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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • #7412
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    fr336 wrote: »
    Can you tell the difference between a year and 3 months?
    Are you suggesting it will top flu' deaths in a year?


  • #7413
    the butcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Disinfect that it comes from Parma.Has 84 cases currently. Testing only at a quarter of other regions. It can survive on surfaces for up to a week.

    https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1228036300583972866?s=20

    The main reason the Chinese were blasting all the roads with disinfectant. Remember the Chinese posting about leaving their shoes at the door?


  • #7414
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,272 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    fr336 wrote: »
    Where the hell is Joe Duffy
    I'd say exiled so he doesn't cause panic, he may never be back :D


  • #7415
    fr336
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,179 ✭✭✭✭fr336


    Doctor Jimbob wrote: »
    It's worth remembering for anyone worried about their elderly relatives and friends that while most people dying from this are elderly or unwell, that doesn't mean that most elderly or unwell people who catch it will die. They're at higher risk and I'm not trying to totally play that down, but it's far from a death sentence.

    Thanks Jimbob


  • #7416
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,025 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Is the second case in Meath as the school has closed there?
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hse-says-it-did-not-ask-meath-school-to-close-over-coronavirus-fears-985697.html


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  • #7417
    cherryghost
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,150 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    There is a problem, where China has complete control over a large body of land, can enforce restrictions with ease, whereas in Europe, every country is seemingly going about it their own way and thus is just spreading across the continent, with no country really doing anything measureable to control it.


  • #7418
    MastiffMrs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 250 ✭✭MastiffMrs


    Bob24 wrote: »
    On s related note, the French government actually just announced that for each child attending a closed school, one parent will be issued with a medical certificate and fully entitled for sick pay.

    Italy could do the same but the burden on the state and on private companies would be massive.

    Would force majeure allow staff full pay for a longer time than normal if we had to look after kids when schools/creches are closed? Hopefully most companies will be reasonable when it comes down to it.


  • #7419
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Don't know if that has been posted. Interesting development.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/bill-and-melinda-gates-fund-study-into-finding-coronavirus-cure


  • #7420
    SusanC10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭SusanC10


    Conrad83 wrote: »
    SusanC10 wrote: »
    Has Aer Lingus cancelled Flights from Dublin for the foreseeable to Northern Italy?

    Yes until 10th April at least.

    Is it Milan, Verona and Venice ?


  • #7421
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    How is it spreading so quickly, since it's supposed to be less transmissable than flu ?

    I haven't gotten the flu in 26 years (touches wood)..

    Its growing exponentially and every country is playing catch up atm. China's measures indicate you can lower the RO below 1 so containment is possible but highly unlikely in europe. We wont take their measures


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  • #7422
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Don't know if that has been posted. Interesting development.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/bill-and-melinda-gates-fund-study-into-finding-coronavirus-cure

    Thing about Cure is even if its found, it will take several months before it can be used on humans.


  • #7423
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    joe40 wrote: »
    Has there been any work done on why Italy seems to be so badly affectd compared to other European countries. The incidences in Italy are massive compared to say Britain or France. What is different there?


    I reckon its because no one was prepared for this virus to travel around the world so quickly. If you take the last epidemic it was ebola and that was contained in Africa and western countries didn't see it. When this was in the news in December and January, I paid attention but not enough thinking China is so far away from home and it won't come my way. Now its happening. I reckon Italy wasn't ready. They are like the quinea pigs for Europe. It's for the rest of us to sit up, take note, and cop on with hygiene.


  • #7424
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,336 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Watching what’s happening in China will give people an idea of what’s likely to happen here even though Europe won’t see half as many cases so it won’t take us as long to recover. Unless your close to a large outbreak like they had in Italy or are unlucky enough to get infected some other way this isn’t going to impact your daily life much. It’ll probably take another few weeks for cases to peak in Italy and then start dropping but even before then we should see reduced transmission of the virus around Europe since most cases in Europe originated with someone from Italy anyway.


  • #7425
    omega man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,144 ✭✭✭omega man


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Well they must be very reassuring. You're a lucky man.

    So what have they been telling you that makes you feel so calm and confident?

    What use is panic? It serves nobody other than click bait media outlets.

    Follow recommendations and evaluate each day at a time based on facts.


  • #7426
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    dan786 wrote: »
    Thing about Cure is even if its found, it will take several months before it can be used on humans.
    Oh yeah, but at least we will know a lot more about it


  • #7427
    Cartel Mike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 782 ✭✭✭Cartel Mike


    retro:electro wrote: »
    The Government need to step in here and outright ban any frivolous travel to Italy such as ski trips and ban any exchange students from entering the country. What are they at? I cared for my terminally ill mother for many years and saw how susceptible and vulnerable she was to any kind of virus. Are the Government asleep at the wheel? People are going to die because some child wanted to go skiing. And it won’t be someone young who has every chance of fighting it. It’ll be someone older who has done all they can to insure they can stay on this planet for as long as possible, and has taken preventative measures to protect themselves. But there’s only so much one person can do, we need a communal effort to help people who are going to find this extreme difficult to fight.

    If my mother was still alive now I would be absolutely fuming. And I’m extremely annoyed for those who are immune suppressed and want to live and shouldn’t be seen as expendable because they’re older.


    In essence this is the truth of it and its the times we live in. if i'm a parent of a child in a school who is going ahead with a ski trip in the middle of a pandemic to the worst affected area of europe ......I'm ringing other parents and getting signed petitions to stop it. I dont understand why this is a 'rights' issue to some people.


  • #7428
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,394 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    Shutting down offices and schools can have a much worse effect then having people getting infected if you consider that people under 50 don't seem to get badly affected by the virus and they are the ones going to school and to work everyday. If anything it's important to protect the elderly in their homes by disinfecting the areas where they are staying

    I guess the concern is the amount of close contacts in school settings.
    1 kid gets it. Every kid gets exposed to it.
    Then every kid goes home and infects every adult.

