Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

Unearthly · 01-03-2020 03:32PM

I swear the people saying it's equal or less dangerous than the flu are intentionally having a laugh, or we have a large failure rate in Ireland at maths

DancingSpaniel · 01-03-2020 03:32PM

wylo wrote: »

Yes cause if it was covid 19 there'd be now 400,000 dead

Smart answer, but it's not in keeping with the mortality rate outside of China.

Drumpot · 01-03-2020 03:33PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Banning the parade would seem like nothing more than a sop to the 'hysterical overreaction' brigade (who have zero medical knowledge). Besides, the HSE expert who was questioned about the parade today on radio didn't seem to be leaning in that direction. He appeared to imply that they would only move to take such a drastic step if the situation dramatically worsened.

This would imply that the authorities are focusing more on projecting an image that everything is fine then making rational decisions on how to reduce the spread. This is a concerning attitude for authorities to continue to take.

01-03-2020 03:33PM

Sitting in a way in south Dublin suburbs. Two neighbouring conversations about the virus.

gabeeg · 01-03-2020 03:33PM

harr wrote: »

Quick question our child has underlying health issues cardiovascular and weak immune system due a number of surgeries over the last few years .. the latest update from WHO has advised people at risk stay away from crowds and areas where they might get infected.
So he has a number of hospital appointments this week going some appointments we are waiting on a long time .. so far HSE are saying to continue and attend all appointments as normal.
We are terrified of him picking up something so what to do .. keep him at home and miss appointments and go back to bottom of waiting list or risk attending a crowded hospital..

I've no idea what you should do. Probably follow expert advice I guess.

You have my sympathy though.

bb12 · 01-03-2020 03:35PM

tillyfilly wrote: »

I’m just checking in, is everybody still alive ?

well i've just been outside planting my summer flower bulbs in the garden so i guess i'm feeling optimistic that i'll still be around by then

Naggdefy · 01-03-2020 03:37PM

harr wrote: »

Quick question our child has underlying health issues cardiovascular and weak immune system due a number of surgeries over the last few years .. the latest update from WHO has advised people at risk stay away from crowds and areas where they might get infected.
So he has a number of hospital appointments this week going some appointments we are waiting on a long time .. so far HSE are saying to continue and attend all appointments as normal.
We are terrified of him picking up something so what to do .. keep him at home and miss appointments and go back to bottom of waiting list or risk attending a crowded hospital..

I'd speak with my GP firstly.

Mwengwe · 01-03-2020 03:37PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The UK is talking about shutting down cities. What would that entail?

Just not letting anyone leave or enter, I guess.

scamalert · 01-03-2020 03:39PM

gozunda wrote: »

Again the current death rate of approx 2% whilst high compared to other infections is not the only serious concern.

20% of all those who contract the Coronavirus go on to develop complications which require medical intervention up to and include intubatiion and ventilation which is a significant cause of concern.

It is this and the very serious impacts the virus will have on an already overstretched health system. It would appear that frontline medical staff are also at higher risk based on reported death rates from China.

according to real sources its more like 10% who develop some issues, later being prob in same risk category as getting flu and developing serious infection.

if in 89sq km city of 14mill total death toll didnt make it past 3k, this puts it 5 times less risky then regular flu as it stands, so panic only for those who are at risk in general and have pre existing conditions seems more like super flu, with rate of above 40% that recover without any complications. as bad as it sounds 1-10 deaths across few countries is peanuts - if media reported live on flu deaths it would be way worse numbers daily.

Drumpot · 01-03-2020 03:39PM

bb12 wrote: »

well i've just been outside planting my summer flower bulbs in the garden so i guess i'm feeling optimistic that i'll still be around by then

You don’t look that optimistic to me...

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Dotsie~tmp · 01-03-2020 03:40PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Twitter thread on Iran

01-03-2020 03:41PM

Unearthly wrote: »

I swear the people saying it's equal or less dangerous than the flu are intentionally having a laugh, or we have a large failure rate in Ireland at maths

I don’t think we are that great at basic maths as a nation. I think that people actually lose some of their knowledge of the basics whilst “progressing” through the complexities (of even pass level) maths at Leaving Cert. A lot do just enough to get themselves a pass in order to pass the overall Leaving with regard to university etc, like in the case with Irish, and empty the memory space for more dat to day needs, in the process also emptying the very useful stuff like statistics.

