new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

CDC confirmed there is now 35 cases in the US (CNN).

tuxy wrote: »

No it would seem the person who wrote the article confused false negatives in people who had not actually recovered with reinfection.

There is no evidence of reinfection of those who have actually recovered.

Erm, there is.

all about the mane wrote: »

Covid 19 has killed 2251 people so far. Influenza has killed around 10000 in the US alone this season. We need a bit of perspective here.

This stupid comparison really needs to be put to bed. It's literally like saying 2 mins into Brazil playing San Marino, scores still level and what a great result it is. This thing is only weeks old.

Duke of Url wrote: »

It’s not stupid.

People saying Covid 19 has a 2% death rate is actually stupid.

It's beyond stupid. Do you have any evidence to contradict this number? It's been stated multiple times that if too many people get infected at once, health systems will be overwhelmed and that mortality will increase significantly. Multiple sources, multiple times have stated the critical numbers to be around 1/5, even if its slightly less, this is still enough to overwhelm the Oxygen supplies/equipment needed. Why on earth do you think we are seeing such drastic measures never seen before?

Flu has been around for hundreds of years and traversed the world many times. This is a brand new virus in humans and is viral pneumonia NOT flu. This is the perspective that's needed, not stupidly comparing it to a long established less deadly viruses for which some vaccines are already available.

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/south-korea-reports-142-more-coronavirus-cases-total-346

433 cases in South Korea, 200+ in a day

Snap... It's doubled for the last 3 days

In other news +10 In Italy

Indestructable wrote: »

The British couple who were on the cruise ship and videoing their quarantine have developed pneumonia.

Hopefully they make a full recovery. Did they have any underlying issues that may cause complications?

it sound like they are going through hell....

From the BBC:

David and Sally Abel, a couple from Northamptonshire who were diagnosed with coronavirus on the cruise ship, have since been told they have pneumonia, their son said.

Appearing alongside wife Roberta, Steve Abel said in a YouTube video late on Friday evening that his father's condition was "very serious", while his mother has a more mild form of pneumonia.

He also said his "really distressed" parents called him to say they were being moved to a different hospital.


Mr Abel said: "They've gone from being told that they're going to have all these wonderful treatments, and 'we're going to wait over the next two or three days just to see how they respond to the treatments', and now all of a sudden they're being told 'we have to move you to a different hospital'."

He said his father is so "weak" he has been using a wheelchair, and has been told he could be put on a ventilator.

The couple criticised conditions at the new hospital, saying David and Sally only had a small basin and paper towels to clean themselves with no wi-fi access, and "neither of them can eat the food".

Mr Abel said his father's "exact words" to him were: "'This has to stop now, we can't take any more of this, it's like a prison."

Steve Abel's wife Roberta said she is "incredibly angry" with the Foreign Office's handling of David and Sally's case.

She claimed after twice phoning the Foreign Office to get updates on the couple's location and health, she received a call back about seven hours later and was told they had spoken to her father-in-law and that he "may or may not be going on a ventilator".

Conceding that the Foreign Office has to deal with multiple parties and the time difference, Roberta added: "...You're dealing with people whose parents are stuck in a country where English isn't their first language, their parents are scared, we don't know what's happening to them, we don't know if they're getting the right treatment, we didn't even know where they were this morning."

The couple said they are in "massive fight mode" and are "ready" to fly to Japan to bring David and Sally home, if it comes to it.

In the meantime, they are pushing for David and Sally to be allowed to fly back to the UK via air ambulance, so they can be "looked after properly".

that is so shocking, with the Abel couple. You could get a real perspective with this how fast this sh** virus is letting people going from completely happy, healthy to dieing (hoping for the best for them!!) within what? 2-3 weeks? It's just 2-3 weeks ago they were completely healthy and happy-clappy optimisticly doing their videos from the ship. terrible.
I'm not that easily to scare but this virus is really scary.