    Still important to especially isolate those with symptoms from those at risk.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • #7429
    the butcher
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher


    cherryghost wrote: »
    There is a problem, where China has complete control over a large body of land, can enforce restrictions with ease, whereas in Europe, every country is seemingly going about it their own way and thus is just spreading across the continent, with no country really doing anything measureable to control it.

    Which turns our "containment" measures into a whack-a-mole approach. Soon we won't have enough hammers to whack 'em all....POKEMON.


  • #7430
    Tippex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,958 ✭✭✭Tippex


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Is the second case in Meath as the school has closed there?
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hse-says-it-did-not-ask-meath-school-to-close-over-coronavirus-fears-985697.html

    Apparently HSE said they have not instructed the school to close I haven't seen the source of that tho.


  • #7431
    Naggdefy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    DOCARCH wrote: »
    Taking a rest so he can be on top form when people start dying!

    Yeah...yeah...yeah...

    No doubt in 2022 Joe will have a new buke out 'The Poor Chisslers of the Corona Virus in Ireland'.


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  • #7432
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,285 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    ZiabR wrote: »
    Without a shadow of a doubt. We have far great numbers than 2. The nature of this virus means it is IMPOSSIBLE to stop. We will start to see more and more cases in the next 1-2 weeks. We need to cancel St. Patricks day. We need to stop flights to certain parts of the world.

    I have friends who are working for the NHS and they have been told there will be an announcement made in the next 3-4 hours to confirm that the UK has a sharp increase in cases today and that the UKs head virologist has said that it is now spreading uncontained within communities.

    Cancelling St.Patricks Day and yet having no flight restrictions in and out of the country would make no sense. Ireland is a tourist hub all year round.

    If the claim is that tourists or visitors are a health risk, you would have to target all of them, not just parade goers.


  • #7433
    ZiabR
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,575 ✭✭✭ZiabR


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Cancelling St.Patricks Day and yet having no flight restrictions in and out of the country would make no sense. Ireland is a tourist hub all year round.

    If the claim is that tourists or visitors are a health risk, you would have to target all of them, not just parade goers.

    St. Patricks day brings 10s of thousands of people into one area which MASSIVELY increases the risk of spread.


  • #7434
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    Minister for Health Simon Harris has warned that the virus could be with us "for months and months".

    Speaking on RTÉ's News at One, he said Irish citizens are being advised to avoid unnecessary travel to northern Italy, but that banning flights arriving here from affected areas would not be effective.

    "All of the public health advice - not just in Ireland, but at an EU level - is that that wouldn't be effective for a variety of reasons", Mr Harris said.

    "Including the fact that even if you did do it, what's to stop somebody arriving from an affected region who has flown out of another member state?"


  • #7435
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Tippex wrote: »
    Apparently HSE said they have not instructed the school to close I haven't seen the source of that tho.
    RTE have it also, in their feed. Apparently the school will open tomorrow.


  • #7436
    Glenbhoy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,853 ✭✭✭Glenbhoy


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    The only thing people will be talking about in August is the Galway All Ireland double in hurling and football.

    It'll be forever tinged by the fact that the kerry govt under the healy raes refused to sanction kerry's participation as part of 'the lockdown' to prevent the spread of corona to the kingdom, this despite the fact that one would have thought that the kingdom would be the natural home of the corona!!
    The withdrawal of new york on Mike pence's instruction and London by order of Cummings further tarnished the 'double'!!


  • #7437
    dan786
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,341 ✭✭✭dan786


    On Italian School closures:
    Italy has not yet decided whether to close schools and universities over the novel coronavirus, Education Minister Lucia Azzolina said, after ANSA and other Italian agencies said they will be shut until mid-March.

    The minister came out of a government meeting where new measures were being discussed by top ministers to explain that a final ruling on schools and universities will come "in the next hours".


  • #7438
    N.Gerstmann
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 ✭N.Gerstmann


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Watching what’s happening in China will give people an idea of what’s likely to happen here even though Europe won’t see half as many cases so it won’t take us as long to recover. Unless your close to a large outbreak like they had in Italy or are unlucky enough to get infected some other way this isn’t going to impact your daily life much. It’ll probably take another few weeks for cases to peak in Italy and then start dropping but even before then we should see reduced transmission of the virus around Europe since most cases in Europe originated with someone from Italy anyway.


    So no real life playing out of Stephen King's seminal masterpiece "The Stand" ? Aww. :-(


  • #7439
    Strazdas
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,285 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    wadacrack wrote: »
    Its growing exponentially and every country is playing catch up atm. China's measures indicate you can lower the RO below 1 so containment is possible but highly unlikely in europe. We wont take their measures

    In certain countries maybe.....definitely not in every country. There are huge variations.


  • #7440
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,394 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Strazdas wrote: »
    Cancelling St.Patricks Day and yet having no flight restrictions in and out of the country would make no sense. Ireland is a tourist hub all year round.
    If the claim is that tourists or visitors are a health risk, you would have to target all of them, not just parade goers.

    It's not just that is it though? It's also the number of people in close proximity.
    That's why France banned certain events, including the Paris half marathon.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #7441
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I guess the concern is the amount of close contacts in school settings.
    1 kid gets it. Every kid gets exposed to it.
    Then every kid goes home and infects every adult.

    Still important to especially isolate those with symptoms from those at risk.


    What i mean is, we cant stop children and adults from getting infected because the virus is everywhere. But we can still protect the elderly who may not need to go to work and it's easier to keep away from risk of exposure The rest of us we'd be better off accepting that we are going to get infected. For the vast majority of people the symptoms are mild


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