Beasty · 01-03-2020 03:45PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The UK is talking about shutting down cities. What would that entail?

My guess would be building a wall around London and throwing anyone who gets it out, unless of course it's Boris, in which case he will self-isolate in Churchill's War Rooms/bunker:pac:

YFlyer · 01-03-2020 03:45PM

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

The UK is talking about shutting down cities. What would that entail?

Those with urban gardens or plots have a better chance of surviving.

wakka12 · 01-03-2020 03:45PM

The most peculiar thing about this outbreak has to be the stubborn insistence by a large proportion of the population that this is somehow milder than flu when there is no evidence that that is true

Kermit.de.frog · 01-03-2020 03:47PM

wakka12 wrote: »

The most peculiar thing about this outbreak has to be the stubborn insistence by a large proportion of the population that this is somehow milder than flu when there is no evidence that that is true

Better then them panicking which helps no one.

scamalert · 01-03-2020 03:48PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I don’t think we are that great at basic maths as a nation. I think that people actually lose some of their knowledge of the basics whilst “progressing” through the complexities (of even pass level) maths at Leaving Cert. A lot do just enough to get themselves a pass in order to pass the overall Leaving with regard to university etc, like in the case with Irish, and empty the memory space for more dat to day needs, in the process also emptying the very useful stuff like statistics.

a bit like those flat earth lunatics at this point, cant do basic maths, but sure enough few pics or videos will get em pumped up. if china 1.3 bill, has fatalities of 3k, what does that translate into % wise, as personally besides seeing it as more agressive strain of flu, number wise its 0.0000003% mortality rate - that's actual reality based on actual data, not some extremist nut case, reading **** on twitter.

Donald Trump · 01-03-2020 03:48PM

VayNiice wrote: »

Yes thats why I'm saying things aren't out of the ordinary in Vietnam.

But there is no reason why there should be a shortage in hand sanitiser already in Ireland

Well it's probably because people don't normally buy it!

Your local chemist might have what is a "months supply" normally in stock. That might be 10 bottles for a population of 1,000 people.

Your local chemist in Thailand might have a week's supply on stock...which might be 100 bottles or whatever for a population of 1000.

corna virus worries in Ireland, 50% of people want to have a bottle of hand sanitizer. The chemist sells out very quickly.

corona virus worries in Thailand, 50% of people want to have a bottle of hand-sanitizer. Turns out that most of them already have a bottle in their house and they will just get their regular monthly supply in a week or two. And anyway, the local chemist has their normal amount in stock - i.e. loads.

cnocbui · 01-03-2020 03:48PM

mikemac2 wrote: »

Three posts in the last 10 pages about someone who knows a nurse who knows something

When did nurses become experts?

The youtube guy Dr John isn't even a doctor.

My sister was head nurse of a liver transplant unit of a leading university hospital in the US. I can assure you she was an expert in some medical fields.

CinemaGuy45 · 01-03-2020 03:48PM

Beasty wrote: »

My guess would be building a wall around London and throwing anyone who gets it out, unless of course it's Boris, in which case he will self-isolate in Churchill's War Rooms/bunker:pac:

There should have already built a wall around London with the amount of stabbings there.:D

gmisk · 01-03-2020 03:49PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Better then them panicking which helps no one.

Surely there is some happy medium though?

theballz · 01-03-2020 03:49PM

Again, as mentioned, why have we not put a travel ban to and from infected countries? Surely, the fact that both cases in Ireland from Italy should be consensus to provision such a policy.

China (to there credit) did put travel bans on all affected areas as soon as a diagnosis was established. The US has done the same.

