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Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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  • #1682
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ouch. That cuts deep. I'm bleeding here. Hope whatever job you do makes a difference to the country nationally as mine does :)
    God bless, petal.

    Sorry you took me up that way. I meant 'only' as in your not Paul Reid or whoever the director general of the HSE is and it's not fair to expect you to answer for the HSE while so many of us are in here complaining of their shortcomings.

    Well done on making a difference to the country nationally. I'm sure the things I do pale in comparison.


  • #1683
    babybuilder
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,111 ✭✭✭babybuilder


    drkpower wrote: »
    What are the obvious cases? Someone with a temperature? How many of those do you think you will pick up? What do you do it with them? How many will have Covid?


    That's the issue; building public confidence with an ineffective PR show that draws resources away from where they are better deployed will do nothing to help anyone. Quite the opposite?
    I'm very tempted to insert a famous Abraham Lincoln quote here but I won't bother. Anyway we're all hoping for the best outcome


  • #1684
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    josip wrote: »
    What are you so confident there will be a vaccine in what would be an extremely short timeframe?
    There are biotech companies like Moderna claiming they will be starting human trials on possible vaccine in 6 weeks.
    The WHO have said they expect one within 18 months also.


  • #1685
    Candamir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Candamir


    fr336 wrote: »
    Never knew passengers carried people's medical supplies on commercial flights.

    Most of that kind of cargo is carried on passenger flights. If borders are closed to passengers, those flights don’t go and the cargo doesn’t either. Closing the airports, even just for passenger flights, would cause significant supply chain disruption.


  • #1686
    all about the mane
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭all about the mane


    gmisk wrote: »
    There are biotech companies like Moderna claiming they will be starting human trials in 6 weeks.
    The WHO have said they expect one within 18 months also.

    The moderna vaccine has to go through clinical trials. Even fast-tracked, you are probably looking at the guts of a year.


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  • #1687
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    all about the mane wrote: »
    The midterms vaccine has to go through clinical trials. Even fast-tracked, you are probably looking at the guts of a year.
    Oh yes I would say so, I was just saying that 18 months figure the WHO have seems realistic.


  • #1688
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,741 ✭✭✭✭josip


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Ouch. That cuts deep. I'm bleeding here. Hope whatever job you do makes a difference to the country nationally as mine does :)
    God bless, petal.


    In fairness to buile, I didn't read his post the same way you did.
    I think the 'only' in the context was intended to cut you some slack, not to belittle your job.
    In the way that you did his/hers.


  • #1689
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    gmisk wrote: »
    So a random post by a "Japanese doctor" on the web?
    I kinda thought so.
    Why not post a link if it's such a reputable source?

    Hardly random he’s a doctor in japan on the front line


  • #1690
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,006 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Ariel Aggressive Medicine wrote: »
    Hi guys ,
    Some of you are obviously very well read on this topic. I’m not worried about myself getting it , I am fit and healthy, but one of my children has a condition that can affect his lungs and he is prone to pneumonia ( he has had flu and pneumonia vaccine of course) . We are all careful at hand washing in the family. I was just wondering what is so special about the masks everyone is queuing for? Can I just make my own from fabric to- cover nose and mouth?

    Make your own masks: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=make+mask+virus


  • #1691
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    Hardly random he’s a doctor in japan on the front line
    Link? Actual source?


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  • #1692
    Candamir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Candamir


    all about the mane wrote: »
    The midterms vaccine has to go through clinical trials. Even fast-tracked, you are probably looking at the guts of a year.

    Interesting that people seem keen to get a vaccine available for use. Similar to the feeling on the ground when swine flu appeared on the scene. Indemnifying the fast tracking of that vaccine seems to have backfired spectacularly for the government. I wonder will they be so quick this time, or will we have to wait for the full, rigorous, and lengthy trialling process.


  • #1693
    auspicious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭auspicious


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Ouch. That cuts deep. I'm bleeding here. Hope whatever job you do makes a difference to the country nationally as mine does :)
    God bless, petal.

    BuileBeag's reply wasn't a put down, in fairness.


  • #1694
    Candamir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 531 ✭✭✭Candamir


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    Hardly random he’s a doctor in japan on the front line

    Maybe it was a poor translation then, because most of it was rubbish!


  • #1695
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 12,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I really think we should chill out here.

    Of course, the numbers will rise.

    Everywhere, they will rise in to the millions.

    Most people will get this, for most its just fine.

    Keep an eye on some, it can be dangerous.


