Will you travel? [Mod Note in Post #1 - Travel Discussion Only! Megathread]

Mrcaramelchoc · 27-02-2020 9:33am #1

Are you traveling outside of Ireland in the next few weeks?will you go now because the coronavirus is getting worse or will you cancel?
Im due to go to prague in 2 weeks and i don't know if i should?

Mod: It has been suggested to merge this with the main Corona thread, but I think a dedicated thread about travel has merit. If it becomes too much like the main thread, I'll just merge the two.

Irishphotodesk · 27-02-2020 9:37am

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Are you traveling outside of Ireland in the next few weeks?will you go now because the coronavirus is getting worse or will you cancel?
Im due to go to prague in 2 weeks and i don't know if i should?

Having paid 3.5k for a family holiday in June .... I'm going !! (Should be grand !)

El_Duderino 09 · 27-02-2020 9:39am

Mrcaramelchoc wrote: »

Are you traveling outside of Ireland in the next few weeks?will you go now because the coronavirus is getting worse or will you cancel?
Im due to go to prague in 2 weeks and i don't know if i should?

Same as that. Going to Kraków in 2 weeks. I couldn’t give A shyte about coronavirus. Greatest load of nonsense I’ve ever seen and I think it’s just a celebrity version of the flu.

If you have respiratory problems or are old or infirm, then think again. But if you’re young and healthy, go to Prague and have a nice time.

I’ve heard they drive like mad over in Eastern Europe so I’d keep an eye out for that as it’s a real concern.

TheRepentent · 27-02-2020 9:41am

Yeah hopefully , going to the Canaries Islands at the end of the month .

MonkeyTennis · 27-02-2020 9:41am

Going to the Canaries on Tuesday. Yep.

Boggles · 27-02-2020 9:45am

I'll be going Antarctica this year.

lozenges · 27-02-2020 9:49am

Booked flights to France yesterday!

MarkY91 · 27-02-2020 9:51am

Off to Singapore in a few weeks. Only thing stopping me is a travel ban. You're at risk no matter where in the world you are. That risk itself is extremely low anyway. Then even if yo udo contract the virus, your chances of dying as extremely low.

NIMAN · 27-02-2020 9:57am

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Same as that. Going to Kraków in 2 weeks. I couldn’t give A shyte about coronavirus. Greatest load of nonsense I’ve ever seen and I think it’s just a celebrity version of the flu.

If you have respiratory problems or are old or infirm, then think again. But if you’re young and healthy, go to Prague and have a nice time.

I’ve heard they drive like mad over in Eastern Europe so I’d keep an eye out for that as it’s a real concern.

Enjoyed that.

stargazer 68 · 27-02-2020 9:59am

Yep. Off to Paris in a couple of weeks then to the UK and then the Canaries. Unless we are specifically told not to travel then Im packing my bags!

gmisk · 27-02-2020 10:01am

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Same as that. Going to Kraków in 2 weeks. I couldn’t give A shyte about coronavirus. Greatest load of nonsense I’ve ever seen and I think it’s just a celebrity version of the flu.

If you have respiratory problems or are old or infirm, then think again. But if you’re young and healthy, go to Prague and have a nice time.

I’ve heard they drive like mad over in Eastern Europe so I’d keep an eye out for that as it’s a real concern.

It is clearly a lot more serious than the flu.
Pneumonia is no joke.

I have a holiday to Italy booked for mid April contacted hotel and they are letting us delay to later in year will see how things are closer to time.

I'd have no issues going to Prague personally.

Kivaro · 27-02-2020 10:02am

Dovies wrote: »

Yep. Off to Paris in a couple of weeks then to the UK and then the Canaries. Unless we are specifically told not to travel then Im packing my bags!

Can you pack mine too .....

poolboy · 27-02-2020 10:13am

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Same as that. Going to Kraków in 2 weeks. I couldn’t give A shyte about coronavirus. Greatest load of nonsense I’ve ever seen and I think it’s just a celebrity version of the flu.

If you have respiratory problems or are old or infirm, then think again. But if you’re young and healthy, go to Prague and have a nice time.

I’ve heard they drive like mad over in Eastern Europe so I’d keep an eye out for that as it’s a real concern.

Do you have any loved ones who are older or immuno compromised, not saying dont go i think you should as things stand but everyone has a responsibility to protect the vulnerable in communities.

