Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

Snow Garden · 04-03-2020 02:56PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Are you suggesting it will top flu' deaths in a year?

I have asked that Q many times. Very few would answer.

SeaBreezes · 04-03-2020 02:56PM

joseywhales wrote: »

NOT A MEDICAL EXPERT
I guess that means you have it for life then, like chicken pox

I was wondering why they gave the virus one name SARS-COV-2 and the disease its own name COVID-19. Kind of like HIV and AIDS?
NOT A MEDICAL EXPERT either. But it was running through my head.

weldoninhio · 04-03-2020 02:57PM

Fireball81 wrote: »

Assume if you can work from home you'd have to do that for the 2 weeks.

Can't work from home!! 2 weeks of Netflix, cans and PS4. Would prefer if it was after the 18th March though. Wanna head out for Cheltenham next week and Paddys Day the week after. Any time after that will be sweeeeeeeeeeeeet.

gabeeg · 04-03-2020 02:57PM

omega man wrote: »

What use is panic? It serves nobody other than click bait media outlets.

Follow recommendations and evaluate each day at a time based on facts.

I am basing things on facts. There are multiple countries further ahead than us in all this and they're in a real mess.

We have an opportunity to learn from them but not much time at all.

And I'm not advocating panic. I'm saying I'm personally scared. Fear is useful. I'm taking precautions.

Mic 1972 · 04-03-2020 02:58PM

Strazdas wrote: »

In certain countries maybe.....definitely not in every country. There are huge variations.

even countries that seem to have stopped it may relapse. You'd have to live on the moon to be safe

drunkmonkey · 04-03-2020 02:58PM

Tippex wrote: »

Apparently HSE said they have not instructed the school to close I haven't seen the source of that tho.

The HSE got it wrong yesterday and said the band asked to isolate was fake news which was stated on the pat Kenny show they then backtracked and said it was true. They really looked stupid, wouldn't surprise me if the same today.

Cilldara_2000 · 04-03-2020 02:58PM

MastiffMrs wrote: »

Would force majeure allow staff full pay for a longer time than normal if we had to look after kids when schools/creches are closed? Hopefully most companies will be reasonable when it comes down to it.

Reasonableness is one thing. Being able to afford anything when you've little or no work going on is another.

There could be major lay offs and redundancies in the coming weeks if businesses are forced to close.

Bob24 · 04-03-2020 02:58PM

MastiffMrs wrote: »

Would force majeure allow staff full pay for a longer time than normal if we had to look after kids when schools/creches are closed? Hopefully most companies will be reasonable when it comes down to it.

What is reasonable is all relative. Sick pay or force majeur is all fine and well if the cost of it is spread over time. But many companies would fairly quickly go bankrupt if they had no cash-flow due to a large number missing staff and customers, and had to keep paying wages at the same time. And once the company is bankrupt it won’t be paying anyone, sick or not.

04-03-2020 02:58PM

ZiabR wrote: »

Without a shadow of a doubt. We have far great numbers than 2. The nature of this virus means it is IMPOSSIBLE to stop. We will start to see more and more cases in the next 1-2 weeks. We need to cancel St. Patricks day. We need to stop flights to certain parts of the world.

I have friends who are working for the NHS and they have been told there will be an announcement made in the next 3-4 hours to confirm that the UK has a sharp increase in cases today and that the UKs head virologist has said that it is now spreading uncontained within communities.

Cab't wait to see this.... Only 2 mins to go.

BorneTobyWilde · 04-03-2020 02:59PM

Bill Gates could be the Super Hero the world needs. He loves to spend money, as he makes it faster than he can spend it.

amor3 · 04-03-2020 02:59PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

I guess the concern is the amount of close contacts in school settings.
1 kid gets it. Every kid gets exposed to it.
Then every kid goes home and infects every adult.

Still important to especially isolate those with symptoms from those at risk.

So, maybe silly questions but, can kids catch it, they are just not dying from it?? Are they carriers, can they be superspreaders? Every day I'm asking my kids has hand hygiene been talked about and are they made wash their hands more often, which I am told, they are not. They are only 5 and 9 so not a hope would they take it upon themselves to do it more frequently no matter how many times I tell them!

odyssey06 · 04-03-2020 02:59PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

What i mean is, we cant stop children and adults from getting infected because the virus is everywhere. But we can still protect the elderly who may not need to go to work and it's easier to keep away from risk of exposure The rest of us we'd be better off accepting that we are going to get infected. For the vast majority of people the symptoms are mild

Well I presume Italy are trying to stop them all getting infected at the same time, if they do go ahead with the schools closure.

odyssey06 · 04-03-2020 03:01PM

amor3 wrote: »

So, maybe silly questions but, can kids catch it, they are just not dying from it?? Are they carriers, can they be superspreaders? Every day I'm asking my kids has hand hygiene been talked about and are they made wash their hands more often, which I am told, they are not. They are only 5 and 9 so not a hope would they take it upon themselves to do it more frequently no matter how many times I tell them!

If symptomatic they can spread it
It doesn't seem to hit them as badly, so in theory less symptoms less coughing \ sneezing \ spreading but if they are putting their hands on everything while symptomatic you need to keep them away from at risk people.

omega man · 04-03-2020 03:01PM

It certainly would be the prudent decision to make if we cancelled st. Patrick day events, primarily due to the influx of higher risk nationalities.
However i understand the difficulty in making that call.

Rob A. Bank · 04-03-2020 03:04PM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

I was wondering why they gave the virus one name SARS-COV-2 and the disease its own name COVID-19. Kind of like HIV and AIDS?
NOT A MEDICAL EXPERT either. But it was running through my head.

