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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • #6782
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Brenden Agreeable Rabble-rouser wrote: »
    Any details on where in the East this case is?
    I would like to have an idea where they are as I have incurable cancer and a compromised immune system. I don't want to be catching anything.


  • #6783
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The HSE has recommended that everyone should visit boards.ie for the most up to date and factual information.


  • #6784
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    gabeeg wrote: »
    Grim

    https://youtu.be/QwjDu7aLGPs

    That is extremely grim. Very similar to videos coming out of China in the early days which many of us brushed off as fake. Presumably as it's channel 4 news and they filmed it themselves we're allowed to believe it's real? Definitely suggests the deaths are higher than they're letting on but is anyone surprised?


  • #6785
    Esel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,877 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/Franklin_Graham/status/1234283712617046016

    Check out the responses
    See the guy near the door trying to suppress a sneeze. :)

    Not your ornery onager



  • #6786
    Arrival
    Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭Arrival


    At this point, still hearing morons trying to downplay the danger we're facing is just maddening, combined with the lack of adequate action by the HSE it's just so disheartening considering where we may be over the next couple of months. Hopefully it really is all blown out of proportion and we're worrying about nothing, but **** these stats from Italy are frightening to my mind

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
    466 new cases and 27 new deaths in Italy, for a total of 2,502 cases and 79 deaths to date. [source] [source]
    Among the 2,263 active cases, 1,034 (46%) are hospitalized, 229 of which (representing 10% of active cases) are in intensive care.
    Among the 239 closed cases, 160 (67%) have recovered, 79 (33%) have died.


    Bruce Aylward, World Health Organization Joint Mission to China:

    "I think the key learning from China is speed — it’s all about the speed. The faster you can find the cases, isolate the cases, and track their close contacts, the more successful you’re going to be. [...]

    People keep saying [the cases are the] tip of the iceberg. But we couldn’t find that. We found there’s a lot of people who are cases, a lot of close contacts — but not a lot of asymptomatic circulation of this virus in the bigger population. And that’s different from flu. [...]

    China got patients in treatment early and have highly sophisticated health care treatment procedures. They are really good at keeping people alive with this disease. They have a survival rate (with a mortality rate of just under 1% outside of Hubei province) for this disease I would not extrapolate to the rest of the world. What you’ve seen in Italy and Iran is that a lot of people are dying.

    Panic and hysteria are not appropriate. This is a disease that is in the cases and their close contacts. It’s not a hidden enemy lurking behind bushes. Get organized, get educated, and get working.


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  • #6787
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Can Italy contain it or is it way too late?


  • #6788
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    tuxy wrote: »
    You will have to wait until the morning when people who were in close contact with her may get a letter from the HSE. Then it will be straight to social media.

    As George Hamilton said
    A nation holds it breath.
    Literally


  • #6789
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    cnocbui wrote: »
    I think they are in the clear with ebola, but that's about it.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/black-death-in-asia-bubonic-plague-195144

    They are in the clear for MERS also.


  • #6790
    Heat_Wave
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭Heat_Wave


    The latest case is a student on DCU campus I believe


  • #6791
    vladmydad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭vladmydad


    I’m booked to go to the southern Spain on Thursday, for the weekend. Should I cancel? And would you think Aer Lingus would allow me to reschedule the flights ?


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  • #6792
    Straffan1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Straffan1979


    cnocbui wrote: »
    65,000,000 * 0.8 * 0.034 = 1,768,000 dead

    Can't get my head around that really.



    Hate to say it and nobody wants to admit it but the reality is there’s too many of us on the planet ... we’re goin to be thinned out at some stage just like all other populations of animals/plants who get out of control -

    We’re in what’s known as ‘overshoot’ in population dynamics terms i.e the world population has exceeded the carrying capacity of our environment... you’ve people living in squalid conditions eating bats and vermin and it’s resulted in this kicking off- that’s my take on it.


  • #6793
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    vladmydad wrote: »
    I’m booked to go to the southern Spain on Thursday, for the weekend. Should I cancel? And would you think Aer Lingus would allow me to reschedule the flights ?

    You only get a refund or reschedule if the flight is canceled afaik.


  • #6794
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    cnocbui wrote: »
    I think they are in the clear with ebola, but that's about it.

    https://www.thoughtco.com/black-death-in-asia-bubonic-plague-195144

    According to Alan Partridge, the plague started over a mal-attended surface.


  • #6795
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    The latest case is a student on DCU campus I believe

    If     that was true it's actually in close enough proximity to the other case. They are said to be totally separate, however.


  • #6796
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    Straffan1979 wrote: »
    Hate to say it and nobody wants to admit it but the reality is there’s too many of us on the planet ... we’re goin to be thinned out at some stage just like all other populations of animals/plants who get out of control -

    We’re in what’s known as ‘overshoot’ in population dynamics terms i.e the world population has exceeded the carrying capacity of our environment... you’ve people living in squalid conditions eating bats and vermin and it’s resulted in this kicking off- that’s my take on it.

