FE1 Exam Thread (Read 1st post!) NOTE: YOU MAY SWAP EXAM GRIDS

iamanengine · 02-03-2020 05:47PM

Remember guys, you know more than you think you do!

sm333 · 02-03-2020 06:48PM

For liberty are people going with the cases in the city colleges night before notes? I feel like I couldn’t learn any more than the 40 there, just wouldn’t have time to write any more in the exam!

ahhhhhFE1s · 02-03-2020 06:58PM

sm333 wrote: »

For liberty are people going with the cases in the city colleges night before notes? I feel like I couldn’t learn any more than the 40 there, just wouldn’t have time to write any more in the exam!

Tbh 40 for one topic seems excessive.. Surely not??

Sineaddh · 02-03-2020 07:15PM

I’m quite stuck for time now with still half of contract and equity to cover. Is there any topics that overlap between subjects to make my cramming any easier? Appreciate any advice!

PerryMason2020 · 02-03-2020 07:32PM

ahhhhhFE1s wrote: »

Tbh 40 for one topic seems excessive.. Surely not??

Yeah, 40 seems excessive! I think look at how many of the 40 are saying the same thing and cut where needed. I'm not doing constitutional, but for criminal I noticed that I had several cases saying the same thing. I've cut a few of those out and will focus instead on any cases which might add something new or go against the grain etc. Given the time constraints, we can't write all that we know, nor should we, so I think some cherry picking is in order.

Law1997 · 02-03-2020 08:08PM

Is anyone else getting upset and frustrated wit the exam papers for Constitutional? It’s like I spend the whole day learning and then can’t even think when it comes to the papers :-( think I’m just exhausted

user115 · 02-03-2020 08:19PM

Law1997 wrote: »

Is anyone else getting upset and frustrated wit the exam papers for Constitutional? It’s like I spend the whole day learning and then can’t even think when it comes to the papers :-( think I’m just exhausted

I'm too afraid to look at the papers again....Revising is taking me ages but I think I retaining info, like I'm taking my time with it to understand but going to be under serious pressure revising equity in 2 and 1/2 days

I have about 4 topcis revised in equity thought i'd have time tonight or tomorrow to do bit more but I'd say it's unlikely, constit is taking up so much time.

In Shatter v Guerin is it basically saying that Shatter's right to fair procedures was not interfered with because the the report was not the last word?

iamanengine · 02-03-2020 08:32PM

user115 wrote: »

I'm too afraid to look at the papers again....Revising is taking me ages but I think I retaining info, like I'm taking my time with it to understand but going to be under serious pressure revising equity in 2 and 1/2 days I have about 4 topcis revised in equity thought i'd have time tonight or tomorrow to do bit more but I'd say it's unlikely, constit is taking up so much time.

In Shatter v Guerin is it basically saying that Shatter's right to fair procedures was not interfered with because the the report was not the last word?

Make sure you have the SC case for Shatter, they found his right to fair procedure was interfered with, it made adverse conclusions re Shatter and it exceeded its scope as a preliminary report, must be given fair procedures (he should have been interviewed) where adverse conclusions are publicly reported

user115 · 02-03-2020 09:54PM

How would people answer Q1 Constit last sitting Oct 2019? It's the emission controls agency taking action against Diesel Fuels ltd?

iamanengine · 02-03-2020 10:12PM

user115 wrote: »

How would people answer Q1 Constit last sitting Oct 2019? It's the emission controls agency taking action against Diesel Fuels ltd?

Non-Delegation doctrine, Cityview, Laurentiu, Leontjava, McGowan, Bederev etc

shambles2020 · 02-03-2020 10:41PM

ahhhhhFE1s wrote: »

Can't see you have any issues.. I only have 8 topics -Adverse Possession, Co-Ownership, Easements, Family Protection (117 Applications), Finding, Landlord and Tenant, License and Succession same as my friend did last sitting and passed no bother!

Although seeing how much you have done has worried me now haha

I still haven't stared learning them off , so don't be

alice.n · 02-03-2020 11:19PM

Has anyone got any need to know recent cases for Criminal?

Such a broad question I know, but all my cases are so old!

niamh1612 · 02-03-2020 11:41PM

Could anyone advise re Criminal if I study these topics is this enough/too much(hopeful) or anything vital I'm missing?

1.Characteristics of Crime
2.AR/MR
3.homicide
4. NFOAP
5. Sexual Off
6. Property Off
7. Defences
8. Arrest/Detention/Bail/Presum Innocence/ minor v non minor/jurisdiction of courts

Thanks

jewels652 · 03-03-2020 12:19AM

Sitting the exam Cork

Can we drop in the legislative sources the day before? the same procedure as in Dublin I hope.

I need to drop in the constitution for Friday.

Dancing Obsession · 03-03-2020 12:24AM

user115 wrote: »

On fair procedures my notes are a bit mixed up on Goodman v Hamilton 2, was the ruling here that tribunal must uphold fair procedures if it impacts someones goodname and in such circumstances then Dail priviliedge gives way to fair procedures and Dail must disclose that info relating to good name of someone?

I'm so confused, any help would be great

I have Goodman v Hamilton in the Judicial Power topic. Held - Tribunals do not administer justice. Applied test in McDonald v Bord na gCon; No sanctions - civil or criminal; Any findings can not be used as evidence in Court. Noted - only first limb was 'possibly' satisfied; but that alone would be insufficient to make it a judicial function. Finlay CJ - never been a judicial function to make findings of fact in vacuo and report to Legislature; even in litigation, the only facts found are those relevant to the case; Distinction b/w judicial power and duty to act judicially.
I'm not sure what exactly you mean re good name but in the context of the Courts' ability to intervene in the internal workings of the Oireachtas where a citizen's right to a good name is in issue e.g. Maguire v Argagh and Callely v Moylan.
Re Fair Procedures: Garvey v Ireland; Audi Alterem Partem and Neeno Iudex in Sua Causa; Horizontal Application; A right that is Case Sensitive; Advance Notice and the right to be heard; right to be provided with documentation; right to cross-examine; duty to give reasons; right to representation; Nemo Iudex in Sua Cause (Bias).
I hope I clarified this a little. If I didn't answer the question, sorry. If you need my notes, pm me your e-mail.

user115 · 03-03-2020 12:52AM

Dancing Obsession wrote: »

I have Goodman v Hamilton in the Judicial Power topic. Held - Tribunals do not administer justice. Applied test in McDonald v Bord na gCon; No sanctions - civil or criminal; Any findings can not be used as evidence in Court. Noted - only first limb was 'possibly' satisfied; but that alone would be insufficient to make it a judicial function. Finlay CJ - never been a judicial function to make findings of fact in vacuo and report to Legislature; even in litigation, the only facts found are those relevant to the case; Distinction b/w judicial power and duty to act judicially.
I'm not sure what exactly you mean re good name but in the context of the Courts' ability to intervene in the internal workings of the Oireachtas where a citizen's right to a good name is in issue e.g. Maguire v Argagh and Callely v Moylan.
Re Fair Procedures: Garvey v Ireland; Audi Alterem Partem and Neeno Iudex in Sua Causa; Horizontal Application; A right that is Case Sensitive; Advance Notice and the right to be heard; right to be provided with documentation; right to cross-examine; duty to give reasons; right to representation; Nemo Iudex in Sua Cause (Bias).
I hope I clarified this a little. If I didn't answer the question, sorry. If you need my notes, pm me your e-mail.

Thanks so much, that's great

lawstudentirl · 03-03-2020 01:09AM

niamh1612 wrote: »

Could anyone advise re Criminal if I study these topics is this enough/too much(hopeful) or anything vital I'm missing?

1.Characteristics of Crime
2.AR/MR
3.homicide
4. NFOAP
5. Sexual Off
6. Property Off
7. Defences
8. Arrest/Detention/Bail/Presum Innocence/ minor v non minor/jurisdiction of courts

Thanks

Are you trolling? Of course you’ll be okay that’s the entire course

lsheehaneire · 03-03-2020 09:40AM

I was wondering the same, also does anybody know what time neptune opens ?

rightytighty · 03-03-2020 09:42AM

lsheehaneire wrote: »

I was wondering the same, also does anybody know what time neptune opens ?

I tried calling them last week but I couldn’t get an answer

JCormac · 03-03-2020 11:20AM

Hey guys,

Does anybody know (if they're already up) where the City Colleges FE1 summary videos for this sitting are?

Also, the NB4 notes?

Sorry if this has been asked already recently, I'm just too back to back with study and work this minute to go trawling through the last 15 forum pages I've missed. Aghhh

Suzannec · 03-03-2020 11:26AM

https://citycolleges.ie/night-before-notes-sign-up/

iamanengine · 03-03-2020 11:27AM

JCormac wrote: »

Hey guys,

Does anybody know (if they're already up) where the City Colleges FE1 summary videos for this sitting are?

Also, the NB4 notes?

Sorry if this has been asked already recently, I'm just too back to back with study and work this minute to go trawling through the last 15 forum pages I've missed. Aghhh

https://citycolleges.ie/night-before-notes-sign-up/

Subscribe here and they will send you an email

niamh1612 · 03-03-2020 11:57AM

lawstudentirl wrote: »

Are you trolling? Of course you’ll be okay that’s the entire course

Haha Its a lot I know, but I have left 5 chapters of the manual out, I also asked in my comment if anyone could advise leaving something out

Mod
Pls do not discuss the various courses and colleges etc on this forum

lawstudentirl · 03-03-2020 12:25PM

niamh1612 wrote: »

Haha Its a lot I know, but I have left 5 chapters of the manual out, I also asked in my comment if anyone could advise leaving something out

Fair enough. Well done on having it all covered!

I’m no expert, only cutting things out because I don’t have time but I’m leaving out presumption of innocence and jurisdiction of the courts, and only covering classification of crimes and bail/arrest/detention enough to write on them in a mixed problem Q.

I think if you have time it’s ideal to cover everything since the questions are so mixed.

channing90 · 03-03-2020 01:03PM

Equity

Am I safe in leaving out constructive trusts, tracing and resulting trusts and satisfaction.
Any predictions for equity ?

rightytighty · 03-03-2020 01:17PM

lsheehaneire wrote: »

I was wondering the same, also does anybody know what time neptune opens ?

Have still been unable to get an answer when I phone the stadium. No answer from Law Society education centre either.

TCPIP · 03-03-2020 01:29PM

You'd nearly be as well to just rock up on Thursday with it and leave it there for the morning.

ahhhhhFE1s · 03-03-2020 02:38PM

Property-Constitutional

What does the trilogy of NAMA cases refer to? I know the Dellway decision implies fair procedures into any interference with property rights but what about McMahon and Breslin? Are they completely separate or do they build upon the Dellway decision?

Law000 · 03-03-2020 02:42PM

Anyone give a run down on AG v Hamilton..I’ve contrasting notes on what was decided so unsure about it? Thanks

CarrigView · 03-03-2020 02:48PM

Contract

Haven't started property revision yet so not entirely sure - is it vital to have the Sale of Goods Act(s) with you for the exam? Haven't bothered to order it and wondering if I'll be leaving myself stuck in the exam?
From what I can tell it seems to be the same sections coming up each year and doesn't require a word for word quote.

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