new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

fr336 · 23-02-2020 09:17PM

Have any women died outside China yet?

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 09:18PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

So what about Ireland Italy 6 nations game on March 7 ?
I am assuming that has next to nothing chance of going ahead at this stage ?

Nobody cares/ Rugby isn't a proper sport

Ficheall · 23-02-2020 09:18PM

MastiffMrs wrote: »

I'm planning on getting some supplies in so was doing some research today. Is powdered milk available in Ireland? I'll need a substitute for milk that has a longer shelf life. Is soya milk as awful as it used to be?!!

Almond milk is the nicest of the substitutes imo and has a decent shelf life.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 23-02-2020 09:18PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Ah come on that wasn't Covid19

How do we know though?

No knowledge or testing available until late December/Early January.

It was a particularly rampant dose, worse than a regular cold too. I know several people who were hospitalised with it.

It's possible, maybe not likely but certainly possible. This thing could already be around a long time but it was only noticed when it hit a highly populated region like China.

It might not have started there.

DrumSteve · 23-02-2020 09:19PM

I'm genuinely gonna have an anxiety attack if I keep reading this thread.

MarkY91 · 23-02-2020 09:19PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

The only solution is to suspend all flights to and from everywhere now.

Can you see that happening?

I'm off to Singapore, Thailand and Philippines on 1st of April. I'm hoping there's no flight restrictions.

pc7 · 23-02-2020 09:19PM

It’s not just the virus is the worry, it’s the strain it will put on our all ready strained health service.

Nijmegen · 23-02-2020 09:19PM

MastiffMrs wrote: »

I'm planning on getting some supplies in so was doing some research today. Is powdered milk available in Ireland? I'll need a substitute for milk that has a longer shelf life. Is soya milk as awful as it used to be?!!

There’s guides available online. Just add a bit to your shop and have a think about the sidebar stuff you need - pet food and suchlike. It’s not gonna be a nuclear holocaust, I doubt you’ll need a ham radio...

CinemaGuy45 · 23-02-2020 09:19PM

Ficheall wrote: »

Yeah, this is the bit I'm having an issue with. Can you provide a link that shows the coronavirus has a higher survival rate than the flu does?

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 09:20PM

Can we just get out of the way this is much much more dangerous than normal flu. That has been confirmed by experts the world over.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 23-02-2020 09:21PM

fr336 wrote: »

Have any women died outside China yet?

Yeah in Italy.

TomSweeney · 23-02-2020 09:21PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

I'm genuinely gonna have an anxiety attack if I keep reading this thread.

I try and stay positive but realistic.

Positives
Italy / South Korea should give real data and give us a better picture on what the rates are ...
Children seem to avoid serious cases - very good news.
Weather will gradually get warmer - hopefully it will slow it down ...

We all know the negatives ...

fr336 · 23-02-2020 09:21PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

Are the media being told to keep it upbeat to avoid panic ?

It's very strange, not necessarily because of Corona but because when it comes to terrorism and other issues they can't get enough of terrifying people 24/7. Then again maybe it's simply the nature of the story - there's not much you can report on really, until it arrives on Irish or British shores in large numbers and they can interview lots of Irish / Brits. But yes, strange.

Nijmegen · 23-02-2020 09:22PM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Can we just get out of the way this is much much more dangerous than normal flu. That has been confirmed by experts the world over.

It’s also incremental to the normal flu. Even if it only had the same impact, you could effectively double up the deaths if it spread uncontrolled. So it doesn’t really matter what the eventual death rate will be, if we know about it and can try stem it.

BanditLuke · 23-02-2020 09:22PM

pc7 wrote: »

It’s not just the virus is the worry, it’s the strain it will put on our all ready strained health service.

Still can't believe people aren't getting this point.

TomSweeney · 23-02-2020 09:23PM

btw there was some radio segment on earlier , on RTE ? did anyone listen to it ?

Probably nothing to worry about unless you were in mainland China in the last 14 days ... FUXAKE!!

all about the mane · 23-02-2020 09:23PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Nobody is making fun of the dead.

This subject is not funny in the least but better to keep our sprits up.

The enemy here is a virus we are ALL potential targets.

On the off chance it gets me I am not going to spend what time I have left worried and depressed.:)

What a trooper

Mic 1972 · 23-02-2020 09:23PM

was talking to some friends in Italy earlier on, in the infected areas people are basically living Wuhan life, one day everything was fine the next day there are police cars with loud speakers going around inviting people to stay in. Apparently there is an emergency plan to bring food to the shops, but for the moment the shelves are empty, all changed in one day

https://video.corriere.it/milano/coronavirus-assalto-supermercati-milano-immagini-scaffali-vuoti/cacf6b4e-5664-11ea-b447-d9646dbdb12a

Nijmegen · 23-02-2020 09:26PM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

was talking to some friends in Italy earlier on, in the infected areas people are basically living Wuhan life, one day everything was fine the next day there are police cars with loud speakers going around inviting people to stay in. Apparently there is an emergency plan to bring food to the shops, but for the moment the shelves are empty, all in one day

https://video.corriere.it/milano/coronavirus-assalto-supermercati-milano-immagini-scaffali-vuoti/cacf6b4e-5664-11ea-b447-d9646dbdb12a

Let me just look about 500 pages up thread to the “when it goes, it goes quickly” warnings....

