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Blank and Double Gameweek discussion 2019/2020

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Benimar wrote: »
    I can't shake the feeling that a FH in GW37 could be gold. It will probably (certainly?) be the biggest DGW in terms of teams, and the chance to pick 11 DGWers who have something to play for looks too good an opportunity to overlook.

    You also get back your initial squad for gw 38 and will have it for gw 36 which may include a liverpool mid, trent and others that you will want who wont have a double.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    You also get back your initial squad for gw 38 and will have it for gw 36 which may include a liverpool mid, trent and others that you will want who wont have a double.

    Quite possibly, but Liverpool are home to Chelsea, may (better!) have the league wrapped up and Chelsea could have something to play for so there may be better options. It leaves everything on the table to have players who have meaningful matches.

    EDIT: Think I misread you. Yes its a good thing to have Liverpool for 36 and 38, which those who WC in 36/37 may not have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    Benimar wrote: »
    Quite possibly, but Liverpool are home to Chelsea, may (better!) have the league wrapped up and Chelsea could have something to play for so there may be better options. It leaves everything on the table to have players who have meaningful matches.

    EDIT: Think I misread you. Yes its a good thing to have Liverpool for 36 and 38, which those who WC in 36/37 may not have.

    Yes thats what I was saying those wildcarding in 36 and BB in 37 will limit themselves to 10 teams including going without players that will be good options in 36 and 38.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    skippy15 wrote: »
    Happy now with my plan for the season:
    GW 29 TC chip Auba
    GW 31 have 7/8 players through transfers- 3 pool, 3 wolves plus 1/2
    GW 32 Wild Card:
    GW 34 DGW BB with players set up from wildcard- while keeping good single players
    GW 37: FH with big DGW getting in luxury players and teams

    Leaves me well set up for season, or am I missing anything?

    That would be the out of the box tried and tested plan for dealing with them. Others have had success shaking it up in the past.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    Decision time on finishing strategy is here! :eek:

    It comes down to Wolves v Arsenal for me. I've none of either.
    Getting Jota and Doherty (losing Vardy) or Jota Saiss (losing Ings) for a hit gives me 7 good starters for BGW31 and saves the FH chip and WC.

    Going without Auba for his next four games is the scary part.

    I'm sort of planning to delay WC or WC into a DGW itself if I use BB before then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    ElTel wrote: »
    Decision time on finishing strategy is here! :eek:

    It comes down to Wolves v Arsenal for me. I've none of either.
    Getting Jota and Doherty (losing Vardy) or Jota Saiss (losing Ings) for a hit gives me 7 good starters for BGW31 and saves the FH chip and WC.

    Going without Auba for his next four games is the scary part.

    I'm sort of planning to delay WC or WC into a DGW itself if I use BB before then.

    Can you afford Saïss and Auba by selling Vardy? I know that leaves you with only 6 for BGW31, but I think Auba will be highly captained this week.

    I said all week I wouldn’t bring him in, but leaning strongly towards taking a hit to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,947 ✭✭✭shmeee


    skippy15 wrote: »
    Happy now with my plan for the season:
    GW 29 TC chip Auba
    GW 31 have 7/8 players through transfers- 3 pool, 3 wolves plus 1/2
    GW 32 Wild Card:
    GW 34 DGW BB with players set up from wildcard- while keeping good single players
    GW 37: FH with big DGW getting in luxury players and teams

    Leaves me well set up for season, or am I missing anything?

    GW34 may only be a tiny double, might not even have any doubles!

    I wouldn't be too depending on it being a major double this season, a few factors; TV Schedule (games already set for TV) and games staying in the GW34 which are postponed at the weekend of GW34 and will be played later on in GW34 (mid week games up to Thursday night). Might have only a tiny few teams doubling; Everton, Sheff Utd and Norwich at a look.

    GW 37 could have up to 12 teams with a double, huge! BGW31 and GW34 games could all end up here. So BB has to be the way. So WC in 36.....


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    Benimar wrote: »
    Can you afford Saïss and Auba by selling Vardy? I know that leaves you with only 6 for BGW31, but I think Auba will be highly captained this week.

    I said all week I wouldn’t bring him in, but leaning strongly towards taking a hit to do it.

