new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

I see Austria has denied access for a train over it's border tonight.

Could be the firing gun on more officious restrictions.

bennyl10 wrote: »

The flu, worldwide, kills about 500K each year.
Corona isn’t anywhere near this.

It has a much higher survival rate among infected also

Yes it’s a worrying disease. But it isn’t ‘catastrophic’

Which is why governments are shutting down cities and towns and flights, crippling their own economies or damaging them severely... judge what the experts in charge do, not just what they say while containing panic (which can cause as much damage as the virus). I don’t doubt the virus will probably only kill small percentages actually, but it will be big enough to still register as an avoidable human tragedy if it gets out of control.

I agree with other posters that a measured increase in awareness and potential preparation is a lot better than a dash to mingle with the wider population rushing to get the last sliced pan of Brennan’s out of Tesco when there’s confirmed cases on the ground. I don’t fancy being part of the 1-2% or being part of the second order effects, ala disabled folks left to die when services break down for them if it becomes a big deal.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Malaga all the way for me, not knocking your choice, but shorter flight and if you choose the right spot there will be no ahem, Brits/Irish abroad either. I know lol.

Enjoy anyway, you will be fine. Gracias.

I'm curious, where is the right spot? Thanks

Have any women died outside China yet?

MastiffMrs wrote: »

I'm planning on getting some supplies in so was doing some research today. Is powdered milk available in Ireland? I'll need a substitute for milk that has a longer shelf life. Is soya milk as awful as it used to be?!!

Almond milk is the nicest of the substitutes imo and has a decent shelf life.

I'm genuinely gonna have an anxiety attack if I keep reading this thread.

TomSweeney wrote: »

Are the media being told to keep it upbeat to avoid panic ?

It's very strange, not necessarily because of Corona but because when it comes to terrorism and other issues they can't get enough of terrifying people 24/7. Then again maybe it's simply the nature of the story - there's not much you can report on really, until it arrives on Irish or British shores in large numbers and they can interview lots of Irish / Brits. But yes, strange.

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Nobody is making fun of the dead.

This subject is not funny in the least but better to keep our sprits up.

The enemy here is a virus we are ALL potential targets.

On the off chance it gets me I am not going to spend what time I have left worried and depressed.:)

What a trooper

Mic 1972 wrote: »

was talking to some friends in Italy earlier on, in the infected areas people are basically living Wuhan life, one day everything was fine the next day there are police cars with loud speakers going around inviting people to stay in. Apparently there is an emergency plan to bring food to the shops, but for the moment the shelves are empty, all in one day

https://video.corriere.it/milano/coronavirus-assalto-supermercati-milano-immagini-scaffali-vuoti/cacf6b4e-5664-11ea-b447-d9646dbdb12a

Let me just look about 500 pages up thread to the “when it goes, it goes quickly” warnings....

fr336 wrote: »

It's very strange, not necessarily because of Corona but because when it comes to terrorism and other issues they can't get enough of terrifying people 24/7. Then again maybe it's simply the nature of the story - there's not much you can report on really, until it arrives on Irish or British shores in large numbers and they can interview lots of Irish / Brits. But yes, strange.

The media is also happy to scare people about Ebola, but plenty of silence on Corona.

Lyanna Salty Toadstool wrote: »

How do we know though?

No knowledge or testing available until late December/Early January.

It was a particularly rampant dose, worse than a regular cold too. I know several people who were hospitalised with it.

It's possible, maybe not likely but certainly possible. This thing could already be around a long time but it was only noticed when it hit a highly populated region like China.

It might not have started there.

Exactly. This is one of the most deadly "flu" seasons in a lot of places too. Maybe some of those deaths arent the flu? Apparently they dont test for it as standard except in children. When I had it and was way worse than a regular cold but didnt feel like a flu. Had an upset stomach with it too which is unusual for a cold.

To get to the level it did in china it had to have been circulating for weeks before it became widely known. We know that thousands of people travelled back and forth in that time. I think it is possible.