  • #1696
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks josip and auspicious. In fairness to the dazzler when I read his response I could immediately see where 'only' may have been a poor choice of word. This thread is just moving so fast you don't have time to think! :D


  • #1697
    turbbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭turbbo


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    I really think we should chill out here.

    Of course, the numbers will rise.

    Everywhere, they will rise in to the millions.

    Most people will get this, for most its just fine.

    Keep an eye on some, it can be dangerous.


    Thank you oh wise one. I feel at ease now.


  • #1698
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Candamir wrote: »
    Maybe it was a poor translation then, because most of it was rubbish!
    You have to take it as genuine though come on.
    It said the below....and I mean it was also in capitals so you know it's from a reputable source!

    "SERIOUS EXCELLENT ADVICE"


  • #1699
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Ikozma wrote: »
    What are the chances of a complete shutdown of air and sea travel around Europe in the coming months, would it be a possibility?

    Look nobody can give numbers because nobody knows.

    But yes it is very possible.

    Would you like to travel somewhere for a week and be stuck there six weeks in a lockdown?


  • #1700
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    Hardly random he’s a doctor in japan on the front line

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=109477550496291&story_fbid=176873370423375


  • #1701
    Carol25
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 731 ✭✭✭Carol25


    babybuilder wrote: »
    I'm not a sinn Fein supporter. Who has been in power the last 20 years? Who has made the health service a deplorable mess for the least well off and most vulnerable in society. You fairly took the bait there

    This is a thread about a virus which is fast becoming an emergency. You first mentioned FF/FG in your post (others in reply accused me of posting re politics first) and basically just posted a Sinn Fein mantra above. This is not the time or place for partisan politics which is why I am ignoring the other replies. Start another thread if you want that debate.


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  • #1702
    Call Me Jimmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,449 ✭✭✭Call Me Jimmy


    Why have China gone on a war footing to contain their outbreak while we are being told to accept it will be everywhere else like the flu? It peaked in China too apparently. So China have been turned it around from the worst possible starting position but we should let it run its course. Seems to be the narrative


  • #1703
    turbbo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭turbbo


    Carol25 wrote: »
    This is a thread about a virus which is fast becoming an emergency. You first mentioned FF/FG in your post (others in reply accused me of posting re politics first) and basically just posted a Sinn Fein mantra above. This is not the time or place for partisan politics which is why I am ignoring the other replies. Start another thread if you want that debate.

    Thought SF meant San Fran! 😀


  • #1704
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    gmisk wrote: »
    Link? Actual source?

    https://www.nairaland.com/5704819/re-prevention-against-covid-19


  • #1705
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    I hope some of yis never have to cross the road the way yis are goin on :pac:


  • #1706
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,741 ✭✭✭✭josip


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    ...
    Would you like to travel somewhere for a week and be stuck there six weeks in a lockdown?


    That's a very intriguing question if you reword it slightly to:

    Where would you like to travel for a week and be stuck for six weeks in a lockdown?


  • #1707
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,230 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    josip wrote: »
    What are you so confident there will be a vaccine in what would be an extremely short timeframe?

    SARS and MERS were both well on the way to developing vaccines but the diseases fizzled out do the pharmaceutical companies stopped working on them. If COVID 19 becomes a pandemic then there will be more than enough incentive for researchers to finish those vaccine trials

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • #1708
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Steer55 wrote: »
    I read somewhere the situation in Iran is dire, a more virulent strain of the virus maybe..

    Oh FFS and I am on the side that says we need to take this thing very serious.

    I read somewhere that the Queen of England is a lizard.:rolleyes:


  • #1709
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Call Me Jimmy wrote: »
    Why have China gone on a war footing to contain their outbreak while we are being told to accept it will be everywhere else like the flu? It peaked in China too apparently. So China have been turned it around from the worst possible starting position but we should let it run its course. Seems to be the narrative

    Yes well I think everyone recognises that most countries do not maintain authoritarian regimes and so they cannot implement the measures China did


  • #1710
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,385 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=109477550496291&story_fbid=176873370423375
    Wow....that just screams reliable source to me....Jesus Christ...why do people spread nonsense like this, it's embarrassing and incredibly unhelpful


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  • #1711
    Titclamp
    Closed Accounts Posts: 409 ✭✭Titclamp


    CinemaGuy45 wrote: »
    People of the lowest IQ are the ones saying it will be all grand.

    No point in debating with people who say it is just like flu.

    Also the numbers coming out of China are pure and utter lies.

    What are the real numbers?

    Time with tell.

    Any links to give a real estimated number?


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