Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

hmmm · 28-02-2020 10:43AM

tara73 wrote: »

this reinfection is really worrying me.

https://www.inkstonenews.com/health/hiv-mutation-makes-covid-19-more-infectious-sars-scientists-say/article/3052617

they called it Sars2 but it was clear very early it has some major differences to Sars1.
this development is scary, possibility there it is more like HIV and staying forever in the body. would explain, the 'reinfections' which would be no reinfections but another flare up. Obviously speculation at this point, can't find any good discussion forums about it, are here still any people with some kind of professional knowledge? probably asking too much as the experts in the world don't know yet...

There is no evidence for this, and this is just a scare story until it is confirmed. A few weeks ago everyone thought asymptomatic people were spreading like crazy, and this isn't the case either.

Nijmegen · 28-02-2020 10:44AM

pc7 wrote: »

Bloody hell the welsh case is an Italian source too, it really is like that Italian area was a hotbed.

It has reached as far as Finland and Wales from Italy. Hard to believe there's just one case in NI floating around. Luck of the Irish if so.

Kermit.de.frog · 28-02-2020 10:45AM

What's the story with the Welsh, I have to be reminded every year that the place exists.

Strange place. They need to break away from the English

SafeSurfer · 28-02-2020 10:46AM

Increasingly likely that St. Patrick’s Day celebrations and other major events will be cancelled or curtailed. This was the case during the foot and mouth outbreak in 2001.
If anyone remembers that period there were daily emergency meetings, news conferences and dedicated TV news programmes about foot and mouth each night

Massive Garda presence, disinfecting at border and ports. This was for a bovine disease.

pc7 · 28-02-2020 10:46AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Only fair for eh, clarification purposes

Yes, the poor man looked, well em, I needed to be sure

Dotsie~tmp · 28-02-2020 10:46AM

celt262 wrote: »

Do they know how the virus got into Italy ?

Its mutated. Latest electron microscope image of the virus.

hmmm · 28-02-2020 10:46AM

Nijmegen wrote: »

I see the practicalities are already beginning to dawn on people - like what happens re pay in an outbreak. It feels like the government doesn't want to say anything lest it gets put on the hook for covering the bills,

The government are going to have to open the chequebook, and soon.

If people are quarantined, the government should be paying.

Good companies are going to fail if demand collapses, and they should be propped up until this passes. Similarly the travel, tourism sectors are going to be badly affected.

The ECB could help here by providing ultra-cheap money to governments.

yourdeadwright · 28-02-2020 10:50AM

Nijmegen wrote: »

It has reached as far as Finland and Wales from Italy. Hard to believe there's just one case in NI floating around. Luck of the Irish if so.

Reached Nigeria from Italy to

SafeSurfer · 28-02-2020 10:50AM

hmmm wrote: »

The government are going to have to open the chequebook, and soon.

If people are quarantined, the government should be paying.

Good companies are going to fail if demand collapses, and they should be propped up until this passes. Similarly the travel, tourism sectors are going to be badly affected.

The ECB could help here by providing ultra-cheap money to governments.

Money can’t get much cheaper. There is very little stimulus left in Europe or the states.

givyjoe · 28-02-2020 10:51AM

Dotsie~tmp wrote: »

Its mutated. Latest electron microscope image of the virus.

Looks delicious.

wadacrack · 28-02-2020 10:51AM

tara73 wrote: »

this reinfection is really worrying me.

https://www.inkstonenews.com/health/hiv-mutation-makes-covid-19-more-infectious-sars-scientists-say/article/3052617

they called it Sars2 but it was clear very early it has some major differences to Sars1.
this development is scary, possibility there it is more like HIV and staying forever in the body. would explain, the 'reinfections' which would be no reinfections but another flare up. Obviously speculation at this point, can't find any good discussion forums about it, are here still any people with some kind of professional knowledge? probably asking too much as the experts in the world don't know yet...

It could still be the antibodies(may take weeks to clear) that are present without any symptoms/ Thats the opinion of one expert

BanditLuke · 28-02-2020 10:52AM

hmmm wrote: »

The government are going to have to open the chequebook, and soon.

If people are quarantined, the government should be paying.

Good companies are going to fail if demand collapses, and they should be propped up until this passes. Similarly the travel, tourism sectors are going to be badly affected.

The ECB could help here by providing ultra-cheap money to governments.

Said it weeks back this would happen and a plan shoould be put in place for employees left out of pocket as well as small business owners. Since then as expected zero has been done.

josip · 28-02-2020 10:52AM

Now that it's in Northern Ireland I hope the Gardai are keeping an eye on Slab Murphy so that he doesn't f*** up the country this time around.

old_aussie · 28-02-2020 10:54AM

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

Would you lot **** off with your political talk!

