Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

Ulysses Gaze · 03-03-2020 02:09PM

KWAG2019 wrote: »

HSE continues to fumble. This has been their recognized pattern of behaviour for years past. I’ve no doubt medical people and nursing staff will do their best but the rest is just bumbling along.

That's what happens when you have a bunch of middle managers tooling around on six figure salaries without a clue what is going on.

schmoo2k · 03-03-2020 02:09PM

wakka12 wrote: »

Youd have to wonder about the mental health of people who put out those fake HSE letters

...and when will folks learn that this is what social media is all about (well a large % anyway) - if its real it will get confirmed and published on a "news" feed, not a "social feed".
Yes there are degrees of spoof / taste - and this one is obviously triggering an issue for a small % of the population, but if we didn't have it, then social media would be very boring.

synesthesia · 03-03-2020 02:09PM

the butcher wrote: »

My god what a farce. officials come out and say the letter is a hoax.

Now say it's real. Rte confirmed also just now

rte still says it's a hoax : https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0303/1119921-coronavirus/

Earlier reports circulating that the letter was a hoax are untrue.

Loafing Oaf · 03-03-2020 02:10PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Seeing as the Iranian Government has many now infected are our own Government now at risk? I refer to close relation of party leader.

Took me a minute. Yeah she is theoretically a test of the effectiveness of HSE self-isolation policies...

Goldengirl · 03-03-2020 02:11PM

Juliette Clever Tear wrote: »

Yes they completely underestimated the cases there.

Meanwhile, where are rte getting their info from:

'The infection rate of Covid-19 is around 20% which means that 80% of people will not be infected'

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0303/1119921-coronavirus/

I have not heard anything to suggest this figure is accurate.

You' ve got the numbers a bit mixed up there.
Infection rate numbers not available as of yet
80% of those infected will get a milder version, 20% will get a severe infection, depending on age and vulnerability.

MOR316 · 03-03-2020 02:11PM

antodeco wrote: »

Or people applaud our desire to put public health and safety first and people think "wow, ireland really care about their people. We should visit there sometime".

Cares about it's people

sjb25 · 03-03-2020 02:12PM

Computer Science Student wrote: »

any link to this hoax/non hoax thing?

It’s in this thread several times even just search the site it will come up

laurah591 · 03-03-2020 02:12PM

synesthesia wrote: »

rte still says it's a hoax : https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0303/1119921-coronavirus/

https://www.newstalk.com/news/members-youth-band-dublin-asked-self-isolate-coronavirus-concerns-976686

Source updated 11 mins ago versus RTE updated 30 mins ago shocking miscommunication

the butcher · 03-03-2020 02:14PM

synesthesia wrote: »

rte still says it's a hoax : https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0303/1119921-coronavirus/

This was on rte news at one. Articles probably haven't been updated yet

wadacrack · 03-03-2020 02:15PM

4 cases in France are linked to Egypt , a country with high travel to China. They seem to have a potentially similar situation on their hands to Iran.

Qatar banned flights to Egypt 2 weeks ago also

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/qatar-bans-travellers-egypt-coronavirus-fears-200301163724833.html

the butcher · 03-03-2020 02:15PM

https://twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1234825251248316423?s=19

Snow Garden · 03-03-2020 02:15PM

Tomato1 wrote: »

Communication is not the HSE's strong point.
The left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing on every possible level.

Can't stress this enough. Anybody who works for the HSE will know.

I worked on a project with the HSE a few years ago. Never again. Their management layers were outstandingly incompetent and lazy.

laurah591 · 03-03-2020 02:17PM

the butcher wrote: »

This was on rte news at one. Articles probably haven't been updated yet

sorry; rte also saying band requested to self isolate.

lainey_d_123 · 03-03-2020 02:18PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

My first shopping trip since the emergence of the first Irish case this morning, I was thinking about the practicalities of touching door handles, trolleys etc. Okay you can avoid touching your mouth & nose and wash your hands thoroughly when you get home, but if the virus was on any of those surfaces, you may have transferred it to to keys, laser card, shopping bags etc. Do I need to wipe down all those as well?
Medical guy on the radio saying picking it up from surfaces was a remote possibility, the real danger was person-to-person contact

As evidenced by this post, I'm convinced that the toll on people's mental health is going to be worse or as bad as the virus itself. As an OCD sufferer, this is ALWAYS my thought process ('everything could be contaminated') and now we have vast swathes of the population thinking like this. And once these thoughts creep in, it's almost impossible to get rid of them, even after the 'threat' has passed. A lot of these people are never going to be able to go back to thinking 'normally' again.

woohoo!!! · 03-03-2020 02:19PM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Woohoo!

