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Kermit.de.frog · 26-02-2020 05:42PM

The new case in Helsinki is a woman who had travelled from Milan

DrumSteve · 26-02-2020 05:42PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

I'm at the dentist right now. I did have second thoughts but then if everything does go tits up for a while when's the next time I'll be able to get it sorted? Right now its weighing up the risks vs the reality that there are no cases where I live. Same in ireland. Live your life as normal for as long as you can while still being prepared, and taking reasonable precautions like handwashing etc and hopefully it will come to nothing. Theres literally nothing else anyone can do

They could check people at the (air)ports?

ceadaoin. · 26-02-2020 05:42PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

I think there is some truth in that and probably why a lot of those doctors died in Asia.

It could also be the case that people were being released before they were fully cured.

I thought the theory re the doctors was that they were exposed to a very high viral load through treating patients, making their infections more severe

gmisk · 26-02-2020 05:43PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

They could check people at the (air)ports?

Can people not have it and no symptoms for 14 days?

BENDYBINN · 26-02-2020 05:44PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

They could check people at the (air)ports?

Teresa Mannion and unnecessary journeys comes to mind.....

ceadaoin. · 26-02-2020 05:44PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

They could check people at the (air)ports?

That wont really do anything, not everyone is symptomatic, those who are can take medication to reduce fever so wont be flagged up. Even the actual tests for this virus specifically aren't that reliable with many false negatives reported

DrumSteve · 26-02-2020 05:45PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

That wont really do anything, not everyone is symptomatic, those who are can take medication to reduce fever so wont be flagged up. Even the actual tests for this virus specifically aren't that reliable with many false negatives reported

But they might catch a couple of people coming through?

ceadaoin. · 26-02-2020 05:47PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

But they might catch a couple of people coming through?

They might. And dozens more will pass through unnoticed. Its going to be everywhere pretty soon, on a personal level you can take precautions and prepare to stay at home for a while but that's it.

They should probably advise people travelling from affected regions to self isolate for a couple of weeks but will they listen?

EltonJohn69 · 26-02-2020 05:50PM

If Europe had just stopped flights from Italy a week ago containment would have been so much easier... seems so obvious.....

mlem123 · 26-02-2020 05:50PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

They could check people at the (air)ports?

https://nationalpost.com/health/airport-screening-for-viruses-is-back-despite-post-sars-study-that-found-it-to-be-of-little-use

random_banter · 26-02-2020 05:51PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

There was a school from Rush in Northern Italy from Weds-Sun of last week. Apparently a few are unwell this week, message went out on iSchool app today.

Hearing lots of anecdotal things like this about school ski trips (had no idea there were so many school ski trips - the boom is clearly back) for mid-term.

While I don't have scientific proof of this, the experience for myself and others I know is that ski trips actually often end up with people catching a dose toward the end (sometimes the beginning!) or being ill when they come back home - mainly due to cold/hot air changes, exposure, extreme fatigue caused by doing heaps of sport all day when they're not used to it etc. So the immune system can get compromised.

I would take all reports about this with a pinch of salt until things are confirmed. As an example, of 10 of us who used to go away skiing together each year, at least two tended to come back and develop a chest infection, even pneumonia on a couple of occasions.

So, yeah, no massive panic about the amount of sick kids we are hearing about until there is testing and proof (IMO).

ThePopehimself · 26-02-2020 05:52PM

Cases confirmed in 45 countries now.

timmyntc · 26-02-2020 05:52PM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

They might. And dozens more will pass through unnoticed. Its going to be everywhere pretty soon, on a personal level you can take precautions and prepare to stay at home for a while but that's it.

They should probably advise people travelling from affected regions to self isolate for a couple of weeks but will they listen?

Surely the strategy is to contain and slow down the spread - then surely scanning at airports does make sense in that it would catch those with symptoms at the very least?

Those who develop symptoms after transit into the country will have to be caught and contained at the regional level then - if they just wait until cases are symptomatic across the country and contact the HSE - the spread will be crazy. We'll never get it under control.

bodhrandude · 26-02-2020 05:54PM

shalclon wrote: »

Sorry if this is stupid question but I'm curious to know if like the flu virus it's more easily spread in cold and damp weather and If weather picked up in next few weeks would spread slow down or are they totally unrelated?

I dunno I've seen pretty sh1te Aprils and Mays too at times.

Kermit.de.frog · 26-02-2020 05:55PM

Heard nothing at all on a potential case at Beaumont Hospital. Another false alarm most likely.

26-02-2020 05:56PM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Cases confirmed in 45 countries now.

Anyone thinking of cancelling their foreign holiday this year if booked up to June/July and just staying in Ireland instead?