Been thinking that myself, thought this thread was about coronavirus. my mistake

snowgal · 28-02-2020 10:54AM

pc7 wrote: »

I got caught with a link saying first reports and when you click it it was quite rude I had to click a second time to be sure

me too!

tara73 · 28-02-2020 10:55AM

hmmm wrote: »

There is no evidence for this, and this is just a scare story until it is confirmed. A few weeks ago everyone thought asymptomatic people were spreading like crazy, and this isn't the case either.

that's what I said in my post.

I asked people who work in the field and might have something of value/professional aspects to say to what I wrote.

Titclamp · 28-02-2020 10:55AM

This is gas

wakka12 · 28-02-2020 10:55AM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1233321520971309057?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1233321520971309057&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Ffas6q2%3Fresponsive%3Dtrue%26is_nightmode%3Dfalse

Mwengwe · 28-02-2020 10:58AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Yeah it's all his fault :pac:

Rent free

Awww are people picking on your friend

Kermit.de.frog · 28-02-2020 10:58AM

The Death Cruise

the butcher · 28-02-2020 10:59AM

TomSweeney · 28-02-2020 11:00AM

hmmm wrote: »

There is no evidence for this, and this is just a scare story until it is confirmed. A few weeks ago everyone thought asymptomatic people were spreading like crazy, and this isn't the case either.

Really ?

I'd like to believe this, but how else can the massive explosions in S. Korea and Italy be explained ?

BanditLuke · 28-02-2020 11:01AM

Mwengwe wrote: »

Awww are people picking on your friend

Lol if you'd read my posts you'd see i can't stand the big buffoon, but hey your new so i'll cut you some slack

Kermit.de.frog · 28-02-2020 11:03AM

TomSweeney wrote: »

Really ?

I'd like to believe this, but how else can the massive explosions in S. Korea and Italy be explained ?

Partly the most problematic is said to be those with no symptoms spreading the virus. That's what I read unless someone has newer information.

Dyr · 28-02-2020 11:04AM

Can the mods not just ban the witless gob****es who spam the thread with their **** sense of humour?

It wouldnt be so bad if they were actually funny, but jesus its woeful stuff

"Any one got a cold? ha ha, wha? A cold, geddit? ha ha. The virus wha? ha ha"

BanditLuke · 28-02-2020 11:05AM

The Iran situation is interesting. The majority of Iran's cases have been linked to Qom, a major religious destination for Shiite pilgrims 85 miles south of Tehran.” It is also within thirty miles of Iran’s nuclear “research” facility, staffed by numerous scientists from mainland China.

Loafing Oaf · 28-02-2020 11:05AM

pc7 wrote: »

Bloody hell the welsh case is an Italian source too, it really is like that Italian area was a hotbed.

You wonder if the initial European hotbed had been in a more 'socially responsible' country like Denmark, would the virus have spread so far so fast. If I was from Lombardy I'd like to think I'd be putting off any foreign travel, even if I wasn't showing any signs of the illness.

s7ryf3925pivug · 28-02-2020 11:06AM

tara73 wrote: »

this reinfection is really worrying me.

https://www.inkstonenews.com/health/hiv-mutation-makes-covid-19-more-infectious-sars-scientists-say/article/3052617

they called it Sars2 but it was clear very early it has some major differences to Sars1.
this development is scary, possibility there it is more like HIV and staying forever in the body. would explain, the 'reinfections' which would be no reinfections but another flare up. Obviously speculation at this point, can't find any good discussion forums about it, are here still any people with some kind of professional knowledge? probably asking too much as the experts in the world don't know yet...

I don't think it's uncommon for viruses to stay in the body. Chicken pox stays in the body. It can reemerge as shingles in adults which can be much more dangerous.
Herpes including cold sores stays in the body and reemerges when the immune system is weak.

gozunda · 28-02-2020 11:07AM

givyjoe wrote: »

Looks delicious.

Looks like mince with some (badly photoshopped) mushrooms tbh ...

one armed dwarf · 28-02-2020 11:08AM

Bambi wrote: »

Can the mods not just ban the witless gob****es who spam the thread with their **** sense of humour?

It wouldnt be so bad if they were actually funny, but jesus its woeful stuff

"Any one got a cold? ha ha, wha? A cold, geddit? ha ha. The virus wha? ha ha"

Yeah this thread used to be a good way to keep informed, taken over by alarmists and unfunny comedians.

(The picture of cases at an airport was pretty funny tho ngl)

Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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