    I’m not sure people didn’t always eat everything including bats but I do I agree , this is nature’s cull of us


  • #6797
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    Brenden Agreeable Rabble-rouser wrote: »
    Any details on where in the East this case is?

    Why do you want to know?


  • #6798
    YFlyer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,717 ✭✭✭YFlyer


    tuxy wrote: »
    The UK's chief medical officer said it in a press conference today.

    Also 1 in 5 absent from work if it gets as bad as possible.

    Did he mention how 20% wouldn't catch the virus?


  • #6799
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    Can Italy contain it or is it way too late?

    Well Hubei had 550 cases when the province was completely closed down and those cases still grew to nearly 70,000, Italy has over 2500 now and is not enforcing any kind of harsh measures so probably

    But WHO said it can be contained so who am I to say they are wrong. I just dont see how its possible based on the precedent of how much cases in China grew even with normal daily life completely halted


  • #6800
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Atlantic Dawn wrote: »
    Should we start making hand sanitiser from Jameson?

    Dont be daft! Best applied internally...


  • #6801
    gabeeg
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    It's just way more difficult to do anything like what the Chinese did in a liberal democracy

    It's looking really bleak


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  • #6802
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,647 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Nothing to report in my hospital. Not in remit to tell other stories.


  • #6803
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Well Hubei had 550 cases when the city was completely closed down and those cases still grew to over 80,000, Italy has over 2000 now and is not enforcing any kind of harsh measures so probably

    One thing is sure no amount of prayers will help Iran , they are screwed


  • #6804
    Straffan1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Straffan1979


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    I’m not sure people didn’t always eat everything including bats but I do I agree , this is nature’s cull of us

    Bats are closely related to humans and are classed as ‘primates’ by some ... Ebola, SARS among other nasties come from these lads - bizarrely there’s links to Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s disease I’ve read about before online-Best left hanging in the trees I’d say,

    I think this will be a positive outcome of this debacle - the end of the bush meat trade...it’ll became synonymous with disease etc


  • #6805
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,147 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    Straffan1979 wrote: »
    Hate to say it and nobody wants to admit it but the reality is there’s too many of us on the planet ... we’re goin to be thinned out at some stage just like all other populations of animals/plants who get out of control -

    We’re in what’s known as ‘overshoot’ in population dynamics terms i.e the world population has exceeded the carrying capacity of our environment... you’ve people living in squalid conditions eating bats and vermin and it’s resulted in this kicking off- that’s my take on it.

    There have been much more deadly plagues when the earth had a fraction of the population, many living in more squalid conditions.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • #6806
    skimpydoo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    YFlyer wrote: »
    Why do you want to know?
    Maybe they or one of their family has a compromised immune system. Dr John Crown was on earlier on the Tonight Show saying his patients who have cancer will be greatly affected. He also mentioned that they are expecting to have a longer life expectancy. As I have said earlier I have incurable cancer which has resulted in me having a compromised immune system, and also a focked up respiratory system thanks to my treatment.


  • #6807
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    It shows how reliant and intrinsically interconnected we really are though, they are a thousand years behind us but we suffer because of it


  • #6808
    05eaftqbrs9jlh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    Heat_Wave wrote: »
    The latest case is a student on DCU campus I believe
    Sauce?


  • #6809
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,999 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Straffan1979 wrote: »
    Hate to say it and nobody wants to admit it but the reality is there’s too many of us on the planet ... we’re goin to be thinned out at some stage just like all other populations of animals/plants who get out of control -

    We’re in what’s known as ‘overshoot’ in population dynamics terms i.e the world population has exceeded the carrying capacity of our environment... you’ve people living in squalid conditions eating bats and vermin and it’s resulted in this kicking off- that’s my take on it.

    You are describing living conditions that have existed prominently in human populations ever since we foolishly began agricuture.

    Disease is nothing new and it doesn't have anything to do with the current population levels, it's just popped up as diseases have been doing for millennia. It's not a result of deforestation or over-use of resources or 'Gaia' - those are human concerns linked to a natural phenomenon in order to attempt to ascribe a moral righteousness and allow for an 'I told you so' soundbite. You might as well claim human responsibility for tsunamis, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.


  • #6810
    Straffan1979
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭Straffan1979


    SafeSurfer wrote: »
    There have been much more deadly plagues when the earth had a fraction of the population, many living in more squalid conditions.

    Fair point but surely it only increases the chances of something like this kicking off - we’d a good run of it since the Black Death


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  • #6811
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,803 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    gabeeg wrote: »
    It's just way more difficult to do anything like what the Chinese did in a liberal democracy

    It's looking really bleak

    Brits seem to be contemplating some pretty drastic measures like cancelling public transport. If they did it it might give our guys cover...


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