    Can't do that.
    We cant have em all!!
    All you Jimenez/jota owners already are on easy street. :pac:

    Auba sends me into WC thinking and I'm hoping to get the better of it from GW33 on.

    Auba for a hit looks good if it adds a GW31 player.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    I'm thinking of FH'ing in GW31, as I'll only have 5 players, incl. Tanganga. My WC will essentially be a free hit for the first DGW, and the second DGW I can build up transfers to it. I also have BB and need to make up 70pts + on main rival! Any advice?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,288 ✭✭✭✭gammygils


    Might have to FH in 31. Only have 7 players & 1 of them is Snodgrass


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    gammygils wrote: »
    Might have to FH in 31. Only have 7 players & 1 of them is Snodgrass

    2 ft
    Maybe a hit
    That will be plenty
    I’ve 3 wolves 3 pool 2 Burnley and potentially 3 transfers to use
    I don’t see myself using more than 2 for 31
    Would rather carry an extra one out of it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    km79 wrote: »
    2 ft
    Maybe a hit
    That will be plenty
    I’ve 3 wolves 3 pool 2 Burnley and potentially 3 transfers to use
    I don’t see myself using more than 2 for 31
    Would rather carry an extra one out of it

    Same, I'll have 9 max. There isn't even 11 players I'd want that week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,036 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Having a quick look around my leagues and many seem to be in the boat of having only 5/6/7 players for that week at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,520 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I'm going to end up with that many anyway. No interest in FH. We've seen what Watford and Wolves can end up doing this week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,399 ✭✭✭✭ThunbergsAreGo


    dsmythy wrote: »
    I'm going to end up with that many anyway. No interest in FH. We've seen what Watford and Wolves can end up doing this week.

    Yeah leaning that way at the moment. It's just that nagging feeling the Gomez and Traore are the wrong Wolves/pool players that has me contemplating.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,427 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    What would a FH31 team look like ya reckon?

    Salah/Mane/TAA are no brainers really. After that the only defences I'd rely on is Wolves. So double Wolves defence? And then look for attacking threat from defenders?

    Pope
    TAA Doherty PVA (Aurier, Ngakia)
    Salah Mane Alli Sarr Antonio
    Jimenez Jota Cilson

    Any other options I'm forgetting? You need to bench one of those then. How many do you currently have, and how much do you think the difference is going to bridge? A FH team in a DGW has the potential for a double average score (average is what, 40?)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,173 ✭✭✭Dearg81


    Shedite27 wrote: »
    What would a FH31 team look like ya reckon?

    Salah/Mane/TAA are no brainers really. After that the only defences I'd rely on is Wolves. So double Wolves defence? And then look for attacking threat from defenders?

    Pope
    TAA Doherty PVA (Aurier, Ngakia)
    Salah Mane Alli Sarr Antonio
    Jimenez Jota Cilson

    Any other options I'm forgetting? You need to bench one of those then. How many do you currently have, and how much do you think the difference is going to bridge? A FH team in a DGW has the potential for a double average score (average is what, 40?)
    That looks about right but I'd have Wood upfront instead of Wilson though. I can field 11 of them for a - 4 but not sure it's worth a hit.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭shineon23


    Had a think about this today, putting it here as note to self

    Current team
    McCarthy-Mcgovern

    TAA-VVD-Soyunchu-Egan-Rico

    Salah-KDB-Barnes-Saka-Martial

    Auba-Ings-Jiminez


    Going to try hold my free hit.
    And in lead up to GW 31 move

    Auba out for Jota or Wood (free transfer)
    Rico out for Doherty (-4)

    Pope out for McGovern (free transfer)
    One of Saka/Martial/Barnes out for Alli (maybe) (-4)

    To give me the following in GW31

    Pope

    TAA-Doherty-VVD

    Salah-Alli

    Jota (or Wood)-Jiminez

    This give me 8 starters for -8 points between now and GW31.

    Then navigate the potential doubles with FH, WC and BB intact.

    Not sold on Alli, especially with possible ban/FA action incoming, but he'd be a differential in my private league


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    km79 wrote: »
    2 ft
    Maybe a hit
    That will be plenty
    I’ve 3 wolves 3 pool 2 Burnley and potentially 3 transfers to use
    I don’t see myself using more than 2 for 31
    Would rather carry an extra one out of it

    Maybe Giroud
    (Note to self :D )


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,651 ✭✭✭greedygoblin


    km79 wrote: »
    Maybe Giroud
    (Note to self :D )

    He has a blank in 31.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    He has a blank in 31.