I don’t want to be out of pocket or confined to a hotel room for 2 weeks- I’m hoping the worst will have happened by then but it’s worrying nevertheless

Foxtrol · 26-02-2020 05:56PM

Can someone confirm if this thread is a good example of how a lot of Ireland is reacting to this?

I am currently in a big city in the US and people are somewhat concerned but it seems like many here are completely freaking out.

EltonJohn69 · 26-02-2020 05:57PM

Particles linger in the air for a longer time in cold weather..... in hot weather they don’t

tillyfilly · 26-02-2020 05:57PM

We need st Patrick to work his magic again, banish the Corona virus

scotchy · 26-02-2020 05:57PM

Where would announcement of first case here be made?

tillyfilly · 26-02-2020 05:58PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Can someone confirm if this thread is a good example of how a lot of Ireland is reacting to this?

I am currently in a big city in the US and people are somewhat concerned but it seems like many here are completely freaking out.

we are calm compared to most

EltonJohn69 · 26-02-2020 05:58PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Can someone confirm if this thread is a good example of how a lot of Ireland is reacting to this?

I am currently in a big city in the US and people are somewhat concerned but it seems like many here are completely freaking out.

Average person is saying it’s just another flu

Graces7 · 26-02-2020 05:58PM

Abba987 wrote: »

I hope all the churches do away with offering the sign of peace and shaking hands with strangers. Its vile on a normal day but really needs to stop now. I am not a big mass goer but was at a couple of funerals recently and its still happening

Several dioceses/parishes have in fact stopped this as they do every winter in flu season and there are questions re communion itself at present.

And it will be reinforced now,

Check with google?
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I never participated as I am immunocompromised . Just fold your hands . close your eyes, bow your head. Anyone can do this. ( I also HATE this custom!) And no one ever challenged me on it,

josip · 26-02-2020 05:59PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone thinking of cancelling their foreign holiday this year if booked up to June/July and just staying in Ireland instead?

I don’t want to be out of pocket or confined to a hotel room for 2 weeks- I’m hoping the worst will have happened by then but it’s worrying nevertheless

You'll be fine in July and very unlucky to be affected in June.
Book somewhere as far south and as hot as you can find.
I've heard that northern Mali is nice that time of year.

bb12 · 26-02-2020 05:59PM

a person in my workplace came back from a multi-day work trip in milan late last week. they're not concerned about the virus at all and even laughing about it around the office. rest of co-workers are horrified and raised concerns but the boss won't send this person home even though their job could easily be done from home for a couple of weeks.

NomadicGray · 26-02-2020 06:00PM

random_banter wrote: »

So, yeah, no massive panic about the amount of sick kids we are hearing about until there is testing and proof (IMO).

When i was a kid i used to think I had every disease and illness I heard about on the news

mlem123 · 26-02-2020 06:00PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

Can someone confirm if this thread is a good example of how a lot of Ireland is reacting to this?

I am currently in a big city in the US and people are somewhat concerned but it seems like many here are completely freaking out.

I'm in a couple of FB groups about travel and women who travel solo etc and they're mostly Americans.. but you'd swear it was doomsday the way they panic about EVERYTHING.

Rob A. Bank · 26-02-2020 06:00PM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Cases confirmed in 45 countries now.

The question now is how many of the 45 are ready, willing or able to replicate the draconian measures of containment, contact tracing and medical care that China has taken to reduce the numbers of people being infected ?

weldoninhio · 26-02-2020 06:01PM

random_banter wrote: »

Hearing lots of anecdotal things like this about school ski trips (had no idea there were so many school ski trips - the boom is clearly back) for mid-term.

While I don't have scientific proof of this, the experience for myself and others I know is that ski trips actually often end up with people catching a dose toward the end (sometimes the beginning!) or being ill when they come back home - mainly due to cold/hot air changes, exposure, extreme fatigue caused by doing heaps of sport all day when they're not used to it etc. So the immune system can get compromised.

I would take all reports about this with a pinch of salt until things are confirmed. As an example, of 10 of us who used to go away skiing together each year, at least two tended to come back and develop a chest infection, even pneumonia on a couple of occasions.

So, yeah, no massive panic about the amount of sick kids we are hearing about until there is testing and proof (IMO).

I’m from Rush. I don’t think it was a ski trip they were on.

fr336 · 26-02-2020 06:03PM

bb12 wrote: »

a person in my workplace came back from a multi-day work trip in milan late last week. they're not concerned about the virus at all and even laughing about it around the office. rest of co-workers are horrified and raised concerns but the boss won't send this person home even though their job could easily be done from home for a couple of weeks.

Is it a larger company than your office? Ie could any of you escalate this higher anonymously? I'm sure if it's a medium to large company they won't want the bad publicity if this ends up in it being spread around.

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