Dribble bar

mengele · 27-05-2019 6:39pm #1

Did anyone price a new dribblebar for the slurry tank lately. Can you get 40 percent grant on just the dribble bar or do you need to buy a new tank with it?

lab man · 27-05-2019 8:09pm

Fairly sure u can get the grant just for the unit without the tank

Sugarbowl · 27-05-2019 11:42pm

I heard of someone paying 10k+ for just the attachment alone.

oneten · 28-05-2019 4:41am

Priced a few dealers all coming in a little over 10k plus vat for bar only

dmakc · 28-05-2019 8:36am

What is the minimum tanker size you'd need? 1300 too small?

Keep Sluicing · 28-05-2019 10:35am

oneten wrote: »

Priced a few dealers all coming in a little over 10k plus vat for bar only

Is a lot of the cost of these dribble bars the maserator? Can they be made with out a maserator

alps · 28-05-2019 10:50am

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

Is a lot of the cost of these dribble bars the maserator? Can they be made with out a maserator

Yes..

Tramspread, a company in Suffolk make them..saw a price around the 4000 euro mark, but may be wrong

PoorFarmer · 28-05-2019 10:59am

Will the dribble bar survive? Or will it go the way the raingun has and splashplate undoubtedly will?

Keep Sluicing · 28-05-2019 11:06am

PoorFarmer wrote: »

Will the dribble bar survive? Or will it go the way the raingun has and splashplate undoubtedly will?

I think we'll be allowed the dribble bar for at least the next 8 to 10 years. There isnt much emission difference between it and the trailing shoe. Altho I'm a big fan of the trailing shoe.

But the splashplate days are numbered. The moscha will probably be gone to in the next 2 to 3 years with it.

Saying that, there's a few farmers in the area with upwards facing splashplate still.

stretch film · 28-05-2019 2:49pm

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

I think we'll be allowed the dribble bar for at least the next 8 to 10 years. There isnt much emission difference between it and the trailing shoe. Altho I'm a big fan of the trailing shoe.

But the splashplate days are numbered. The moscha will probably be gone to in the next 2 to 3 years with it.

Saying that, there's a few farmers in the area with upwards facing splashplate still.

Moscha is LESS in Germany so the Irish agent says.

_Brian · 28-05-2019 4:21pm

Surely if slurry is well agitated a straight dribble bar should be fine.

For small farms it is a massive cost.

Can’t deny if it’s absolutely closed on the splash plate a fella would be considering making something to pass.

€4K seems an awful lot for a bit of pipewoek. Is it stainless ?

Donald Trump · 28-05-2019 4:22pm

alps wrote: »

Yes..

Tramspread, a company in Suffolk make them..saw a price around the 4000 euro mark, but may be wrong

Wouldn't chance that for anything more than spreading water

I'd say your heart would be broken unblocking it with slurry between stray clumps of straw or silage

Mushy06 · 21-06-2019 11:47am

What kind of hp would you want 2000G tanker with dribble bar?

Donald Trump · 21-06-2019 1:14pm

Mushy06 wrote: »

What kind of hp would you want 2000G tanker with dribble bar?

I'd say that really depends on your ground.

Doesn't take much to run the actual vacuum pump. So you you need a big enough yoke to handle the weight behind you really

Although my reference is splash plate. I assume there is not much more to pushing it through a dribble bar.

If you have one of those injection jobs, then you are going up a lot for sure though. I hear they can be difficult to pull

FarmerDougal · 21-06-2019 1:46pm

Mushy06 wrote: »

What kind of hp would you want 2000G tanker with dribble bar?

Running one here on 100 hp , wouldn’t like any less tbh cos your not spreading as wide so have drive a bit faster

Mushy06 · 02-07-2019 8:54pm

thanks for reply lads

K.G. · 23-02-2020 8:43pm

Just looking at tankprices
Ordinary tank is 18k
Same make with trailing shoe 36k
I know the tyres can be speced different but it still feels like they are profiting on the grant.interesting to see the price when the grant goes

Reggie. · 23-02-2020 9:03pm

K.G. wrote: »

Just looking at tankprices
Ordinary tank is 18k
Same make with trailing shoe 36k
I know the tyres can be speced different but it still feels like they are profiting on the grant.interesting to see the price when the grant goes

Welcome to the world of machinery

23-02-2020 9:14pm

Reggie. wrote: »

Welcome to the world of machinery

The world of grants

stanflt · 23-02-2020 9:16pm

K.G. wrote: »

Just looking at tankprices
Ordinary tank is 18k
Same make with trailing shoe 36k
I know the tyres can be speced different but it still feels like they are profiting on the grant.interesting to see the price when the grant goes

You didn’t price a belmac then- cheap and nothing wrong with them

mengele · 23-02-2020 9:18pm

stanflt wrote: »

You didn’t price a belmac then- cheap and nothing wrong with them

Have they improved the paint on their machines? Nothing worse than looking at a 2 or 3 year old machine with poor paint on it.

stanflt · 23-02-2020 9:31pm

mengele wrote: »

Have they improved the paint on their machines? Nothing worse than looking at a 2 or 3 year old machine with poor paint on it.

It’s not something that bothers me tbh- I much prefer a machine to work when you want it to and do the job it’s supposed to than how it looks

Reggie. · 23-02-2020 9:45pm

mengele wrote: »

Have they improved the paint on their machines? Nothing worse than looking at a 2 or 3 year old machine with poor paint on it.

I've a belmac 2500 here and to be honest if the machine is working there wont be much of the paintwork to be seen anyways

ruwithme · 23-02-2020 9:48pm

mengele wrote: »

Have they improved the paint on their machines? Nothing worse than looking at a 2 or 3 year old machine with poor paint on it.

Have to agree with you on this.
I think it's a area on which many machinery manufacturers let themselves down.
the exception being some of the foreign grass machinery manufacturers

Gods Gift · 23-02-2020 10:01pm

Got ours galvanised.

K.G. · 23-02-2020 10:17pm

When is the last possible date to apply for the grant

hopeso · 23-02-2020 11:39pm

Someone told me that dribble bars are banned in Holland now, and secondhand ones can be bought there easy enough. Has anyone else heard this?

Reggie. · 23-02-2020 11:58pm

hopeso wrote: »

Someone told me that dribble bars are banned in Holland now, and secondhand ones can be bought there easy enough. Has anyone else heard this?

How do they get the slurry out

hopeso · 24-02-2020 12:09am

Reggie. wrote: »

How do they get the slurry out

I don't know...trailing shoe maybe?
It was just something I was told...I don't know how accurate it is.....

Reggie. · 24-02-2020 12:11am

hopeso wrote: »

I don't know...trailing shoe maybe?
It was just something I was told...I don't know how accurate it is.....

Ah find it hard to believe. I see very little between trailing shoe and dribble bar even tho the experts will tell ya the shoe is miles ahead. I just dont see it

hopeso · 24-02-2020 12:17am

Reggie. wrote: »

Ah find it hard to believe. I see very little between trailing shoe and dribble bar even tho the experts will tell ya the shoe is miles ahead. I just dont see it

You could be right...I suppose it's unlikely that Holland, or any other country would impose stricter rules than the rest of the E.U. upon themselves

alps · 24-02-2020 12:46am

hopeso wrote: »

You could be right...I suppose it's unlikely that Holland, or any other country would impose stricter rules than the rest of the E.U. upon themselves

They would....and so would Denmark and France and Belgium and Germany...

We have it soft...

Every load spread in Belgium must have a gps printout of where it was spread and thats after the batch had been sampled to guage spreading rates..

mahoney_j · 24-02-2020 10:23am

Reggie. wrote: »

Ah find it hard to believe. I see very little between trailing shoe and dribble bar even tho the experts will tell ya the shoe is miles ahead. I just dont see it

I used both and think t shoe is way better

Gods Gift · 24-02-2020 10:37am

Shoe is way better, on any height of grass.
If slurry gets onto leaves of growing grass and dries quickly, a power washer wouldn’t get it off.

jaymla627 · 24-02-2020 12:20pm

K.G. wrote: »

Just looking at tankprices
Ordinary tank is 18k
Same make with trailing shoe 36k
I know the tyres can be speced different but it still feels like they are profiting on the grant.interesting to see the price when the grant goes

Bought a ex-demo galavinsied 2600 hi-spec, trailing shoe/injector ready for 19000 back in 18 that was 4 year old but had no work done only drawing water for a sprayer 10 times a year, list price of tank new was 26,000, a 2300 gallon hi-spec new painted at the time on 28.1 tyres instead of 30.5's and the smaller pump was 18,500....
Once you start adding extras onto a tank the price lifts alot, lads buying tams tanks with the dribble bars on the hatch are been sold a pup though, as I'd say in 5 years time anything other then trailing shoe at a minimum will only be permitted

oneten · 24-02-2020 7:35pm

Don't see there could be much difference between them in regard to what is released into the atmosphere, and if you're spreading on silage stubble there's none , or is there ?
You need another 20 horsepower to drag a trailing shoe through grass, especially on hilly ground , or so i'm told .

ruwithme · 24-02-2020 7:47pm

alps wrote: »

They would....and so would Denmark and France and Belgium and Germany...

We have it soft...

Every load spread in Belgium must have a gps printout of where it was spread and thats after the batch had been sampled to guage spreading rates..

The greens will bring a bit of a change like that here when they get settled into power ,given time

moneyheer · 24-02-2020 8:28pm

Was told by a machinery salesman that all slurry is injected in Holland and it will be the same here in years to come.

mr.stonewall · 24-02-2020 8:44pm

moneyheer wrote: »

Was told by a machinery salesman that all slurry is injected in Holland and it will be the same here in years to come.

Would the majority of that being injected be into tilled ground. Big difference to do it into permant grassland

Reggie. · 24-02-2020 9:51pm

mr.stonewall wrote: »

Would the majority of that being injected be into tilled ground. Big difference to do it into permant grassland

Yeah I think gawd was saying that it was causing issues in france

dmakc · 24-02-2020 10:07pm

Inspectors would want a much more astute eye to notice injection v dribble than dribble v splash plate...

Freejin · 25-08-2021 10:01pm

Resurrecting an old thread here, I know Mastek are probably the predominant brand macerator in Ireland, but anybody any experience with Vogelsang macerator? Apparently thats whats on Major tanks.

oneten · 26-08-2021 12:35am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117803912#Comment_117803912

if you're buying a new tank you can spec it with a mastek

or at least you could in 2019

Freejin · 26-08-2021 8:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117804344#Comment_117804344

Retro fitting here,first call I made he suggested all major dribble bars were vogelsang, I didn't push him on it mind.

Morris Moss · 26-08-2021 9:51am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117804709#Comment_117804709

Mastek is meant to be a better macerator for Irish conditions, neighbour has a vogelsgang on a major and isn't happy with it.

oneten · 27-08-2021 1:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117804709#Comment_117804709

bought mine off a major agent on condition a mastek was fitted , he made a phone call to the factory, no problem fitting a mastek.

if you're retro fitting you can choose any make you like , i went for mastek on the advice of a contractor that was familiar with macerators. its a good unit but the stone trap isnt great, doesn't catch even half the stones but i'm not contracting so its up to me to keep trash out of the tanks

Freejin · 27-08-2021 7:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117809031#Comment_117809031

Ya, spoke to another dealer who confirmed I'm not tied to the Major one. Anybody any experience with the Grass Tech one with Alrena macerator? It's hung off the chassis of the tank rather than the inspection door.

dzer2 · 27-08-2021 12:04pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117809188#Comment_117809188

Decent enough one. Anti block if the pressure builds on the hydraulics the macerator goes into reverse for 10 seconds to free itself.

westlander · 27-08-2021 2:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117810228#Comment_117810228

yep it’s a nice setup but I’d like 50 mill pipes if at all possible

Dribble bar

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