Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

wadacrack · 25-02-2020 11:29AM

This is going to be so bad ina month in Europe. The advice by the authorities is beyond embarrassing . Protect the economy and pretend everything is ok until its chaos seems to the rationale.

Juventus fans 3,000 will travel to Lyon for the Champions League game

https://www.rtl.fr/actu/politique/coronavirus-olivier-veran-ne-veut-pas-annuler-lyon-juventus-et-la-fashion-week-7800153008

Sky News Breaking
@SkyNewsBreak
Health Secretary Matt Hancock says Britons who have come back from northern Italy should "self isolate" for two weeks if they feel unwell

Just blatantly ignoring the data on the disease and containment strategies.

Fr_Dougal · 25-02-2020 11:31AM

The poop is really going to hit the fan when this hits the US properly.

Low paid workers have no/limited healthcare, and are not entitled to sick pay.

ThePopehimself · 25-02-2020 11:32AM

pc7 wrote: »

HSE Coronavirus page still hasn't been updated since 21/2, also says will only test people who meet the following:-

You will only need to be tested for coronavirus if you have symptoms and have in the last 14 days been:

in close contact with a confirmed case of coronavirus
to mainland China - this does not include Hong Kong or Macau
in a healthcare centre or hospital where patients with coronavirus were being treated

Thank God they HSE were'nt in charge of the Diamond Princess! Not to mention the Canary Islands right now!

25-02-2020 11:33AM

Lackey wrote: »

Nice idea, but did you watch Claire Last night?

It was less: ‘throw the switch’

More: ‘I tried to call the hse number provided after returning to Ireland from a work trip where I was in contact with two people who have confirmed Coronavirus, the number didn’t work.
When I did get someone on the phone I was told I would be grand and to go ahead to my work conference next week’

For those who can endure the RTÉ player, it’s on there now.

Lackey · 25-02-2020 11:33AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

The Match is 10 days away. Still plenty of time to cancel.

Italians already have their flights and hotels booked
Time booked off work
Babysitters sorted etc etc
They won’t get refunds for flights hotel
A lot will probably come over anyway.

odyssey06 · 25-02-2020 11:33AM

solidasarock wrote: »

TBF since our health system cant even cope with the day to day, how are they to cope if they tell everyone who has been in any airport or public transport with a fever and a cough to get checked?

Can you find the post on this thread where anyone says that?

If it can't even cope with checking out people who have been to the affected areas in Italy, for example, how is it going to cope with an actual outbreak?

pc7 · 25-02-2020 11:35AM

solidasarock wrote: »

TBF since our health system cant even cope with the day to day, how are they to cope if they tell everyone who has been in any airport or public transport with a fever and a cough to get checked?

How will they cope if it starts spreading, at least by testing the likes of the guy on Claire Byrne who was in contact with someone infected it’s a starting point.

pc7 · 25-02-2020 11:38AM

Lackey wrote: »

Italians already have their flights and hotels booked
Time booked off work
Babysitters sorted etc etc
They won’t get refunds for flights hotel
A lot will probably come over anyway.

I’ve all that booked for Paris match, hotel I can cancel for free, work I only had Friday booked off can decide to work or not, babysitters might be delighted to be off the hook with minding my kids

flights are Aer Lingus so I can get something back from them. Or if travel advise is set not too insurance company might pay out. Either way I wouldn’t risk it if current trend continues.

all about the mane · 25-02-2020 11:39AM

For all you in running around in sandwich boards & giving out about the HSE:

How deadly is the coronavirus?
Based on data from 44,000 patients with this coronavirus, the WHO says:

81% develop mild symptoms
14% develop severe symptoms
5% become critically ill
The proportion dying from the disease, which has been named Covid-19, appears low (between 1% and 2%) - but the figures are unreliable.

Thousands are still being treated but may go on to die - so the death rate could be higher. But it is also unclear how many mild cases remain unreported - so the death rate could also be lower.

To put this into context, about one billion people catch influenza every year, with between 290,000 and 650,000 deaths. The severity of flu changes every year.

ZiabR · 25-02-2020 11:40AM

odyssey06 wrote: »

If it can't even cope with checking out people who have been to the affected areas in Italy, for example, how is it going to cope with an actual outbreak?

Simple answer is, it wont cope. It will result in the virus being spread like wild fire as people rush to A+E for treatment, which in turn will result in alot of deaths.

wakka12 · 25-02-2020 11:41AM

Religious buildings seem to be regular centres of outbreaks
5 members so far have tested positive in a buddhist temple in hong kong,tests done on the temple's faucet and scriptures and found living coronavirus
https://hk.on.cc/hk/bkn/cnt/news/20200225/bkn-20200225163248101-0225_00822_001.html

Poor_old_gill · 25-02-2020 11:41AM

ThePopehimself wrote: »

Canary Islands: hundreds of tourists tested after case in hotel

Spanish health authorities are carrying out tests on hundreds of tourists in a Canary Islands hotel after a coronavirus case has been identified.

Holidaymakers have been quarantined inside a complex in Tenerife, and local reports have named the hotel as the H10 Costa Adeje Palace in Adeje.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/25/world/asia/coronavirus-news.html

Meanwhile in Ireland, Eoin is said to be 'Limiting Contact' with people after having been exposed in South Korea.:rolleyes:

Jeez that Eoin guy was some attention seeking dose.