When will Harris and Varadkar wake up?

gabeeg · 01-03-2020 03:49PM

scamalert wrote: »

according to real sources its more like 10% who develop some issues, later being prob in same risk category as getting flu and developing serious infection.

if in 89sq km city of 14mill total death toll didnt make it past 3k, this puts it 5 times less risky then regular flu as it stands, so panic only for those who are at risk in general and have pre existing conditions seems more like super flu, with rate of above 40% that recover without any complications. as bad as it sounds 1-10 deaths across few countries is peanuts - if media reported live on flu deaths it would be way worse numbers daily.

89 square kilometre?

14 million people?

Everything in this post is ill-informed rubbish

gozunda · 01-03-2020 03:50PM

scamalert wrote: »

according to real sources its more like 10% who develop some issues, later being prob in same risk category as getting flu and developing serious infection.

if in 89sq km city of 14mill total death toll didnt make it past 3k, this puts it 5 times less risky then regular flu as it stands, so panic only for those who are at risk in general and have pre existing conditions seems more like super flu, with rate of above 40% that recover without any complications. as bad as it sounds 1-10 deaths across few countries is peanuts - if media reported live on flu deaths it would be way worse numbers daily.

Which 'real sources'?

Current stats show that of the recorded 42,012 currently Infected (live) patients worldwide - 82% have a Mild Condition of the illness and 18% are deemed to be Serious or Critical.

Currently cases of coronavirus are increasing worldwide and we are only at the very beginning of the year. And yes the death rate at approx 2% is already significantly above the death rate for influenza.

megabomberman · 01-03-2020 03:50PM

scamalert wrote: »

if in 89sq km city of 14mill total death toll didnt make it past 3k, this puts it 5 times less risky then regular flu as it stands

Caveat: 3k after being allowed to spread for 3 weeks after which a science fiction dystopia was visited on the residents of Wuhan to contain the spread.

Scam alert indeed

bb12 · 01-03-2020 03:50PM

wakka12 wrote: »

The most peculiar thing about this outbreak has to be the stubborn insistence by a large proportion of the population that this is somehow milder than flu when there is no evidence that that is true

i think it's a basic fear thing. not many people are the "face into your fear" types so they choose to ignore or play down any potential threats in their lives. most of the time that will probably work out for them but not always.

circadian · 01-03-2020 03:50PM

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

In other matters the whole partition thing is sordid, i am disillusioned by it. People in Derry could be riddled with a virus but the southerners would only care if it crossed into Inishowen. A messed up island.

What on earth are you talking about? Derry and Inishowen are practically one and the same. Most of my mates that I grew up with in Derry live in Muff, Bridgend, Buncrana. You know, Inishowen. The amount of people crossing the border both ways each day for work is massive. If there's an outbreak in the area partition would have no ****ing effect

Jesus I've read some stupid stuff on this thread but this is smacking of absolute ignorance.

01-03-2020 03:51PM

scamalert wrote: »

a bit like those flat earth lunatics at this point, cant do basic maths, but sure enough few pics or videos will get em pumped up. if china 1.3 bill, has fatalities of 3k, what does that translate into % wise, as personally besides seeing it as more agressive strain of flu, number wise its 0.0000003% mortality rate - that's actual reality based on actual data, not some extremist nut case, reading **** on twitter.

Applying the statistics as much as knowing how to make the calculations is just as much as what it is about.

CinemaGuy45 · 01-03-2020 03:51PM

scamalert wrote: »

a bit like those flat earth lunatics at this point, cant do basic maths, but sure enough few pics or videos will get em pumped up. if china 1.3 bill, has fatalities of 3k, what does that translate into % wise, as personally besides seeing it as more agressive strain of flu, number wise its 0.0000003% mortality rate - that's actual reality based on actual data, not some extremist nut case, reading **** on twitter.

Don't diss the flat earth more and more people from all around the Globe are becoming members of this movement.;)

igCorcaigh · 01-03-2020 03:52PM

Strazdas wrote: »

The cases in Italy rapidly spread because nobody knew the virus was even present in the country.....authorities only became aware after dozens were already infected.

Agreed, which is why we should be testing and enforcing limiting movement of people right now.

Sounds crazy, doesn't it?
Welcome to 2020.

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP