Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

wdmfapq4zs83hv · 29-02-2020 02:17PM

all about the mane wrote: »

Doom...maybe slightly over egging it

True! Told ya worst case scenario!

iguana · 29-02-2020 02:18PM

I wonder how Covid-19 affects obese/morbidly obese people. Some of the largest mortality rates seem to be in those with heart conditions and obesity/morbid obesity is very closely linked to heart failure.

Rob A. Bank · 29-02-2020 02:20PM

We sometimes look down our noses at the half truths and obfuscation on display from some of the Authoritarian regimes around the world when dealing with this pandemic, but don't be too smug....the leader of the free world is catching up fast.

You could see that when Trump spoke in the White House briefing room, brazenly contradicting the experts by his side. But it’s now become formal policy, with Trump’s insistence that all federal officials – including those with deep scientific expertise – are to say nothing that has not first been authorised by the White House.

Note the fate of Dr Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease.

On Thursday he dared say that “we are dealing with a serious virus” with a higher mortality rate than regular flu. That was deemed insufficiently upbeat for the great leader. According to the New York Times, “Dr Fauci has told associates that the White House had instructed him not to say anything else without clearance.”

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/feb/28/coronavirus-donald-trump-truth-president

*sigh

Fleetwoodmac · 29-02-2020 02:21PM

cnocbui wrote: »

That's rather what I would have thought, so no good for DIY hand sanitzing.

We have a bottle of polish vodka here @ 90 %... suppose depends on brand. Failing that... time to brew the poitin

fr336 · 29-02-2020 02:21PM

I need positivity. So all those people who might have annoyed me a week ago, please post a list about why we will be fine.

fr336 · 29-02-2020 02:25PM

wadacrack wrote: »

That's an extremely narcissistic view of looking at it

That's the younger generation, of which I am one (born in late 80s). It's not our fault. We were brought up being told we could have anything we wanted in life and how we were the centre of the universe. We do care about others, but when push comes to shove it's all about us.

zig · 29-02-2020 02:27PM

Sore throat today, I have now become a fully fledged hypochondriac.

4068ac1elhodqr · 29-02-2020 02:29PM

iguana wrote: »

I wonder how Covid-19 affects obese/morbidly obese people. Some of the largest mortality rates seem to be in those with heart conditions and obesity/morbid obesity is very closely linked to heart failure.

Surely that's a given by defualt. Anyone over 20stone or whatever, will have a reduced life expectancy (-10/20yrs) right from the getgo regardless, even without the WuFlu. If the big singer Adele can loose 7st in 3mths, anyone can do it.

Deaths were at least five times more common among people with diabetes, high blood pressure or heart or breathing problems.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51674743

Is anyone that smokes regular cigs still not considering giving up?
Nico patches or even hypnosis mp3s should be a priority consideration for you. Vape things perhaps not as bad, but still not an ideal habit.

BorneTobyWilde · 29-02-2020 02:30PM

Strange to see the Iranian Mp die with all the resources he'd have had to survive. If he died
anyone of us could.

Professor Moriarty · 29-02-2020 02:30PM

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

My 1918/19 figures of 2.6% relate to Ireland which indeed made it one of the less lethal places which were affected the Spanish flu. About 20% of the population here were infected.

We still have "no vaccines or antibiotics" or even antivirals for the present epidemic.

Many people who died of the Spansih Flu would not have died if vaccines and antibiotics had existed. Similar to the Coronavirus, the high mortality rate would have been because of preexisting health problems. Healthy people are much more likely to survive. Which is why vaccines and antibiotics are so important.

fr336 · 29-02-2020 02:31PM

Was always interested how smokers were never shamed anywhere near as much as overweight people. It's not as easy to lecture smokers and feel superior. Anyway...

spurious · 29-02-2020 02:31PM

creditcarder wrote: »

I imagine the virus has a lower fatility rate than 2 percent as most people seem to be unaffected.

Not that a virus thinks, but it is not in its best interest to kill the host.

scamalert · 29-02-2020 02:32PM

some people cant live their lives and need paranoia it seems or are natural at that, like crap with anti waxxer morons, if this has higher rater mortality of flu i can live with that, its here already more or less, few wans saying they will prepare makes me laugh, if it spreads will be more of natural selection.

but back to reality, the actual numbers are barely above 3 thousand dead world wide, if it was as bad as some make it to be, that number should have few more zeros, yet as time goes it seems slowed down.

theres prob more each day dying in china from air pollution and crap conditions and likes of Iran getting couple drone strikes wipes out more in a day, then this crap so far did in month or two.

BorneTobyWilde · 29-02-2020 02:32PM

https://twitter.com/GerardO60243595/status/1233744968986038272

Titclamp · 29-02-2020 02:33PM

Saanvi Square Pumpernickel wrote: »

Reading this thread the last few days. I am a natural worrier, can't help it. I automatically jump to worst case scenario. All kinds of things go through my mind, mainly can i protect my kids from this? What if Myself and partner die, what will happen them? See? Worst case scenario!

Anyway what I wanted to say is , although we all need to take this seriously and take necessary precautions, I am so very grateful for the sense of humour here too. I love how we as a nation do that in the face of doom, it's so important. And also to take breaks from this thread every now and then , do something normal to get some headspace from all the worry. We will get through this.

Meditate.

giveitholly · 29-02-2020 02:33PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GerardO60243595/status/1233744968986038272

Stag do?

fr336 · 29-02-2020 02:34PM

scamalert wrote: »

some people cant live their lives and need paranoia it seems or are natural at that, like crap with anti waxxer morons, if this has higher rater mortality of flu i can live with that, its here already more or less, few wans saying they will prepare makes me laugh, if it spreads will be more of natural selection.

but back to reality, the actual numbers are barely above 3 thousand dead world wide, if it was as bad as some make it to be, that number should have few more zeros, yet as time goes it seems slowed down.

theres prob more each day dying in china from air pollution and crap conditions and likes of Iran getting couple drone strikes wipes out more in a day, then this crap so far did in month or two.

China have locked up millions of people to avoid spread. Pollution isn't too bad in Ireland. Nor are there drone strikes.

scotchy · 29-02-2020 02:35PM

zig wrote: »

Sore throat today, I have now become a fully fledged hypochondriac.

I picked up a cough yesterday, I should really stop following this thread until its cleared up.

.

4068ac1elhodqr · 29-02-2020 02:36PM

scamalert wrote: »

yet as time goes it seems slowed down..

Not anywhere outside of China. S.Kor reported 800 new cases yesterday.

branie2 · 29-02-2020 02:36PM

I have a cough as well

bmcc10 · 29-02-2020 02:36PM

scamalert wrote: »

theres prob more each day dying in china from air pollution and crap conditions and likes of Iran getting couple drone strikes wipes out more in a day, then this crap so far did in month or two.

Nonsense post these are things that have always exsisted are known and are genrally controlled by humans.

This is a virus totally unexpected and unknown.

29-02-2020 02:36PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Just drink it instead.

This reminds me of a 1979 holiday I enjoyed with my cousin in Russia. She sprained her ankle and attended the doctor who advised using vodka to pour over the ankle as a cooling agent as it would evaporate. We were in accommodation without access to ice, snd without air conditioning, so this was his best practical suggestion to help reduce swelling. Instead of putting it on her ankle she said “to hell with the ankle, I’m going to kill the pain this way instead” as she drank it.

BanditLuke · 29-02-2020 02:36PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Luke do you think anything in the country is good ? You are one of the most negative posters I’ve seen recently. Complete negativity to everything. That much negativity is bad for your health.

Yeah loads of good stuff. LOI football (seasons back guys go support your local side once this thing blows over), beautiful mountains, beautiful beaches, great pubs, restaurants etc... I love nothing more than throwing my camping gear onto the back of my motorbike and heading off for a fishing trip for the weekend when the weather allows. Love this country.

Yeah there negatives of course but for me no competition between Ireland and somewhere like America or the middle east for example.

This thread is about something very serious though let's not pretend it's not. If you have a problem with my posting there is a report button on each post.

Regards, Luke

Titclamp · 29-02-2020 02:38PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

https://twitter.com/GerardO60243595/status/1233744968986038272

Looks like a family bought a load of them suits off the internet and going for a lovely walk in galway

scamalert · 29-02-2020 02:40PM

fr336 wrote: »

China have locked up millions of people to avoid spread. Pollution isn't too bad in Ireland. Nor are there drone strikes.

im talking actual stats - numbers just not adding up, yes few died in other countries, but by the looks of it if its that bad china would have deaths in millions, as 3k wordwide is grain of sand, given how populated the wutan city was its like 14 people to single person in Dublin in way smaller space, and given migration it should be everywhere there but it aint. And yes all the crap how china hides everything etc, but with social media these days, youd see proper outcomes if it was worse, but atm it seems more like staged or whatever made up ****e being posted daily, that only paranoid one like to pick.

Titclamp · 29-02-2020 02:40PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Yeah loads of good stuff. LOI football (seasons back guys go support your local side once this thing blows over), beautiful mountains, beautiful beaches, great pubs, restaurants etc... I love nothing more than throwing my camping gear onto the back of my motorbike and heading off for a fishing trip for the weekend when the weather allows. Love this country.

Yeah there negatives of course but for me no competition between Ireland and somewhere like America or the middle east for example.

This thread is about something very serious though let's not pretend it's not. If you have a problem with my posting there is a report button on each post.

Regards, Luke

You're positivity is having a negative effect on me.

blade1 · 29-02-2020 02:44PM

blade1 wrote: »

Well I'm off to Lidl for some hand gel.
Hope my bum doesn't look too big in this

Back from my local Lidl and they had no hand gel or gloves.
Not to leave in a state of total desperation, I decided to arm myself with a load of crisps, chocolate, biscuits and coke for the upcoming self containment.

iguana · 29-02-2020 02:45PM

zig wrote: »

Sore throat today, I have now become a fully fledged hypochondriac.

Sore throat and sinus issues are usually a sign of an upper respiratory tract infection or an allergy. Covid-19 is most probably a lower respiratory tract infection. So while people with Covid-19 can have a sore throat and blocked/runny sinuses, they aren't likely to be the first symptoms.

tara73 · 29-02-2020 02:45PM

spurious wrote: »

Not that a virus thinks, but it is not in its best interest to kill the host.

I think this is a good point for all here who ask for positive news...:D no, seriously, it is like that, viruses don't want to kill their hosts because they aim to survive too (with the host). afaik that's why they mutate and mostly loosing their severity with time.

that's also why it's important to gain time in spreading trying to contain it.

froog · 29-02-2020 02:45PM

fr336 wrote: »

Was always interested how smokers were never shamed anywhere near as much as overweight people. It's not as easy to lecture smokers and feel superior. Anyway...

are you serious? i get told at least a few times a week to "give them up they'll kill yeah" "disgusting habit" etc in work and from friends/relatives. some workplaces are even getting rid of smoking sheds altogether. some entire cities are doing the same. some of those radio anti smoking ads are absolutely horrible - the one with the dad finding his daughters fags and feeling guilty.

if someone fat shamed someone in my work they would likely be fired or be talked to seriously by HR.

Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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