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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Imagine being a parent trapped in a house with a teenager (maybe several) for 2 straight weeks without a break.

    I mean teen lads are bad enough, but ones who can't get an empty house for a few minutes to "relieve the urge"..... I mean just inject me with the virus now and be done with it......

    Just turn up the volume on the tv.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,751 ✭✭✭mirrorwall14


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Imagine being a parent trapped in a house with a teenager (maybe several) for 2 straight weeks without a break.

    I mean teen lads are bad enough, but ones who can't get an empty house for a few minutes to "relieve the urge"..... I mean just inject me with the virus now and be done with it......

    I think I’d be trying to self isolate to the back garden and have someone deliver me paint and lawn seed and a shovel. Anything to keep sane!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    I work in a busy local shop handling money and coming face to face with over 1 thousand people a day

    Should I take a few weeks out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭05eaftqbrs9jlh


    Here's a report about an Irish man in quarantine in Italy with his family.
    They have been in a self-imposed quarantine since Saturday night and he said, “we are going to stick it out.”

    Their motivation was to keep their children, aged 3 and 4 well, and he said, “the worst thing you can do is think everything is okay when it is not. It is not a problem yet but if people do not stay at home they are going to create a problem.”

    “We know there is a 2-14 day incubation period so what we are going to do is sit it out for a minimum of 14 days if we have to, until the Government lift the ban.”

    “We are in unsupervised lockdown, it is just voluntary, all the schools in the region of Lombardy are closed so our kids are home from school. Myself and my wife are lucky because we can work online most of the time.”

    He said anyone who can work remotely is doing so and as a result in Milan, “there are skyscrapers that are completely evacuated, anybody who works on a computer with access to the Internet is staying at home.”

    He has heard stories of people panic buying and “saying their fridges are at bursting. A lot of the Irish are saying it was completely crazy, that the supermarket shelves were cleared out on Sunday afternoon.”

    He supports the moves by the Italian government to contain the virus and said, “that is not panicking, that is being sensible.”

    To the poster here saying there's a second school closing in Ireland due to Covid-19, please post a link and stop fanning the flames of speculation and paranoia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,425 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    I work in a busy local shop handling money and coming face to face with over 1 thousand people a day

    Should I take a few weeks out

    Get some latex gloves, change per shift \ break.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,906 ✭✭✭Poor_old_gill


    And if ESB staff have to work from home it will be as useful as an ashtray on a motorbike.


    Me I'm going tinned food all the way, enough sardines and Guinness until Easter.

    Not an option on the ESB staff- ‘pandemic planning group’ has been meeting since the start of last week.

    I sh*t you not on the name- I will swear on my children’s lives that is the name of the planning group.

    Anyway they have a plan in place, however the ESB only provides about 40% of our energy these days & I can’t speak for the other suppliers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Numbers are exploding all across Europe now almost doubled in some countries in a 24 period. The big boys in Europe France, Germany and Italy are all losing the battle.

    In fairness they didn't even fight it. They rolled over and said ces't la vie. South Korea is doing their utmost (bar the full lockdown yet, incoming) and they are short hospital beds. Nobody will just realise what they have to do. They are more interested in buying ~2 - 3 weeks of relative calm before the big realisation. Again. and again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,114 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Now in Scotland - but does that count as another country or...

    https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1234200983707770881


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    But you are admitting everyone would find out anyway.

    What difference does it make?

