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Coronavirus Part III - 9 cases across the Island - 503 errors abound!! *read OP*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭VayNiice


    It's common for people in Asia to wear masks? No? If you visit large cities like NY or even London, you'll commonly see Asian people on public transport etc. with face masks. This is before coronavirus.

    So I'd imagine it is a "normal" thing for them over there and they have their personal habits and supply chains in place.

    That is probably why you don't see any shortage of hand-sanitiser or masks there. And there is no panic probably because they can get those things. Whereas here, you probably have difficulty to get them.

    Yes thats why I'm saying things aren't out of the ordinary in Vietnam.

    But there is no reason why there should be a shortage in hand sanitiser already in Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Strazdas wrote: »
    That would be a total overreaction. One confirmed case in the Republic, a man who had been in Italy and no community transmission in Ireland.

    Besides, the Dublin parade is not just a standalone event. The St.Patrick's festival lasts for four days, plus there are parades all the country.

    At the very least it should be rescheduled.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Carol25 wrote: »
    I’m concerned about the spread in schools. The dose before Christmas infected everyone in the local school at one stage or another. In a lot of schools, there is no hot water at all. Classes are over crowded and now hand washes are out of stock. The spread if schools become breeding grounds would be enormous...

    To date the current outbreak seems to show no mortality for children under 9 years of age. However there have been cases of children in this age bracket becoming infected - but being mainly asymptomatic or showing mild symptons. Although a number of children were found to have suffered various complications including damage to the lungs

    Of interest children are considered "super-spreaders" of flu and may spread the virus at a rapid rate, posing a particular risk to the elderly and other people at higher risk. This issue may also be a possibility with the novel coronavirus although that has not yet been proven.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    wakka12 wrote: »

    What time does France release its figures for the day?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23 SaltyJohn


    I’m a teacher. At one point before Christmas the vomiting bug ran through the building like wildfire. I had between 11-15 students out of 30 in my tutor group absent every day for a week. As one came back another or more were struck down. I also got it. As did many staff. And that’s with meticulous hand washing. I think at one point we had over 200 kids sick with it. Schools are absolute hot beds of infection.

    That's more than likely norovirus. That's probably a lot more infectious than this - a lot of people get it about 5 times in their lifetime. People get infected with a tiny amount of particles relative to other infections. No doubt this will spread widely but probably in a different way to the common vomiting bugs, so hopefully it won't hit schools as hard as that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭megabomberman


    VayNiice wrote: »
    I haven't been in Ireland in years so no. What I'm saying is that threads like this can do more harm than good by making out as if there is a need for panic and encouraging people to go into Aldi and clear the shelves for themselves. Maybe there are too many people from the tinfoil hat brigade on the thread giving this impression.

    I'm glad to see lots of people disagreeing with me and clarifying that there isn't a panic in Ireland at the moment.

    The problem will be the people who are currently oblivious to what's going on, these people will likely witness the emergence of the virus in a manner similar to Northern Italy in places like Dublin. They'll reflect on the deluded talk of 'low risk' by our supposed experts and not know who to believe or trust, then mass panic will ensue. We are nearly guaranteed an aldi JCB raid again times 10.

    Every uninformed commentator or observer here than can be disabused of the notion that this is akin to a garden variety flu strain is a plus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Candamir


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I heard the opposite, this message is doing the rounds on Wassap.



    My classmate's nephew, graduated with a master's degree, and works in Shenzhen Hospital. He is being transferred to study *Wuhan pneumonia virus.* He just called me and told me to tell my friends: If you have a runny nose and sputum when you have a cold, you cannot be a new type of coronavirus pneumonia, because *coronavirus pneumonia is a dry cough without runny nose*. This is the simplest way to identify. Please tell your friends that if you know more about medical knowledge, you will have more *awareness of identification and prevention.*

    This time, the *Wuhan virus is not heat-resistant and will be killed at a temperature of 26-27 degrees*.

    Therefore, *drink more hot water.* You can tell your friends and relatives to drink more hot water to prevent it. *Go under the Sun*. It has been cold recently, and drinking hot water is also very comfortable. It is not a cure and is good for the body. *Drinking warm water is effective for all viruses*......

    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Which parts are incorrect please? It would be nice to know?


    The 4% ‘runny nose’ cane from the WHO’s field work in China. They found only 4% of confirmed cases had a runny nose as a symptom.

    The info from the ‘friend with the masters’ took a downhill turn when he said the virus was not heat resistant and will be killed at a temp of 26 - 27 degrees.

    Unless he’s made up a completely new temperature scale, all is well as normal body temperature is 37 degrees, and if your body is at 27, you’re already dead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,394 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Strazdas wrote: »
    That would be a total overreaction. One confirmed case in the Republic, a man who had been in Italy and no community transmission in Ireland.
    Besides, the Dublin parade is not just a standalone event. The St.Patrick's festival lasts for four days, plus there are parades all the country.

    I don't know why it's a total overreaction. Seems if you wanted to stage an event likely to lead to enough infections to trigger community transmission, the St Patricks Day parade in Dublin would be it.

    Given both the numbers of international visitors - some from countries which HAVE community transmission - and total overall numbers, the risk is too great.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 Broadway Joe


    This virus kills such a small percentage of those infected, even less than the flu virus, I think it is being blown way out of proportion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,285 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    St Patrick's Day is a huge deal for us in terms of tourism and the economy.

    I hope it can go ahead but I don't see it happening now :(

    There are no plans to cancel it from what I've heard. We are nowhere near the stage of it being deemed a public health risk. There are huge numbers of people in town every day of the week, never mind St.Patrick's Day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭megabomberman


    This virus kills such a small percentage of those infected, even less than the flu virus, I think it is being blown way out of proportion.

    Could you at least read a single tabloid article about this thing before you start spouting rubbish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    This virus kills such a small percentage of those infected, even less than the flu virus, I think it is being blown way out of proportion.

    Source?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,383 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    This virus kills such a small percentage of those infected, even less than the flu virus, I think it is being blown way out of proportion.

    Completely incorrect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭adam88


    Closed cases has finally surpassed active cases for the first time. I wonder are we in the burnout out stage of it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    I would have thought St Patrick’s Day is one of the busiest days for hospitals around the country.

    Why would people think that’s it’s a good idea during this time of unknown?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    This virus kills such a small percentage of those infected, even less than the flu virus, I think it is being blown way out of proportion.

    Kills 20x more than the flu does, flu figures are per year, coronavirus is in month 2 (or 3 from the very onset)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Strazdas wrote: »
    That would be a total overreaction. One confirmed case in the Republic, a man who had been in Italy and no community transmission in Ireland.

    Besides, the Dublin parade is not just a standalone event. The St.Patrick's festival lasts for four days, plus there are parades all the country.

    They postponed St Patrick's Day celebrations in 2001 when the health of cattle and sheep were threatened by Foot and Mouth disease.

    Now that human health is threatened, I can't see it going ahead... unless animal health is more important than human health for the powers that be.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,285 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    odyssey06 wrote: »
    I don't know why it's a total overreaction. Seems if you wanted to stage an event likely to lead to enough infections to trigger community transmission, the St Patricks Day parade in Dublin would be it.

    Given both the numbers of international visitors - some from countries which HAVE community transmission - and total overall numbers, the risk is too great.

    They have to go with 'actual' health risk, not perceived one. If you shut down the parade, then you also have to close Croke Park, the Aviva, the 3 Arena, the Tallaght Stadium and everywhere else (why target the parade only?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0301/1119467-coronavirus-ireland/
    Apparently risk of a coronavirus outbreak in Ireland remains low.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    40 pages to catch up on and still full of whatsapp/twitter/rumour mill junk


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,382 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    This virus kills such a small percentage of those infected, even less than the flu virus, I think it is being blown way out of proportion.
    Complete and utter rubbish.
    The clear indication is that it kills far more people per infection than the flu virus
    Possibly 2 percent versus the general figure of 0.1% for the flu.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    Strazdas wrote: »
    They have to go with 'actual' health risk, not perceived one. If you shut down the parade, then you also have to close Croke Park, the Aviva, the 3 Arena, the Tallaght Stadium and everywhere else (why target the parade only?)


    No problem with that as it would slow infection /transmission rates and hospitals would not be so overwhelmed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    so have we banned flights from italy?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,383 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    adam88 wrote: »
    Closed cases has finally surpassed active cases for the first time. I wonder are we in the burnout out stage of it

    We are at the early stage of it.
    Hopefully the data might start getting more informative, although I fear what that means.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    12 new cases in the UK. Big jump . I'd say Cheltenham is in trouble .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    as another poster mentioned i too had a few friends around that were flattened by the australia flu so to speak, one couple hes runs maratons she teaches yoga were proper fkd after it, both wrecked sweating 3 weeks in total , i just wonder was there any relation even a strain of this that initially came from China the time frame works..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,110 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Our creche insists on sighing kids in and out new Tusla rules apparently, that's about 50 parents using the same biro every morning, I refuse to do it after getting sick a few times in a row. The pen is meant to be the dirtiest thing in the doctors office.
    We didn't get sick as Xmas in this house but most other families in the creche got a dose.

    You could just bring your own pen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,285 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Mr.S wrote: »
    There are huge crowds in close contact for the parade, it's hardly a typical day in the city centre!

    Not that close.....it's still a two mile route.

    You could argue that Croker on a Saturday evening is a bigger health risk.

    I don't think the parade will be cancelled anyway. We're not like France or Italy which have had dozens of actual confirmed cases.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,383 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    gmisk wrote: »
    Complete and utter rubbish.
    The clear indication is that it kills far more people per infection than the flu virus
    Possibly 2 percent versus the general figure of 0.1% for the flu.

    I have reported Mr Joe for stating incorrect facts. Would encourage others to do the same.


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