Chopper83 · 25-02-2020 11:42AM

If your parents were due to fly to Tenerife tomorrow, what would your advice be?

pc7 · 25-02-2020 11:43AM

@Mane I have stated more than once, I’m not worried so much about catching it but worried the impact it would have on our health services ICU and hospitals that are already under pressure. I feel the HSE in not updating their website since Friday to include countries like Italy, Iran etc is negligent.
I have no sandwich board, I am not panicking.

all about the mane · 25-02-2020 11:44AM

Chopper83 wrote: »

If your parents were due to fly to Tenerife tomorrow, what would your advice be?

Have a great time

wakka12 · 25-02-2020 11:45AM

Things dont look good for the middle east
4 new cases in Iraq(total 5),6 new cases in Bahrain(total 8), 3 new cases in Kuwait(total 8), all these countries had zero yesterday morning

odyssey06 · 25-02-2020 11:47AM

all about the mane wrote: »

For all you in running around in sandwich boards & giving out about the HSE:

Not this flu comparison again.

Tell the Russians to open their borders then.
Tell British Airways to start flying to China again.
Tell the Chinese central government to open up Hubei province to the outside world.
Tell the Italians to lift the restrictions on the dozen towns they've cordoned off.
Tell the French to cancel their order for 70 million protection masks.

There's no sandwich boards here. Just a lot of ostriches with their heads in the sand who aren't paying attention to the actions of major governments.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 25-02-2020 11:48AM

Chopper83 wrote: »

If your parents were due to fly to Tenerife tomorrow, what would your advice be?

Hotel in Tenerife currently in lock down, I'm a bit worried about things and would be telling them not to go.

That said they could go, have a great holiday and come back no harm done.

The fact that things are changing so quickly though, if it was me I wouldn't want to run the risk of getting stuck somewhere.

I know a few people due to travel in April and May who have already cancelled their trips. I imagine a lot will be staying home for holidays this year.

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 11:48AM

Chopper83 wrote: »

If your parents were due to fly to Tenerife tomorrow, what would your advice be?

Honestly if you have to ask the question you know the answer already.

Why take the risk?

25-02-2020 11:52AM

Chopper83 wrote: »

If your parents were due to fly to Tenerife tomorrow, what would your advice be?

Keep up to date and make a call on it last minute.

Need to know when this guy arrived in Tenerife and where he’s been since getting there.

BanditLuke · 25-02-2020 11:54AM

Meanwhile two people in my workplace have both been told by management to go home as they came in to work couching and sweating this morning. It's a huge problem as we don't get paid if we are out sick but if you come in sick and then get sent home you get paid. That's neo liberal economics and the race to the bottom in 2020 for you.

Poor_old_gill · 25-02-2020 11:55AM

Chopper83 wrote: »

If your parents were due to fly to Tenerife tomorrow, what would your advice be?

I'd imagine that if there is a bit of an outbreak (even 4/5) emanating from that hotel on lockdown then your folks will need to self isolate when they get home.

If they go then best stock up on a few basic supplies for when they get back but the best option would be to not go realistically.

Or let me rephrase that - I wouldnt go

Shuhada Davitt · 25-02-2020 11:56AM

IT IS ALL A SCAM. there's no such thing as coronavirus

Poor_old_gill · 25-02-2020 11:56AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Meanwhile two people in my workplace have both been told by management to go home as they came in to work couching and sweating this morning. It's a huge problem as we don't get paid if we are out sick but if you come in sick and then get sent home you get paid. That's neo liberal economics and the race to the bottom in 2020 for you.

Christ thats a fairly sucky system

markodaly · 25-02-2020 11:56AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Meanwhile two people in my workplace have both been told by management to go home as they came in to work couching and sweating this morning. It's a huge problem as we don't get paid if we are out sick but if you come in sick and then get sent home you get paid. That's neo liberal economics and the race to the bottom in 2020 for you.

Nonesense. If you are a full-time worker, you do get sick days.

all about the mane · 25-02-2020 11:59AM

markodaly wrote: »

Nonesense. If you are a full-time worker, you do get sick days.

There are ways around it

DrumSteve · 25-02-2020 11:59AM

markodaly wrote: »

Nonesense. If you are a full-time worker, you do get sick days.

Depends on the contract.

25-02-2020 11:59AM

Note given to guests in h10 hotel in Tenerife

https://twitter.com/crckrestaurant/status/1232249383472726017?s=21

SeaBreezes · 25-02-2020 12:01PM

Characteristics of and Important Lessons From the Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) Outbreak in China
Summary of a Report of 72 314 Cases From the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention

Most cases were classified as mild (81%; ie, nonpneumonia and mild pneumonia). However, 14% were severe (ie, dyspnea, respiratory frequency ≥30/min, blood oxygen saturation ≤93%, partial pressure of arterial oxygen to fraction of inspired oxygen ratio <300, and/or lung infiltrates >50% within 24 to 48 hours), and 5% were critical (ie, respiratory failure, septic shock, and/or multiple organ dysfunction or failure)

63% of Health Care workers affected in Wuhan, 3.8% outside Wuhan.
14% of this affected severe/critical :-(

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762130

ThewhiteJesus · 25-02-2020 12:03PM

Chopper83 wrote: »

If your parents were due to fly to Tenerife tomorrow, what would your advice be?

as long as they are not immunosupressed they'll be fine Chopper

Coronavirus Part II - Its arrived - We're Doomed!!! See OP for Mod warnings

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