    I would say it makes the difference that you feel more confidence in getting the full truth of the situation at all times. I liken it to a situation years ago when I was on holiday in Sardinia and the flight was very delayed going home. The rep disappeared out of sight and people got annoyed by the lack of information. A much younger junior rep came if the scene and said “I’m going to tell you the full situation. You can expect to be delayed at least 8 to 12 more hours as the charter company has only one plane in operation. The other is in maintenance. The operational aircraft is shortly to depart from Málaga to Dublin. When it arrives there will be as short a turnaround time as possible, and it will depart for here”. The whole room calmed down, we resigned ourselves for the delay, and thanked her for being honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,949 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    With a 2 % mortality rate and the projected number so far of how many will catch it it'll just be a mere 24 million people that die from it,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,097 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    GoneHome wrote: »
    Report on Journal.ie now of a second school in Dublin closing for 14 days
    It's like Chinese whispers here. There isn't. Read it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    There was a lad on Claire Byrne Show who came back from Korea or somewhere where his colleague had coronavirus and he asked the HSE to test him

    They told him "you'll be grand"......

    Absolute state of them

    I categorically do not believe this happened.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Elessar


    gabeeg wrote: »
    There's been literally zero people who've suggested it is.

    You're having an argument with an internet persona you invented. What's that like?

    Jesus wept :D

    How does it feel to be triggered by someone trying to promote rational discourse in a thread full of scaremongering and backed up with scientific facts?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    gabeeg wrote: »
    There's been literally zero people who've suggested it is.

    You're having an argument with an internet persona you invented. What's that like?
    ??? loads of people did, in previous threads it was the running mantra, Doomsdayers vs "Ah sure itll be grand crew"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    I work in a busy local shop handling money and coming face to face with over 1 thousand people a day

    Should I take a few weeks out




    You need to get super aggressive with the customers so they don’t come back annoying you.its the only way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭KiKi III


    Mr.S wrote: »
    I'd quit tbh.

    Because of the coronavirus or just because it sounds crap?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,425 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Elessar wrote: »
    Jesus wept :D

    How does it feel to be triggered by someone trying to promote rational discourse in a thread full of scaremongering and backed up with scientific facts?

    Challenge specific posts if you think there is scaremongernig.

    This scattergun indirect "thread is full of scaremongering" is arrogant nonsense.
    Own it or disown it, but cut out the lame posting tricks.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 819 ✭✭✭EDit


    Elessar wrote: »
    Came here to post this. The doomsdayers need to be banned from this thread. Everybody needs to relax. Yes, take precautions especially if you have an underlying condition. But this isn't the end of the world like some here seem to think it will be.

    There is even some evidence that the 2% rate is not accurate and this virus is not anymore dangerous than severe seasonal infuenza:



    Still dangerous for certain areas of the population of course, but not world endingly fatal that some seem to think it is.

    The key part of the bit you quoted is this: “If one assumes that the number of asymptomatic or minimally symptomatic cases is several times as high as the number of reported cases,”... that’s not evidence, that making an assumption (I’m not saying it’s not the case, the problem is we just don’t know)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Cilldara_2000


    Only China have tried hard and fast methods of control and are slowing it.


    Everywhere else is rising so far, it has been "ah surelookit, be grand".
    https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Hot+Topics/Coronavirus+Outbreak?type=ln

    Indeed. Say what you will about the Chinese Communist Party but it appears that they've been willing to put peoples lives ahead of their livelihoods. I'm not sure the same can be said of any western country.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,483 ✭✭✭History Queen


    Not an option on the ESB staff- ‘pandemic planning group’ has been meeting since the start of last week.

    I sh*t you not on the name- I will swear on my children’s lives that is the name of the planning group.

    Anyway they have a plan in place, however the ESB only provides about 40% of our energy these days & I can’t speak for the other suppliers

    Esb Networks is responsible for the maintenance and repair of the entire electricity network. Esb don't provide electricity direct to consumers anymore. That side of the business is separate and now trades as Electric Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 591 ✭✭✭the butcher




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,714 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    I do agree, but in London everywhere is out of hand gel, which is a basic enough way to try to stay safe without overreacting. My friend hasn't been able to get any at all because it's all sold out, so is planning to get several bottles, at least, if she finds a place selling it. If a huge capital city like London can be out of hand gel, it isn't that much of a stretch to think that in a true crisis (because currently in London there have barely been any cases at all), it could be out of milk, bread or other essentials. It would only take a small fraction of the population to start panic buying to clear all the shelves.

