Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP

khalessi · 01-03-2020 03:19PM

Everyone keeps saying over reaction. We have just one confirmed case but look how quickly in places like italy, france, uk ,Korea one went to hundreds.

Act now in the public interest, act early stamp it out before it gets a grip.

Dotsie~tmp · 01-03-2020 03:20PM

I kissed two women with runny noses in the disco last night. How fuçked am I lads?

Mwengwe · 01-03-2020 03:20PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Bags of rice is Aldi 99c I have seen people on the dole smoke how much is a pack of 20? €12 thats six bags of rice a couple of muti-pack beans and a few cans of tuna.

Yes thank you I'm sure people on a budget are aware of how cheap things are in Aldi

lawred2 · 01-03-2020 03:20PM

khalessi wrote: »

Everyone keeps saying over reaction. We have just one confirmed case but look how quickly in places like italy, france, uk ,Korea one went to hundreds.

Act now in the public interest, act early stamp it out before it gets a grip.

How?

ZX7R · 01-03-2020 03:21PM

adam88 wrote: »

Closed cases has finally surpassed active cases for the first time. I wonder are we in the burnout out stage of it

Second day running, good news yes.
But when I see the same everyday till next Sunday then the curve will start to drop

fly_agaric · 01-03-2020 03:21PM

fritzelly wrote: »

40 pages to catch up on and still full of whatsapp/twitter/rumour mill junk

Only skimming, but I didn't see any more tinfoil-hattery about Chinese bio-weapons in this incarnation of the thread so a slight improvement from a low base!

Sierra Oscar · 01-03-2020 03:22PM

Strazdas wrote: »

Not that close.....it's still a two mile route.

You could argue that Croker on a Saturday evening is a bigger health risk.

I don't think the parade will be cancelled anyway. We're not like France or Italy which have had dozens of actual confirmed cases.

Ah it’s fairly jam packed in and around the city centre part of the route in fairness. People are hemmed in and pedestrian flow is regulated by Garda checkpoints.

Away With The Fairies · 01-03-2020 03:22PM

The UK is talking about shutting down cities. What would that entail?

Drumpot · 01-03-2020 03:22PM

Strazdas wrote: »

There are no plans to cancel it from what I've heard. We are nowhere near the stage of it being deemed a public health risk. There are huge numbers of people in town every day of the week, never mind St.Patrick's Day.

You see I don’t get this logic on any level. It also concerns me because if there if the authorities are still wondering whether or not that parade should go ahead, they are not really fully preparing for a crisis. I can’t think of anything more irresponsible for our authority’s to proceed with at this stage. My guess is they will cancel it but are hoping people will get more used to the idea as the week progresses so Won’t be as surprised. Almost let public get Normalised to our situation before confirming it.

The word “hot spot” comes to mind. I was reading about patient 31 in China who infected over a thousand people because they failed to take precautions when they could of really helped stop the spread. https://graphics.reuters.com/CHINA-HEALTH-SOUTHKOREA-CLUSTERS/0100B5G33SB/index.html

What is the economic impact and impact of future Patrick’s day parades if this proves to be a horribly misjudged decision (to allow it to proceed)? If we have the parade and numbers spike, there will uproar. If schools are eventually closed after the parade It will equally make the parade look a bad call. I’d nearly wonder if they might have the parade more to put on a “everything is grand” show of force which is ridiculous. Why bother cancelling anything if you are going to have hundreds of thousands of people gathering in a close proximity, many of whom will fly in from other countries.

Professor Moriarty · 01-03-2020 03:22PM

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

I kissed two women with runny noses in the disco last night. How fuçked am I lads?

You're fine. Adolescents are rarely affected.

Strazdas · 01-03-2020 03:23PM

khalessi wrote: »

Everyone keeps saying over reaction. We have just one confirmed case but look how quickly in places like italy, france, uk ,Korea one went to hundreds.

Act now in the public interest, act early stamp it out before it gets a grip.

The cases in Italy rapidly spread because nobody knew the virus was even present in the country.....authorities only became aware after dozens were already infected.

Deep Thought · 01-03-2020 03:23PM

gmisk wrote: »

Complete and utter rubbish.
The clear indication is that it kills far more people per infection than the flu virus
Possibly 2 percent versus the general figure of 0.1% for the flu.

CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season.

odyssey06 · 01-03-2020 03:24PM

Strazdas wrote: »

They have to go with 'actual' health risk, not perceived one. If you shut down the parade, then you also have to close Croke Park, the Aviva, the 3 Arena, the Tallaght Stadium and everywhere else (why target the parade only?)

The numbers at O'Connell Street parade dwarf all of those venues.

Croke Park games don't have international aspect.
They did shut down the Aviva!

France has shut enclosed gatherings of more than 5000 people - that'd shut the 3Arena.

Dotsie~tmp · 01-03-2020 03:24PM

lawred2 wrote: »

How?

RWDS when?

cj maxx · 01-03-2020 03:25PM

I haven't been panicking about cvid 19. Should I really go out for tinned food, hand sanitizer and God knows what else ?

joe40 · 01-03-2020 03:26PM

khalessi wrote: »

Everyone keeps saying over reaction. We have just one confirmed case but look how quickly in places like italy, france, uk ,Korea one went to hundreds.

Act now in the public interest, act early stamp it out before it gets a grip.

What would you say we as a country should be doing that we're not doing.

Fr_Dougal · 01-03-2020 03:26PM

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

I kissed two women with runny noses in the disco last night. How fuçked am I lads?

Sounds like you only got the shift.

Away With The Fairies · 01-03-2020 03:26PM

Strazdas wrote: »

The cases in Italy rapidly spread because nobody knew the virus was even present in the country.....authorities only became aware after dozens were already infected.

How do we know not more people are infected here? Going around thinking it's a bad case of the common cold?

blade1 · 01-03-2020 03:27PM

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

I kissed two women with runny noses in the disco last night. How fuçked am I lads?

You're ok,they can't get pregnant from kissing.

CinemaGuy45 · 01-03-2020 03:27PM

Broadway Joe wrote: »

This virus kills such a small percentage of those infected, even less than the flu virus, I think it is being blown way out of proportion.

Rob A. Bank · 01-03-2020 03:28PM

joe40 wrote: »

What would you say we as a country should be doing that we're not doing.

Do what the World Health Organization's China report recommends :

For countries with imported cases and/or outbreaks of COVID-19

1. Immediately activate the highest level of national Response Management protocols to ensure the all-of-government and all-of-society approach needed to contain COVID-19 with non-pharmaceutical public health measures;

2. Prioritize active, exhaustive case finding and immediate testing and isolation, painstaking contact tracing and rigorous quarantine of close contacts;

3. Fully educate the general public on the seriousness of COVID-19 and their role in preventing its spread;

4. Immediately expand surveillance to detect COVID-19 transmission chains, by testing all patients with atypical pneumonias, conducting screening in some patients with upper respiratory illnesses and/or recent COVID-19 exposure, and adding testing for the COVID-19 virus to existing surveillance systems (e.g. systems for influenza-like-illness and SARI);

5. Conduct multi-sector scenario planning and simulations for the deployment of even more stringent measures to interrupt transmission chains as needed (e.g. the suspension of large-scale gatherings and the closure of schools and workplaces).

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

Away With The Fairies · 01-03-2020 03:28PM

cjmc wrote: »

I haven't been panicking about cvid 19. Should I really go out for tinned food, hand sanitizer and God knows what else ?

Going by the video a few pages ahead, hand washing is the most important thing to be doing here. If you can't get to a sink to wash hands, hand sanitizer would be a help. Stocking up on tinned food is a bit much at this stage.

harr · 01-03-2020 03:28PM

Quick question our child has underlying health issues cardiovascular and weak immune system due a number of surgeries over the last few years .. the latest update from WHO has advised people at risk stay away from crowds and areas where they might get infected.
So he has a number of hospital appointments this week going some appointments we are waiting on a long time .. so far HSE are saying to continue and attend all appointments as normal.
We are terrified of him picking up something so what to do .. keep him at home and miss appointments and go back to bottom of waiting list or risk attending a crowded hospital..

Strazdas · 01-03-2020 03:29PM

Drumpot wrote: »

You see I don’t get this logic on any level. It also concerns me because if there if the authorities are still wondering whether or not that parade should go ahead, they are but really fully preparing for a crisis.