ZiabR · 27-02-2020 10:15am

People seem to be forgetting how you actually get to your holiday destination. You may well be going to an area that has no cases or is very low risk BUT in order to get to your destination you have to pass through what is arguably the biggest cesspit in the world for possible infections (Airports and Planes). To the OP going to Prague, I would have no problem with being in Prague but I wouldn't be going based on the very fact I have to get there using 2 x Airports and 2 x Aircraft.

I am not travelling anywhere for the foreseeable future, while I am not concerned about myself personally, I have young children and elderly parents to think about and it is just not worth the risk. Airports are a MASSIVE risk factor.

facehugger99 · 27-02-2020 10:17am

Thinking of taking a short break in the next couple of months.

i'll be keeping an eye to see if there are any good value price-reductions as a result of the panic-merchants canceling trips.

johnnyfruitcake · 27-02-2020 10:20am

Will travel insurance cover you if you decide not to go or will they only cover if you're not allowed to go?

whisky_galore · 27-02-2020 10:21am

poolboy wrote: »

Do you have any loved ones who are older or immuno compromised, not saying dont go i think you should as things stand but everyone has a responsibility to protect the vulnerable in communities.

Let them off, it's all about self gratification now.

ednwireland · 27-02-2020 10:23am

gmisk wrote: »

It is clearly a lot more serious than the flu.

not for most people actually (dont get me wrong it could jkill you just like the flu but mainly if you have an underlying condition - pretty much what the gp said on morning ireland)

Plumbthedepths · 27-02-2020 10:23am

Heading to Italy in May, mass hysteria at this stage. Seen it with bird flu, swine flu etc. Life's too short to spend time worrying about this crap.
Will happily take another cheap holiday if one becomes available because of Covid 19, silver lining and all that.

riffmongous · 27-02-2020 10:27am

ednwireland wrote: »

not for most people actually (dont get me wrong it could jkill you just like the flu but mainly if you have an underlying condition - pretty much what the gp said on morning ireland)

But again, even if it's not more dangerous for you as a young person, if you get it you will be spreading it to people who it is very dangerous to.

Why don't people get this?

ZiabR · 27-02-2020 10:29am

ednwireland wrote: »

not for most people actually (dont get me wrong it could jkill you just like the flu but mainly if you have an underlying condition - pretty much what the gp said on morning ireland)

It has a mortality rate of 10 times the Flu so it is much more serious. This was discussed at length on Newstalk yesterday.

RocketRaccoon · 27-02-2020 10:29am

Off to London next week, should be ok

joe40 · 27-02-2020 10:35am

riffmongous wrote: »

But again, even if it's not more dangerous for you as a young person if you get it you will be spreading it to people who it is very dangerous to.

Why don't people get this?

Exactly. This is obviously more dangerous than the flu otherwise there would not be the level of concern expressed by the WHO and world governments.

I'm not panicking or scaremongering but it is ridiculous to say this is nothing worse than seasonal flu when it obviously is. The mortality is far higher than the flu.

At the same time I fully realise if you are young and healthy you will probably be fine but you have a moral duty not to be a vector of this disease if at all possible.

q85dw7osi4lebg · 27-02-2020 10:46am

Vancouver / Banff trip in 2 weeks time, flying via the states. Would rather get quarantined in the Rockies than here in Meath.

Ikozma · 27-02-2020 10:53am

I would yea

El_Duderino 09 · 27-02-2020 10:59am

poolboy wrote: »

Do you have any loved ones who are older or immuno compromised, not saying dont go i think you should as things stand but everyone has a responsibility to protect the vulnerable in communities.

Yes I do. And it probably is more serious than I’m taking credit for. But the half measures were taking to deal with it means were actually doing nothing to stop the spread and are doing a bit to make us feel better.

Yesterday we were chatting in work and someone said “but shur, if someone comes into the office who has been in Italy last week, then we’d all have to self quarantine for 2 weeks and work from home. One guy said “yeah, that’s how you stop the spread of a disease like this”. And she went on to say that then her children would have to stay home from school for 2 weeks and the guy said “yeah, that’s how you stop the spread of a disease like this”.

Nobody was even considering taking the diseases seriously so for now, I’m going to go about my business a usual. If people start taking it seriously then I’ll join in, no problem. But for now it’s just being treated as a big joke.

So I’ll be off to on hols in 2 weeks.

barney shamrock · 27-02-2020 11:09am

Due to fly to Milan on Friday 6th for a weekend (booked back in December)
Not going to risk it but will try and change the booking to go later in the year.