    And this is how it starts. My friend didn't rush out and buy hand gel because she's laid back and wasn't too worried. Now she'd like to have some (because it's been advised by the NHS), she's likely to buy several bottles, because if she doesn't buy them, someone else will, and she doesn't know when it will be back in stock.

    She should buy vodka, a swig for the mind and a splash for the hands and all be good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,713 ✭✭✭Sawduck


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    There was a lad on Claire Byrne Show who came back from Korea or somewhere where his colleague had coronavirus and he asked the HSE to test him

    They told him "you'll be grand"......

    Absolute state of them

    Christ the HSE are useless, I reckon we have many more cases of this virus than just one


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,915 ✭✭✭Cupatae


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Challenge specific posts if you think there is scaremongernig.

    This scattergun indirect "thread is full of scaremongering" is arrogant nonsense.
    Own it or disown it, but cut out the lame posting tricks.

    And get dragged into a tit for tat battle of statistics and other nonsense? being rational isnt a "lame posting trick"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,006 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    People who claim they remember Woodstock, weren't there.

    In the future, people who claim they kept up with the Covid-19 not panicking thread...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    DM_7 wrote: »
    She should buy vodka, a swig for the mind and a splash for the hands and all be good.



    And a drop for the kerb for the homies that have passed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    They are taking advice from the world health organisation.

    But of course you know better than all the experts.

    You're on boards while the experts are working and dealing with the issue.

    But you know better of course.

    I'm sorry but the HSE is a disaster. Everyone knows this.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,313 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    KiKi III wrote: »
    A 2% fatality rate sounds pretty f**king high to me. Anyone saying “relax it’s only a 2% mortality rate” is gone too far down the opposite side of scaremongering and actually isn’t taking the situation as seriously as it should be.
    Look, the actual mortality rate is nowhere near accurate and won't be until many months from now(or longer). This is a clinical scientific fact. It's known that it can be asymptomatic in some, very mild in many, if not most and those people have simply not shown up in the stats to the degree where claims can be made. Do you go to the GP with a slight sniffle? Exactly. The strong likelihood is that the actual mortality rate is significantly lower than 2%.
    I do agree, but in London everywhere is out of hand gel, which is a basic enough way to try to stay safe without overreacting. My friend hasn't been able to get any at all because it's all sold out, so is planning to get several bottles, at least, if she finds a place selling it. If a huge capital city like London can be out of hand gel, it isn't that much of a stretch to think that in a true crisis (because currently in London there have barely been any cases at all), it could be out of milk, bread or other essentials. It would only take a small fraction of the population to start panic buying to clear all the shelves.

    And this is how it starts. My friend didn't rush out and buy hand gel because she's laid back and wasn't too worried. Now she'd like to have some (because it's been advised by the NHS), she's likely to buy several bottles, because if she doesn't buy them, someone else will, and she doesn't know when it will be back in stock.
    Again, Wuhan nor anywhere else in the East with far higher rates of infection and isolation ran out of food and other essentials. Yet the bloody sky is suddenly falling in here? It's daft "thinking" like this that has already caused a run on handwash and masks, neither of which show greater efficacy than simple precautions like avoiding close quarters and regular handwashing with bog standard soap and water.

    Many worry about Artificial Intelligence. I worry far more about Organic Idiocy.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    Paulzx wrote: »
    They tried to hide the school effected (and are still clinging onto this policy) despite it being impossible to do so.

    All it does is undermine peoples trust in the authorities.

    We all know the illness itself is minor for the majority of people but the HSE are attaching a stigma to it by attempting to cover things up.

    Its a really bad communication policy

    the people who need to know know. why does the entire country need to know? all that would do is cause panic from thousands of people who walked by the school or who's neighbour works in a shop down the road from there, or whose kid's friend's cousin goes there, etc etc


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