on last sitting I don't believe?

    Specific performance on contracts of service was on I believe.. Have a vague memory of doing it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Hamerzan Sickles


    Companies Act - Main Changes
    LTD v DAC
    Summary Approval Procedure
    Corporate Authority
    SLP
    Directors
    Restrictions
    Shareholders Rights
    Minority Protection
    Share Transfer
    Borrowing
    Receivership
    Realisation of Assets
    Winding up

    Your advice got me through Constitutional I think -- might have scraped a borderline pass!! Tricky enough paper. I got lucky with the case note as well.

    I'm studying pretty much the exact same as you but I have nothing on LTD v DAC, any chance you could send me your notes on it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Your advice got me through Constitutional I think -- might have scraped a borderline pass!! Tricky enough paper. I got lucky with the case note as well.

    I'm studying pretty much the exact same as you but I have nothing on LTD v DAC, any chance you could send me your notes on it?

    Nice one, hope it works out for you. Yeah we got Shatter v Guerin, Oireachtas and Family which was nice. I knew non-delegation fairly well and then managed a half decent answer on admin of justice in public. Very tricky paper though!

    Yeah PM me your email


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 84 ✭✭Dliodoir2021


    Lost my exam confirmation letter and wondering what the story is on leaving legislation into Blackhall in advance? I'm sitting my exams there! Could you leave it in the evening before (as opposed to the Red Cow time of 1.30ish) and would it be on the desk before the exam? Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Hamerzan Sickles


    Nice one, hope it works out for you. Yeah we got Shatter v Guerin, Oireachtas and Family which was nice. I knew non-delegation fairly well and then managed a half decent answer on admin of justice in public. Very tricky paper though!

    Yeah PM me your email

    Yeah exactly, the Oireachtas question was key! Sort of hoping the bell curve leans in our favour haha.

    Thanks, will do!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7 DRMC


    Hi There,

    I have my notes written and partially learned off for property, however, I am finding it difficult in the succession pq’s when the exam continuously refers to ‘students not applying law to the facts. Would anyone have sample PQ’s completed so I could see how you do them as I am quite scared I’m doing it wrong.

    Thanks so much.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭CMUL


    For constitution yesterday I answered the family question based on equality it was the same facts as the Somjee v Min for Justice case. Did anyone else take that stance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    The manual I used for Equity is from 2016.

    Is there any really important recent cases I am missing?

    Just copping that this might be a problem...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ahhhhhFE1s


    Property

    Any hint/tips on areas to focus on within Landlord and Tenant Law?? Such a big topic ahhh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Louis Litt


    Resulting Trusts is the size of 3 topics on its own!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Louis Litt wrote: »
    Resulting Trusts is the size of 3 topics on its own!!

    I'm taking a gamble and going to just do Advancement for RT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Louis Litt


    I'm taking a gamble and going to just do Advancement for RT

    Im gambling with Injunctions and just going Mareva so trying to balance the gamble!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 191 ✭✭Jeremiah25


    I'm taking a gamble and going to just do Advancement for RT

    Are we covering tracing or prop estoppel?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Hamerzan Sickles


    CMUL wrote: »
    For constitution yesterday I answered the family question based on equality it was the same facts as the Somjee v Min for Justice case. Did anyone else take that stance?

    Yeah, but I also talked about reasons (fair procedures), equality (just general equality rights) and family rights generally. I even considered bringing covid-19 into it and discussing the concept of deporting someone if it meant their life would be endangered but ran out of time. That one would have been a stretch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 147 ✭✭Hamerzan Sickles


    The manual I used for Equity is from 2016.

    Is there any really important recent cases I am missing?

    Just copping that this might be a problem...

    I sat it in October, I can't think of any particularly recent cases. Estoppel has a few cases from 2017 or 2018 if I remember correctly. But I don't think it would make or break an answer for any topic to be honest, none of them reinvent the law.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Jeremiah25 wrote: »
    Are we covering tracing or prop estoppel?

    Yeah, I fancy prop to come up and tracing is grand cos it's short. Only thing I am cutting is Purpose Trusts and Resulting except Advancement (I know Charitable is almost guaranteed but I hate studying it and I figure if I cover everything else I'm good).
    I sat it in October, I can't think of any particularly recent cases. Estoppel has a few cases from 2017 or 2018 if I remember correctly. But I don't think it would make or break an answer for any topic to be honest, none of them reinvent the law.

    That's grand, as long as there is nothing that introduced some big change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭20082014


    TORT

    Whats peoples opinion on covering the below for the exam?

    Defamation
    Res Ipsa Loquiter
    Animal and Fire

    I am unsure whether to cover them or not. I haven't even looked at them so it would be learning from scratch and unsure if they are even likely to come up! Trying not to waste my time covering unnecessary topics (if thats even a thing!!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭godfather2


    20082014 wrote: »
    TORT

    Whats peoples opinion on covering the below for the exam?

    Defamation
    Res Ipsa Loquiter
    Animal and Fire

    I am unsure whether to cover them or not. I haven't even looked at them so it would be learning from scratch and unsure if they are even likely to come up! Trying not to waste my time covering unnecessary topics (if thats even a thing!!)

    I would cover defamation. In fact, cover as much as you. Was bitten badly last Oct as didn't cover enough. You have loads if time left to cover them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    I'm covering defamation myself. My manual doesn't have a chapter called Res Ipsa Loquiter and I don't even know what that is so guess i'm not doing that haha. I've cut animal and fire because its small and I'm cutting very little else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16 Lawofattracti


    The manual I used for Equity is from 2016.

    Is there any really important recent cases I am missing?

    Just copping that this might be a problem...

    I sat in last time and not much stands out in my head other than I heard there has been some change to the Campus Oil test which my be worth checking out!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31 isawitfirst


    Definitely look up the merck sharpe and dohme v clonmel healthcare case from last year, changed campus oil!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,891 ✭✭✭iamanengine


    Link to info on the Merck Sharpe and Dohme case - https://www.williamfry.com/newsandinsights/news-article/2019/07/31/supreme-court-rules-on-preliminary-injunction-test

    Adequacy of damages is to be considered as part of the balance of convenience

    "Now, the Supreme Court has ruled that "the preferable approach is to consider the adequacy of damages as part of the balance of convenience" assessment rather than a hurdle prior to that assessment. The adequacy of damages will continue to be "the most important component" of the balancing exercise. However, availability of damages will not be decisive, particularly where difficulty in calculation makes it likely that any damages awarded will not be a precise and perfect remedy."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 30 lawstudentirl


    Reya10 wrote: »
    Equity

    Is DMC valid in cases of suicide?

    Case law seems to say no but it all predates legalisation of suicide?

    In the Irish case of Mills v. Shields and Kelly (1948) the DMC was valid even though the guy committed suicide.

    However, he was seriously ill so the court said it was like the case where a guy thought he’d die from cancer but actually died from pneumonia.

    I don’t know what the situation is if the contemplation of death itself relates to suicide.


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