Akabusi · 27-02-2020 11:46am

Going to Italy on Monday, hopefully the weather is good

SusanC10 · 27-02-2020 11:52am

We are going to UK for Easter and Lake Garda and Tuscany in late June.

Not cancelling at the moment anyway.

jam_mac_jam · 27-02-2020 12:35pm

Yes, going to Dahab in Egypt in March. We are also meant to be going to Petra which I am a bit concerned about and am considering skipping if it gets much worse.

At present the main places I would not go would be China, Japan and north Italy.

SusieBlue · 27-02-2020 12:50pm

riffmongous wrote: »

But again, even if it's not more dangerous for you as a young person, if you get it you will be spreading it to people who it is very dangerous to.

Why don't people get this?

Exactly, this is how its spreading.
The young, fit healthy people aren't even realising that they are sick, or they think they just have a regular flu.
So they are continuing to go about their business as normal, infecting the elderly, the immunocompromised, and small children, who could then potentially die from it.
Those people are then at risk of spreading it to their families who may be looking after them, or healthcare workers.
And so the cycle continues. This is exactly how this virus ended up in Europe in the first place.
Just because you'll be fine if you get it, doesn't mean you can't pass it on to others who might become gravely ill.

tbayers · 27-02-2020 12:50pm

Yup nothing to see here at all, just cities with millions of people on lock down in China and to a lesser extent, same in Italy.

Way more contagious than the flu, at least 10 times more likely to kill you compared to flu. It is potentially in Ireland already. Just passed through Dublin airport yesterday and not one precautionary measure, not even a sign or anything. People saying it isn't serious wont be repeating themselves when their town is on lock down after a few cases break out locally.

xzanti · 27-02-2020 12:50pm

Going to Tenerife in July.

Spoke with my travel agent yesterday on a different matter and brought up the subject.

She informed me that in the event that our hotel is quarantined as per the hotel in the news, the hotel price will be refunded, but not the flights.

Full holiday will only be refunded if the Department of Foreign Affairs issues a statement that the Island is a no-go.

As it stands; I fully intend on going on my holiday.

xzanti · 27-02-2020 12:52pm

tbayers wrote: »

Way more contagious than the flu, at least 10 times more likely to kill you compared to flu. It is in Ireland already. .

Where are you getting this from?

SusieBlue · 27-02-2020 12:55pm

tbayers wrote: »

Yup nothing to see here at all, just cities with millions of people on lock down in China and to a lesser extent, same in Italy.

Way more contagious than the flu, at least 10 times more likely to kill you compared to flu. It is in Ireland already. Just passed through Dublin airport yesterday and not one precautionary measure, not even a sign or anything. People saying it isn't serious wont be repeating themselves when their town is on lock down after a few cases break out locally.

My neighbours son was one of many Irish Erasmus students in University of Milan, they were all instructed to come home earlier this week as the University is closed until further notice.
Milan is in the region where the virus first appeared, yet none of the students were tested or checked upon their arrival to Ireland.
They're all home now, in their towns and villages across the country, and were just told to self quarantine if they feel sick. That's it.
I wouldn't be a bit surprised if its already in Ireland when there's such little government interest in screening those who are coming into the country.

tbayers · 27-02-2020 12:56pm

xzanti wrote: »

Where are you getting this from?

Changed my post.

But based on stats and those that have returned from Northern Italy, Spain (where new cases are being reported on the hour now) etc it isn't crazy to presume that it exists here all ready, all be it not officially.

firemansam4 · 27-02-2020 1:09pm

Supposed to be going to Malaga with my family at the start of April, I've resigned myself to the fact we probably won't be going now.

I'm hoping that flights will be cancelled at that stage so we might get a refund, otherwise quite a big loss money wise.

El_Duderino 09 · 27-02-2020 1:13pm

SusieBlue wrote: »

Exactly, this is how its spreading.
The young, fit healthy people aren't even realising that they are sick, or they think they just have a regular flu.
So they are continuing to go about their business as normal, infecting the elderly, the immunocompromised, and small children, who could then potentially die from it.
Those people are then at risk of spreading it to their families who may be looking after them, or healthcare workers.
And so the cycle continues. This is exactly how this virus ended up in Europe in the first place.
Just because you'll be fine if you get it, doesn't mean you can't pass it on to others who might become gravely ill.