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-02-2020 09:26PM

fr336 wrote: »

Have any women died outside China yet?

Only aul blokes catch this man-flu^
By 2022 it will be 500 wimins to every chappie.

Kate Beckindalewatserface if you're reading, can offer to place you within my top5 choice selections for the future human re-production program. Oh and that weather girl, lucy-verasamymajig also, she has a very nice smile.

^jest

embraer170 · 23-02-2020 09:26PM

fr336 wrote: »

It's very strange, not necessarily because of Corona but because when it comes to terrorism and other issues they can't get enough of terrifying people 24/7. Then again maybe it's simply the nature of the story - there's not much you can report on really, until it arrives on Irish or British shores in large numbers and they can interview lots of Irish / Brits. But yes, strange.

The media is also happy to scare people about Ebola, but plenty of silence on Corona.

Spanish Eyes · 23-02-2020 09:26PM

olestoepoke wrote: »

I'm curious, where is the right spot? Thanks

San Pedro de Alcantara. For us anyway. Estepona is the next lovely spot. We work between both.

ceadaoin. · 23-02-2020 09:30PM

Lyanna Salty Toadstool wrote: »

How do we know though?

No knowledge or testing available until late December/Early January.

It was a particularly rampant dose, worse than a regular cold too. I know several people who were hospitalised with it.

It's possible, maybe not likely but certainly possible. This thing could already be around a long time but it was only noticed when it hit a highly populated region like China.

It might not have started there.

Exactly. This is one of the most deadly "flu" seasons in a lot of places too. Maybe some of those deaths arent the flu? Apparently they dont test for it as standard except in children. When I had it and was way worse than a regular cold but didnt feel like a flu. Had an upset stomach with it too which is unusual for a cold.

To get to the level it did in china it had to have been circulating for weeks before it became widely known. We know that thousands of people travelled back and forth in that time. I think it is possible.

Mic 1972 · 23-02-2020 09:30PM

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

Only aul blokes catch this man-flu^
By 2022 it will be 500 wimins to every chappie.

Kate Beckindalewatserface if you're reading, can offer to place you within my top5 choice selections for the future human re-production program. Oh and that weather girl, lucy-verasamymajig also, she has a very nice smile.

^jest

:D:D

and yes, of course women have died outside of China too. One died in italy yesterday

babybuilder · 23-02-2020 09:32PM

In contact with a teacher in Milan. All schools closed. Major shutdown.

darjeeling · 23-02-2020 09:32PM

Lyanna Salty Toadstool wrote: »

How do we know though?

No knowledge or testing available until late December/Early January.

It was a particularly rampant dose, worse than a regular cold too. I know several people who were hospitalised with it.

It's possible, maybe not likely but certainly possible. This thing could already be around a long time but it was only noticed when it hit a highly populated region like China.

It might not have started there.

It is not possible, based on multiple independent lines of evidence.

Here are some:

All SARS-CoV-2 whole genome sequences isolated around the world show high similarity and can be traced back to a recent single origin estimated around Dec 2019, in China.

If the virus were already circulating here it would have been picked up at high levels in the tests done so far - >5k in the UK alone, with a handful of positives, all traceable to recent travel to China or contact with people who have recently travelled to China.

Meanwhile, regular flu surveillance in the UK and here *did* identify flu viruses in symptomatic people over the winter period.
There is extensive weekly reporting in both countries (indeed all developed nations) on which flu strains are circulating and how prevalent they are. What we had in December was flu.

ldy4mxonucwsq6 · 23-02-2020 09:32PM

Austria has already suspended all trains in and out of Italy.

A big worry for anyone travelling abroad soon would be getting stuck in a lock down somewhere.

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-02-2020 09:33PM

TomSweeney wrote: »

Positives
Weather will gradually get warmer - hopefully it will slow it down ...
.

This is true, but often it just moves to the Southern Hem, the Aussies catch their cold when it's gets sunny in Lapland, then switches back to the North for the following season.

The H1N1 is still kicking about and mutating slightly over in the States, this one might (hopefully not) be around for a decade or so.

pc7 · 23-02-2020 09:34PM

Just came on to post the same, all trains now https://twitter.com/bnodesk/status/1231688863191617536?s=21

23-02-2020 09:34PM

MastiffMrs wrote: »

I'm planning on getting some supplies in so was doing some research today. Is powdered milk available in Ireland? I'll need a substitute for milk that has a longer shelf life. Is soya milk as awful as it used to be?!!

I can’t see it on Tesco’s website but you can get it in Asda if you’re near Northern Ireland.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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