The word “hot spot” comes to mind. I was reading about patient 31 in China who infected over a thousand people because they failed to take precautions when they could of really helped stop the spread. https://graphics.reuters.com/CHINA-HEALTH-SOUTHKOREA-CLUSTERS/0100B5G33SB/index.html

What is the economic impact and impact of future Patrick’s day parades if this proves to be a horribly misjudged decision (to allow it to proceed)? If we have the parade and numbers spike, there will uproar. If schools are eventually closed after the parade It will equally make the parade look a bad call. I’d nearly wonder if they might have the parade more to put on a “everything is grand” show of force which is ridiculous. Why bother cancelling anything if you are going to have hundreds of thousands of people gathering in a close proximity, many of whom will fly in from other countries.

Banning the parade would seem like nothing more than a sop to the 'hysterical overreaction' brigade (who have zero medical knowledge). Besides, the HSE expert who was questioned about the parade today on radio didn't seem to be leaning in that direction. He appeared to imply that they would only move to take such a drastic step if the situation dramatically worsened.

r93kaey5p2izun · 01-03-2020 03:29PM

Deep Thought wrote: »

CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season.

So less than 0.01% fatality rate. Much lower than this appears to have. And a much much lower hospitalization rate at less than 1.5%.

ChikiChiki · 01-03-2020 03:30PM

cjmc wrote: »

I haven't been panicking about cvid 19. Should I really go out for tinned food, hand sanitizer and God knows what else ?

Look at all the evidence and facts at hand and make your own decision. That probably is not helpful but you should be able to weigh up the risk accordingly.

Think about the HSE advice, and if you needed to quarantine for a few weeks. This could be because a colleague became unwell or any other number of reasons.

gmisk · 01-03-2020 03:31PM

Deep Thought wrote: »

CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season.

That's nice...
What does it have to do with the possible death per infection percentage?
Absolutely nothing, maybe read my post and other people's responses to that person's nonsense post

brick tamland · 01-03-2020 03:31PM

harr wrote: »

Quick question our child has underlying health issues cardiovascular and weak immune system due a number of surgeries over the last few years .. the latest update from WHO has advised people at risk stay away from crowds and areas where they might get infected.
So he has a number of hospital appointments this week going some appointments we are waiting on a long time .. so far HSE are saying to continue and attend all appointments as normal.
We are terrified of him picking up something so what to do .. keep him at home and miss appointments and go back to bottom of waiting list or risk attending a crowded hospital..

Call ahead and ask doctor's do what they recommend

Dont get advice off internet forums

gozunda · 01-03-2020 03:32PM

Broadway Joe wrote: »

This virus kills such a small percentage of those infected, even less than the flu virus, I think it is being blown way out of proportion.

Again the current death rate of approx 2% whilst high compared to other infections is not the only serious concern.

20% of all those who contract the Coronavirus go on to develop complications which require medical intervention up to and include intubatiion and ventilation which is a significant cause of concern.

It is this and the very serious impacts the virus will have on an already overstretched health system. It would appear that frontline medical staff are also at higher risk based on reported death rates from China.

joe40 · 01-03-2020 03:32PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Do what the World Health Organization's China report recommends :

For countries with imported cases and/or outbreaks of COVID-19

1. Immediately activate the highest level of national Response Management protocols to ensure the all-of-government and all-of-society approach needed to contain COVID-19 with non-pharmaceutical public health measures;

2. Prioritize active, exhaustive case finding and immediate testing and isolation, painstaking contact tracing and rigorous quarantine of close contacts;

3. Fully educate the general public on the seriousness of COVID-19 and their role in preventing its spread;

4. Immediately expand surveillance to detect COVID-19 transmission chains, by testing all patients with atypical pneumonias, conducting screening in some patients with upper respiratory illnesses and/or recent COVID-19 exposure, and adding testing for the COVID-19 virus to existing surveillance systems (e.g. systems for influenza-like-illness and SARI);

5. Conduct multi-sector scenario planning and simulations for the deployment of even more stringent measures to interrupt transmission chains as needed (e.g. the suspension of large-scale gatherings and the closure of schools and workplaces).

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/who-china-joint-mission-on-covid-19-final-report.pdf

That is what we are doing at the moment.

Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! read OP