Probably all true. But unless we’re all going to simultaneously self quarantine for the next fortnight, then it’s going to continue. So if everyone else isn’t even considering taking it seriously, then I’m not going to take it seriously either.

AlekSmart · 27-02-2020 1:15pm

ZiabR wrote: »

It has a mortality rate of 10 times the Flu so it is much more serious. This was discussed at length on Newstalk yesterday.

Which strain of "The Flu" is this comparison being made against ?

It may also be useful to consider the role of "The Internet" in this current situation,particularly with Chinese Authorities being unusually co-operative in the earlier stages ?

Without the 'Net,we most likely would'nt have the remotest notion of what a Coronavirus was,and would also be somewhat calmer as a result ?

The Eyes of Darkness by Dean R Koontz,published in 1981,might provide a more accurate picture of the Wuhan virus than what's doing the rounds at the moment ?

https://www.dailyexaminer.com.au/news/books-eerie-coronavirus-prediction/3954417/

:eek:

Mad_maxx · 27-02-2020 1:20pm

Most certainly not, we were thinking of going to Italy this summer but won't go anywhere now, two small kids

tbayers · 27-02-2020 1:21pm

AlekSmart wrote: »

Which strain of "The Flu" is this comparison being made against ?

It may also be useful to consider the role of "The Internet" in this current situation,particularly with Chinese Authorities being unusually co-operative in the earlier stages ?

Without the 'Net,we most likely would'nt have the remotest notion of what a Coronavirus was,and would also be somewhat calmer as a result ?

The Eyes of Darkness by Dean R Koontz,published in 1981,might provide a more accurate picture of the Wuhan virus than what's doing the rounds at the moment ?

https://www.dailyexaminer.com.au/news/books-eerie-coronavirus-prediction/3954417/

:eek:

https://www.livescience.com/new-coronavirus-compare-with-flu.html

At these early stages it definitely has a higher mortality rate than the flu.

TheRepentent · 27-02-2020 1:37pm

MonkeyTennis wrote: »

Going to the Canaries on Tuesday. Yep.

Let us know if you survive , depending on your report I'll dewcide if I'll go at end of month

andrew1977 · 27-02-2020 4:52pm

Amsterdam 10th March for me for a midweek break, unless a mass ramp up of this virus I am going !

Ludo · 27-02-2020 4:56pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

Most certainly not, we were thinking of going to Italy this summer but won't go anywhere now, two small kids

I also have a family holiday booked to Lake Garda and Bergamo this summer and have 2 kids. Way too soon to decide one way or the other though. It may be gone by August, or it may be everywhere. In either case going will not be that big a deal.
Certainly not cancelling accom until much nearer the time and when it gets near point where cancellation fee kicks in.

CinemaGuy45 · 27-02-2020 5:01pm

lozenges wrote: »

Booked flights to France yesterday!

That a bit silly now I heard they are doing a great deals on Milan.;)

Rvsmmnps · 27-02-2020 5:05pm

I should fly back to Ireland end of the month, I won't purchase anything for the next two weeks. This is the biggest financial stress test in history for airlines and cruise companies.

SusanC10 · 27-02-2020 5:06pm

Just off the phone with VHI where we have our Multi-trip Annual Policy.
If the DFA advise not to travel to a certain area or whole country at 14 days from our intended Departure Date then we will be covered fully to cancel. Flights or Ferry and Accommodation. So, we will be waiting until 14 days before either trip to see how things are at that point.

rustynutz · 27-02-2020 5:13pm

Heading for Krakow in the morning, it's inevitably going to reach the whole of Europe so why change plans on the small chance you may pick it up sooner rather than later?

quokula · 27-02-2020 5:13pm

Got a holiday through a few central European countries booked in April. If it was today I'd go, if the situation has changed much by April I may reconsider. If it is looking worse where I'm planning to go I may look into using the time off to visit a different destination.

Scheduled to be in London for a few days in March too for work, assuming that will go ahead as normal.

Feisar · 27-02-2020 5:15pm

poolboy wrote: »

Do you have any loved ones who are older or immuno compromised, not saying dont go i think you should as things stand but everyone has a responsibility to protect the vulnerable in communities.

People are too self entitled for that shtick!

L1011 · 27-02-2020 5:19pm

Yes, although I may cancel and rebook my hotel booking for June if it drops in price at all.

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