    I don’t know what’s wrong with me this weather :D

    It’s prob for the best


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,398 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    Have 3 x Liverpool, 3 x Wolves, 1 x West Ham + 2 x transfers in next 2 weeks to bring in Pope + A.N. Other.

    WC in 32 to set team up for remainder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭SkySter


    Some people seem to be holding onto their freehit and not planning on using it in GW31. I have both FH and WC left. As it stands I've only 6 players playing in GW31 so I'd have to take a lot of hits to get 11 out. Any reason why I shouldn't use FH in GW31? Feel like I'm missing something..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,127 ✭✭✭The real mccoy 91


    SkySter wrote: »
    Some people seem to be holding onto their freehit and not planning on using it in GW31. I have both FH and WC left. As it stands I've only 6 players playing in GW31 so I'd have to take a lot of hits to get 11 out. Any reason why I shouldn't use FH in GW31? Feel like I'm missing something..

    You have 6 presumably 3x liverpool 2× wolves and one other? Who would you get on your free hit you probably have the bulk of your free hit team already would it be worth using the free hit to bring in 4/5 that are more likely for 2 pointers because the other fixtures don't scream points. Not to me anyway


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    SkySter wrote: »
    Some people seem to be holding onto their freehit and not planning on using it in GW31. I have both FH and WC left. As it stands I've only 6 players playing in GW31 so I'd have to take a lot of hits to get 11 out. Any reason why I shouldn't use FH in GW31? Feel like I'm missing something..

    Who are your 6? If you have the optimal 6 (TAA, Mane, Salah, Jota, Jimi, Doherty) or something similar then the argument against not FHing in 31 is that you can get to 8 (or even 9 with a 4 point hit) - for arguments sake, let's add FTs of Alli and Pope to your ideal 6 above.

    The argument goes that you would then be FHing for just an additional 3 players - let's say for arguments sake your FH team is the 8 mentioned above plus the 3 of Aurier, Wood and Sarr).

    So how many points would you expect from Aurier, Wood and Sarr? Probably 10-12 is a realistic average projection (i.e. a return from one and a blank from two others).

    An extra 10 points doesn't seem worth it for a FH. This argument makes sense.

    However, where the argument falls down is that you likely don't have the ideal 6 I mentioned. Additionally 34 isn't looking very attractive from what I can tell.

    I still haven't 100% made up my mind - I also have 6 (TAA, Robbo, Salah, Boly, Dendonker, Jimi).

    My team next week looks alright so I could bank and get to 8.

    But for me (and you're probably similar) it's not just what "the extra 3" can get me, it's also how I can improve my current 6:

    - How many more points can Mane get instead of Robbo?
    - Likewise Jota/Doherty instead of Dendonker?
    - Protection against players being unexpectedly rested with a FH you should have a full and decent bench) or last minute injuries in the lead-in to 31
    - Being able to take a 1 week punt in 30 (i.e. something like, how many more points will Barkley score than Grealish/Perez?)

    Incredibly hard to predict how much the above 4 could be worth in terms of points. It's FF and it's one week, Dendonker could score from a corner and you might be down points.

    But I would guess the above might be worth an extra 5-10 points, and it also just gives you that slight higher ceiling - Mane, Jota, Doherty are all players who could really reward you in a FH31 and you could suddenly be talking about 20 points more.

    So based on this (the fact I don't have the ideal 6 players, so we're not just talking about 3 extra) I might reassess my projection to the FH giving me 15-20 extra points. That's in the bracket where you would say that's a decent FH, plus you might have a bit of a chance of going even further if someone like Mane has an explosive day at the office


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,427 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    SkySter wrote: »
    Some people seem to be holding onto their freehit and not planning on using it in GW31. I have both FH and WC left. As it stands I've only 6 players playing in GW31 so I'd have to take a lot of hits to get 11 out. Any reason why I shouldn't use FH in GW31? Feel like I'm missing something..
    2 FT's between now and then will get you 8 players playing. FH will get you another 3 appearances.

    FH in a DGW could potentially get you to 22 appearances, say half of those are already in your team, so you're getting another 5/6 appearances.

    There's a lot of things that can throw that up in the air, but the FH in GW37 potentially gives you more appearances (granted rotation will strike). Also, the quality of teams in your FH31 team looks weak (who are ya looking at for CS's?)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭ElTel


    SkySter wrote: »
    Some people seem to be holding onto their freehit and not planning on using it in GW31. I have both FH and WC left. As it stands I've only 6 players playing in GW31 so I'd have to take a lot of hits to get 11 out. Any reason why I shouldn't use FH in GW31? Feel like I'm missing something..

    I'll just add my thoughts to the good replies you have received.

    With no BB, you could use your WC and FH in the doubles, GW37 will be the big double (FH 11 DGWs in). So would you be happy navigating up to DGW34 (say, then WC) with FTs at the expense of missing out on a full team in BGW31 if you think you've a decent squad?

    Make a plan. Sounds simple doesn't it.
    It gets very hard to advise people now. Most are trying to maximize their OR finish and many have committed now. (So they know their plan for BGW31 and beyond)

    Others may be keeping an eye on mini leagues. They're "playing it safe" with building a team to compete against the FH31 players (say).

    Of course "playing it safe" could be the way to higher OR too!!

    Stick to your style too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    Is there an argument to be made for playing WC in GW31? What I'm thinking is - set my team the way I'd like it from GW32 onwards, but include the players I need for GW31 (I'd like Jimmi, Mane and Burnley defender for example). Essentially it's a way of saving a hit for GW31. Am I overlooking something here?


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,022 ✭✭✭✭Iused2likebusts


    sheroman01 wrote: »
    Is there an argument to be made for playing WC in GW31? What I'm thinking is - set my team the way I'd like it from GW32 onwards, but include the players I need for GW31 (I'd like Jimmi, Mane and Burnley defender for example). Essentially it's a way of saving a hit for GW31. Am I overlooking something here?

    Id probably be factoring coronavirus suspending football for a while into my thinking of why a wildcard just before int break might be a bad idea.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭sheroman01


    Id probably be factoring coronavirus suspending football for a while into my thinking of why a wildcard just before int break might be a bad idea.

    Bollox. Good point. That is annoying. GW31 is only 10 days away as well...not sure we'll have more clarification on anything by then. Just when I thought I had a plan!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,787 ✭✭✭Benimar


    Spurs are dogsh1te.

    Won’t be loading up on them for GW31.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,264 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Benimar wrote: »
    Spurs are dogsh1te.

    Won’t be loading up on them for GW31.
    Alli looks the only one worthy of consideration, possibly not much beyond 31 though


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,398 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    With the City v Arsenal game postponed, you'd have to wonder will Arsenal have a game this weekend too.


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    F1ngers wrote: »
    With the City v Arsenal game postponed, you'd have to wonder will Arsenal have a game this weekend too.

    Thinking the same.

    And what about West Ham who they’ve just played ?

    It isn’t very clear as to who was exposed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    F1ngers wrote: »
    With the City v Arsenal game postponed, you'd have to wonder will Arsenal have a game this weekend too.

    The season won't finish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭Chuck Noland


    KevIRL wrote: »
    The season won't finish

    The Italian FA’s statement yesterday about suspending the leagues with no champions or teams promoted has set the precedent now. Other country’s will follow and just nominate the clubs to play in Europe for them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,586 ✭✭✭jaykay74


    Apart from starting with a double gameweek for some clubs does anyone know if for instance the FA cup will impact games going forward with the 9 game run ? No other double gameweeks after this one already in the works ?

    Thanks if anyone has info :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    jaykay74 wrote: »
    Apart from starting with a double gameweek for some clubs does anyone know if for instance the FA cup will impact games going forward with the 9 game run ? No other double gameweeks after this one already in the works ?

    Thanks if anyone has info :)
    The only way there will be more DGW is due to unexpected postponements
    Fa cup won’t impact


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    km79 wrote: »
    The only way there will be more DGW is due to unexpected postponements
    Fa cup won’t impact

    Fa cup semi-finals are scheduled for july 17th weekend, will that impact on fixtures that weekend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,427 ✭✭✭Shedite27


    Glenbhoy wrote: »
    Fa cup semi-finals are scheduled for july 17th weekend, will that impact on fixtures that weekend?

    Nope, built into the fixture list


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