I can confirm that I'm fine

BarryD2 · 03-03-2020 02:21PM

Have they not been a bit slow off the mark regarding this band practice? The school situation was known on Sunday night and surely the young man/ parents also communicated that he'd been at a band practice too? why the delay of a day+. Wouldn't fill you with confidence.

Goldengirl · 03-03-2020 02:21PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

seeing as it only lives on surfaces for 9 hours, it'd be well gone by today

9 hours or 9 days?

Babooshka · 03-03-2020 02:21PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Could easily have a head cold, not everyone that coughs has covid 19

Exactly...I can't see people ill with coronavirus skipping around airports. We wouldn't even know we had a lot of cases here...everyone's always choking coughing in Ireland at this time of year anyway.

Fr_Dougal · 03-03-2020 02:22PM

bennyl10 wrote: »

seeing as it only lives on surfaces for 9 hours, it'd be well gone by today

That’s not quite true, benny.

Depending on the surface, the virus can last up to 9 days.

Link to how long the virus can live on different surface types: https://www.journalofhospitalinfection.com/article/S0195-6701(20)30046-3/fulltext

You can also see the efficacy of different cleaning agents against the virus on the table below it.

jam_mac_jam · 03-03-2020 02:22PM

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

As evidenced by this post, I'm convinced that the toll on people's mental health is going to be worse or as bad as the virus itself. As an OCD sufferer, this is ALWAYS my thought process ('everything could be contaminated') and now we have vast swathes of the population thinking like this. And once these thoughts creep in, it's almost impossible to get rid of them, even after the 'threat' has passed. A lot of these people are never going to be able to go back to thinking 'normally' again.

Its really not going to be as bad as the virus itself. This has killed thousands of people. I am sorry that you have thoughts that cause you mental harm but its not the same as death.

YFlyer · 03-03-2020 02:22PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

9 hours or 9 days?

Depends on the type of surface.

cnocbui · 03-03-2020 02:23PM

I have just been shopping. No signs of panic buying in Nenagh, apart from hand sanitiser. I suspect some people are buying ten at a time or something.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 03-03-2020 02:23PM

lainey_d_123 wrote: »

As evidenced by this post, I'm convinced that the toll on people's mental health is going to be worse or as bad as the virus itself. As an OCD sufferer, this is ALWAYS my thought process ('everything could be contaminated') and now we have vast swathes of the population thinking like this. And once these thoughts creep in, it's almost impossible to get rid of them, even after the 'threat' has passed. A lot of these people are never going to be able to go back to thinking 'normally' again.

I'm hearing you and I'm the same, my habits haven't changed because I was already like this!

JDD · 03-03-2020 02:24PM

That young fella had a suspected case on Saturday evening (it was definitely online by 9pm) and I presume it takes a few hours for test results to come through. If he got his "suspected positive test" early Saturday morning, I'd be pretty miffed at the HSE at letting him off to band practice. I'm sure he wouldn't have done it if they had told him not to.

England and Scotland have emergency powers to enforce quarantine if they had to. Do we have the same powers here? I suspect not.

whisky_galore · 03-03-2020 02:24PM

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

That's what happens when you have a bunch of middle managers tooling around on six figure salaries without a clue what is going on.

They seriously need a Night of the Long Knives in that clusterfück of an organisation.

Juwwi · 03-03-2020 02:25PM

The HSE need to issue an apology to all hoaxers out there for giving them a bad name today .

gozunda · 03-03-2020 02:25PM

Babooshka wrote: »

Exactly...I can't see people ill with coronavirus skipping around airports. We wouldn't even know we had a lot of cases here...everyone's always choking coughing in Ireland at this time of year anyway.

Problem is that many get only mild symptoms- yet may also be infectious. So yeah in all likelihood peoole wont know if they have the Corona virus or other respiratory infection. And will most certainly be in airports, shops, and other places where infection will be passed on to others who may not be so lucky ...

TheMilkyPirate · 03-03-2020 02:26PM

There's no sign of panic buying because outside of this thread the vast vast majority of people are not that bothered by it all.

Ninthlife · 03-03-2020 02:27PM

JDD wrote: »

That young fella had a suspected case on Saturday evening (it was definitely online by 9pm) and I presume it takes a few hours for test results to come through. If he got his "suspected positive test" early Saturday morning, I'd be pretty miffed at the HSE at letting him off to band practice. I'm sure he wouldn't have done it if they had told him not to.

England and Scotland have emergency powers to enforce quarantine if they had to. Do we have the same powers here? I suspect not.

Just listen to what they said to all the pupils in the school, dont isolate just minimise contact. Same thing probably said to this kid and now look

Goldengirl · 03-03-2020 02:27PM

William Legrande wrote: »

A multi-agency task force that will hit the ground running is to be established, no doubt.

They will make recommendations going forward and guidelines of scope of a future Commission for Containment of Pandemkcs .

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP