new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

wakka12 · 21-02-2020 03:16AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/ariahychen/status/1230676537327767552
207 prisoners and staff infected at a prison in China, it seems like a ridiculously infectious disease in close quarters

bodhrandude · 21-02-2020 03:17AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah exactly. What are the chances?! With the numbers they're reporting it seems crazy that a tourist would pick it up. A tourist going to hubei sure but Iran...

Maybe they are Iranian Canadian that have settled in Canada, remember that plane that got shot down in Iran, there was 75 Iranian Canadian based passengers on that flight.

skimpydoo · 21-02-2020 03:17AM

Bad news hotline and why our health service is ****ed up https://www.thejournal.ie/cuh-radiologists-xrays-coronavirus-5014927-Feb2020/

Ficheall · 21-02-2020 03:18AM

Dunno if already posted. HSE briefing:

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1kvJpXgMPEPJE?t=324

Coronavirus bits:

A little at 7:20
Main bit is from 11:30 to 28.
Then Q&A is from 28.

wakka12 · 21-02-2020 03:19AM

Ficheall wrote: »

Dunno if already posted. HSE briefing:

https://www.pscp.tv/w/1kvJpXgMPEPJE?t=324

Coronavirus bits:

A little at 7:20
Main bit is from 11:30 to 28.
Then Q&A is from 28.

Anything of note?

wakka12 · 21-02-2020 03:21AM

Well South Korea is implementing Chinese style measures very quickly, all major rallies and public congregation events have been banned indefinitely and 3000 social welfare offices across the country have been closed. I guess they're determined not to be wuhan 2.0

fritzelly · 21-02-2020 03:26AM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Bad news hotline and why our health service is ****ed up https://www.thejournal.ie/cuh-radiologists-xrays-coronavirus-5014927-Feb2020/

So people not trained to read x rays are giving us the all clear

21-02-2020 03:26AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

Maybe they are Iranian Canadian that have settled in Canada, remember that plane that got shot down in Iran, there was 75 Iranian Canadian based passengers on that flight.

But even so.. aren't they reporting to have about 5 cases?? Qom has a population of more than 1 million. Presumably that person whether Iranian or otherwise only visited for a limited period. How did they contract it with such low numbers. Seems incredibly unlucky.

Ficheall · 21-02-2020 03:27AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Anything of note?

Arah, not really. Nothing most of the people on this thread don't already agree on. It feels to me like they're still waiting and remaining more optimistic than I am.

Your man from 22:30 to 28:30 on some general info about the virus and hygiene advice is alright, and would be good if the general public adhered to it.

bodhrandude · 21-02-2020 03:31AM

South Korean PM vows swift action as infections escalate. (Guardian)

bodhrandude · 21-02-2020 03:41AM

Deleted User wrote: »

But even so.. aren't they reporting to have about 5 cases?? Qom has a population of more than 1 million. Presumably that person whether Iranian or otherwise only visited for a limited period. How did they contract it with such low numbers. Seems incredibly unlucky.

Perhaps more widespread there than we thought. Wasn't the first Wuhan patient on 1st December nowhere near the wet market, which suggests it may have been on the loose from somewhere else. I don't really know what I'm talking about to tell you the truth, just making guesses sometimes. But I'll give you this, this must be one of the hottest threads in Boards atm.

skimpydoo · 21-02-2020 03:43AM

fritzelly wrote: »

So people not trained to read x rays are giving us the all clear

Yep.

fritzelly · 21-02-2020 03:48AM

skimpydoo wrote: »

Yep.

Dunno if anyone watches 24 hours in a and E
Often they will show the xrays and scans, they look normal to me but the experts see the problem

bodhrandude · 21-02-2020 03:50AM

Scary stuff happening in the Ukraine, protesters attacking buses carrying Chinese Evacuees. (BBC).

21-02-2020 05:24AM

15 out of 16 fully recovered in Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh look set to close schools for all of March anyways. I should find out today if I'm back at work in Hanoi next week.

ceadaoin. · 21-02-2020 06:06AM

It's so weird if this really has gotten out of control in Iran already, completely under the radar, when this doesn't seem to have happened anywhere else except the epicentre. Even if it has been spreading unnoticed for weeks in the US or Australia for example, people arent suddenly dropping dead and then being diagnosed. Seems very strange and also the timing with elections and stuff, makes you wonder if it's not something else going on there.

pc7 · 21-02-2020 07:04AM

This seems nuts https://twitter.com/helenbranswell/status/1230677330252746752?s=21

ardinn · 21-02-2020 07:12AM

pc7 wrote: »

This seems nuts https://twitter.com/helenbranswell/status/1230677330252746752?s=21

FFS - Thats fairly tragic luck

ardinn · 21-02-2020 07:38AM

Dunno who this guy is but ......

Other reports of 9 dead

https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1230576511683526656?s=20

https://twitter.com/ZzachAattack/status/1230741964967989248?s=20

ok the max dude is being called out a bit so maybe full of sh1t. There are videos however of the iranian army en route and shutting down qom

21-02-2020 08:41AM

pc7 wrote: »

This seems nuts https://twitter.com/helenbranswell/status/1230677330252746752?s=21

The 57-year-old Singaporean, who is case 82, is the only known person here with both diseases, MOH said.

21-02-2020 09:12AM

From about 7 mins on this goes into Dengue, MERs, SARs and ADE (i.e reinfections, vaccines) and how Covid 19 is looking like it could be similar to Dengue.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/coronavirus-crisis-is-worse-than-we-thought-coronavirus/id122415315?i=1000466200562

S Korea reported to be up to 204 now
https://www.forexlive.com/news/!/south-korea-confirms-another-48-new-coronavirus-cases-brings-total-to-204-cases-20200221

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-election-khamenei-idUSKBN20F0J0?taid=5e4f91076831d00001c4c91c&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

DUBAI (Reuters) - Casting a vote in Iran’s parliamentary election is “a religious duty”, the country’s top authority Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei reiterated on Friday after voting in Tehran, broadcast live on state TV.

“Voting is a religious duty ... which will also guarantee the national interests of Iran ... I am urging Iranians to vote early,” Khamenei said.

laurah591 · 21-02-2020 09:43AM

ceadaoin. wrote: »

It's so weird if this really has gotten out of control in Iran already, completely under the radar, when this doesn't seem to have happened anywhere else except the epicentre. Even if it has been spreading unnoticed for weeks in the US or Australia for example, people arent suddenly dropping dead and then being diagnosed. Seems very strange and also the timing with elections and stuff, makes you wonder if it's not something else going on there.

Yes with the elections today, timing of first case and the movement of riot police to Qom is pretty suspicious. Very difficult to trust anything from this regime.

There was a suspect case in Iran 2 weeks ago aswell, one wonders if she was indeed positive given how widespread this is. I believe Qom is a very important religious place in Iran with alot of pilgrimages arc- does anyone know if there was something on in the last 2 week's that the administration wanted to remain open (No grounded) Feels a bit like the Wuhue dinner

cnocbui · 21-02-2020 10:19AM

The number of new coronavirus cases may be dropping in China, but a health expert has made a grim discovery about some patients who have recovered.

"We should not be relaxed. The figure may go up again," said Zhao Jianping, who is leading an expert team working to contain the outbreak in Hubei.

He said there were cases where recovered patients showed traces of the virus through nucleic acid tests.

There were also results in Canada where swabs taken from two people who had recovered revealed they still had traces of the virus, reports news.com.au.

"This is dangerous. Where do you put these patients? You can't send them home because they might infect others, but you can't put them in hospital as resources are stretched," he said.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12310734

That Story from Taiwan about reinfection that some have been quick to dismiss as fake, may have some credence if you allow for misunderstandings or misinterpretations along the chain from the original source.

cnocbui · 21-02-2020 10:24AM

laurah591 wrote: »

Yes with the elections today, timing of first case and the movement of riot police to Qom is pretty suspicious. Very difficult to trust anything from this regime.

There was a suspect case in Iran 2 weeks ago aswell, one wonders if she was indeed positive given how widespread this is. I believe Qom is a very important religious place in Iran with alot of pilgrimages arc- does anyone know if there was something on in the last 2 week's that the administration wanted to remain open (No grounded) Feels a bit like the Wuhue dinner

The Iranian authorities may be worried about the pretty negative reaction by the public to them shooting down the Ukrainian 737 full of Iranians and then going after the person who leaked the video that showed the missile strikes. What happened to him, anyway?

timmyntc · 21-02-2020 10:30AM

cnocbui wrote: »

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12310734

That Story from Taiwan about reinfection that some have been quick to dismiss as fake, may have some credence if you allow for misunderstandings or misinterpretations along the chain from the original source.

Is this not similar to most viral infections though?
You are fully recovered when the level of virus is low enough that symptoms ease off - not when every single virus in your body is gone.

If it's proven that low levels of the virus can remain in a person long term after feeling recovered - then it's an issue.

wakka12 · 21-02-2020 10:38AM

50 more cases in South Korea, 204 now.

drunkmonkey · 21-02-2020 10:48AM

We're sleep walking into this if it's in Italy over a month, https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=it&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://milano.repubblica.it/cronaca/2020/02/21/news/coronavirus_a_milano_contaggiato_38enne_e_un_italiano_ricoverato_a_codogno-249121707/&usg=ALkJrhiRh-Mg7OuLT3gLYOtlZ0EerH0M6w&refresh_ce

cnocbui · 21-02-2020 10:48AM

timmyntc wrote: »

Is this not similar to most viral infections though?
You are fully recovered when the level of virus is low enough that symptoms ease off - not when every single virus in your body is gone.

If it's proven that low levels of the virus can remain in a person long term after feeling recovered - then it's an issue.

It's pretty clear from the experts quote that this is an unwelcome discovery, so it can hardly be the norm, otherwise it wouldn't have been unexpected and so rate as a "grim discovery".

SeaBreezes · 21-02-2020 11:00AM

Tara where are you?

Amid the continued spread of the COVID-19 virus,... there's rising speculation the virus could have originated from a government laboratory in Wuhan rather than the widely-held belief that it emerged from the city's Huanan seafood markets.
Citing a report published by Chinese scientists,... a Chinese-language newspaper published in Hong Kong, Ming Pao, and the British daily, The Mirror explained Sunday that the Wuhan Center for Disease Control, or WHCDC, could have spawned the contagion in Hubei Province.
According to the report penned by Botao Xiao and Lei Xiao of the South China University of Technology,... the research lab, which is only 280 meters away from the Huanan seafood market,... kept disease-ridden animals including more than 600 bats.
It stated that while it's plausible the virus was leaked from the lab and contaminated initial patients in this epidemic,... more solid evidence is required through future study

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZC0gww2yznI

21-02-2020 11:00AM

Another week off for me. Almost certainly not getting paid for all this so if it goes another month or two, it's gonna start to bite.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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