The pitfalls of naming bugs !

caveat emptor · 04-03-2020 03:05PM

amor3 wrote: »

So, maybe silly questions but, can kids catch it, they are just not dying from it?? Are they carriers, can they be superspreaders? Every day I'm asking my kids has hand hygiene been talked about and are they made wash their hands more often, which I am told, they are not. They are only 5 and 9 so not a hope would they take it upon themselves to do it more frequently no matter how many times I tell them!

Given that the first case in the republic was a pupil in a school and that they are receiving treatment in hospital I'd say yes.

So that's 50% of patients in Ireland are children and 100% of Children who contract it need hospital treatment. (based on 2 cases nationally)

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ireland-coronavirus-dublin-hospital

M50Jct15 · 04-03-2020 03:05PM

N.Gerstmann wrote: »

So no real life playing out of Stephen King's seminal masterpiece "The Stand" ? Aww. :-(

The virus in The Stand had a 99.9% mortality rate.

So...no.

odyssey06 · 04-03-2020 03:05PM

More on the "how does coronavirus and impact on children":
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/we-simply-do-not-understand-why-coronavirus-sparing-children-puzzling-n1147951

UsBus · 04-03-2020 03:06PM

I listened to Simon Harris at lunchtime on RTE and I thought he came across extremely balanced speaking about the direction the government were taking and the advice he was taking from medical experts.

We are close to a tipping point here where people on twitter, Facebook, here on boards are so confident of their knowledge of what is required that this opinion is being forced into the public domain as the way to proceed.

You start panicking here and all of a sudden people are going mad shopping for doomsday scenarios spreading all sorts of rumour around the place.
I would much rather take my advice from health experts who know what they are talking about than listening to the likes of Teresa on liveline who knows everything about everything and will not listen to anyone who opposes her point of view.
The level of hysteria and rubbish being posted online and through WhatsApp is not helping anyone, just causing a lot of noise and hindering the process of getting is through this issue.

RTE could do worse than shutting down liveline for month or two, pure uninformed opinion from people with time on their hands to worry and ring a radio station...

04-03-2020 03:06PM

omega man wrote: »

What use is panic? It serves nobody other than click bait media outlets.

Follow recommendations and evaluate each day at a time based on facts.

Panic can manifest itself in different ways. For example if your job is in the airline industry you may be panicking about job security and trying to play down the severity of the virus risk.

frillyleaf · 04-03-2020 03:06PM

ZiabR wrote: »

Without a shadow of a doubt. We have far great numbers than 2. The nature of this virus means it is IMPOSSIBLE to stop. We will start to see more and more cases in the next 1-2 weeks. We need to cancel St. Patricks day. We need to stop flights to certain parts of the world.

I have friends who are working for the NHS and they have been told there will be an announcement made in the next 3-4 hours to confirm that the UK has a sharp increase in cases today and that the UKs head virologist has said that it is now spreading uncontained within communities.

I don't there is any need for panic but the lack of restrictions on travel to and from Italy in and out of Ireland is very complacent imo. I don't think some people understand it is the strain that will be it put on an already very under resourced, poorly run health care system.. The effect on tourism would be longer lasting and worse if there was an outbreak here. At least if it is done in a 'preventative' way it would be no different to what other countries are doing

EDit · 04-03-2020 03:07PM

I’m seeing a lot of encouragement based on the alleged improved situation in China. However, what I can’t seem to find online is any information about whether they have completely lifted all quarantines around the country. There was a concern that the virus would ‘rebound’ once the quarantine was relaxed and they all went back to work and I wasn’t sure if that had been proved wrong or not

Strazdas · 04-03-2020 03:07PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

It's not just that is it though? It's also the number of people in close proximity.
That's why France banned certain events, including the Paris half marathon.

But cancelling the parade only and leaving everything else open would smack of a PR stunt.

I'm not sure people are thinking things through here. If the parade is "unsafe", then surely Croker, the Aviva, the Tallaght Stadium, Fairyhouse and every other outdoor venue in the country is unsafe too.

M50Jct15 · 04-03-2020 03:08PM

Apologies if this is repetition; but here is the best site I've come across giving the current global position re the virus

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/85320e2ea5424dfaaa75ae62e5c06e61

Rob A. Bank · 04-03-2020 03:08PM

Trolley watch

479 beds short today in Irish hospitals today.

:-(

Computer Science Student · 04-03-2020 03:08PM

Strazdas wrote: »

But cancelling the parade only and leaving everything else open would smack of a PR stunt.

I'm not sure people are thinking things through here. If the parade is "unsafe", then surely Croker, the Aviva, the Tallaght Stadium, Fairyhouse and every other outdoor venue in the country is unsafe too.

It's more than that. People travel for the parade and it becomes a day long celebration in every indoor or outdoor pub and venue across Ireland.

amor3 · 04-03-2020 03:09PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Given that the first case in the republic was a pupil in a school and that they are receiving treatment in hospital I'd say yes.

So that's 50% of patients in Ireland are children and 100% of Children who contract it need hospital treatment. (based on 2 cases nationally)

https://www.irishcentral.com/news/ireland-coronavirus-dublin-hospital

When I said children, I meant the under 10's/ primary schools..

Computer Science Student · 04-03-2020 03:09PM

M50Jct15 wrote: »

Apologies if this is repetition; but here is the best site I've come across giving the current global position re the virus

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/85320e2ea5424dfaaa75ae62e5c06e61

If that is the best source we are in trouble. It says Ireland has just 1 confirmed case and it was in Offaly.

the butcher · 04-03-2020 03:10PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235204919159906305

dan786 · 04-03-2020 03:10PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1235204919159906305?s=20

Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP