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Discrediting old irish legends

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  • #62
    Hangdogroad
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    fryup wrote: »
    how about that mad nutter Matt Talbot walking the streets wrapped in chains and kittens in his coat pockets....saintly man? he was in need of professional help ffs!

    only in Ireland would they name a bridge after such a person

    A larger than life character up there with Bang Bang and Fortycoats.


  • #63
    [Deleted User]
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    Widdershins wrote: »
    Artistic people can have very strong/colourful/obnoxious/bizarre personalities. I guess it'sometimes a sign of curiosity about that.

    That's what I always think whenever I see actors doing anything political or using awards ceremonies to rant against trump. Basically these are people whose job is to pretend to be other people.


  • #64
    Carry
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    JohnnyFlash wrote: »
    (...) Journalism and writing have always been professions/callings that have attracted degenerates and drunks.

    Says the man with no imagination or creative talent?
    I (as a writer) could take that as an insult, but I try to be benign here and keep your comment as an inspiration to write about the dimness that prevails in so-called normal people :cool:

    seamus wrote: »
    There's a bit of chicken-and-egg stuff when it comes to artists and substance abuse issues.

    The lifestyle of being a full-time artist lends itself to lots of downtime and socialising...and drinking.

    People with more stable 9-to-5 jobs don't really have the free time to be going to the pub every night, or the freedom to be getting out of bed at 11am hungover on a Wednesday.

    This was as true in 1850 and 1950 as it is today.


    I think you have no idea how an artistic lifestyle works. This is all prejudice made up by novels, films and the general idea that creativity can only occur when under the influence.

    I don't have much "downtime" and hardly socialise because I don't have the time and energy to do so after burning the midnight candle to get my work done. Drinking alcohol doesn't play a role at all, because it impairs creative thinking, at least from a certain amount.

    People with more stable 9 to 5 jobs, as you call them, have far more free time, because they can stop thinking of work when they leave their work at 5. An artist/writer/journalist never leaves their work and can't afford to be hungover for a full day.


  • #65
    [Deleted User]
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    Carry wrote: »
    Says the man with no imagination or creative talent?
    I (as a writer) could take that as an insult, but I try to be benign here and keep your comment as an inspiration to write about the dimness that prevails in so-called normal people :cool:





    I think you have no idea how an artistic lifestyle works. This is all prejudice made up by novels, films and the general idea that creativity can only occur when under the influence.

    I don't have much "downtime" and hardly socialise because I don't have the time and energy to do so after burning the midnight candle to get my work done. Drinking alcohol doesn't play a role at all, because it impairs creative thinking, at least from a certain amount.

    People with more stable 9 to 5 jobs, as you call them, have far more free time, because they can stop thinking of work when they leave their work at 5. An artist/writer/journalist never leaves their work and can't afford to be hungover for a full day.

    Martyrdom is imminent. Let me know when you achieve full sainthood.


  • #66
    Carry
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Martyrdom is imminent. Let me know when you achieve full sainthood.

    Will do :D


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  • #67
    Seamai
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    If today someone was found collapsed on the street with a load of chains inside their clothes the first conclusion people would jump to was that he was a sado masochist.


  • #68
    partyguinness
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    My grandmother's 1st cousin was a very well known Irish poet (as Gaeilge)- he died in the 70s and we all studied him for Leaving Cert. Banned from RTE for being too pro Republican.

    An awful bollixx by all accounts but ground breaking as a poet.


  • #69
    JohnnyFlash
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    Carry wrote: »
    Says the man with no imagination or creative talent?
    I (as a writer) could take that as an insult, but I try to be benign here and keep your comment as an inspiration to write about the dimness that prevails in so-called normal people :cool:





    I think you have no idea how an artistic lifestyle works. This is all prejudice made up by novels, films and the general idea that creativity can only occur when under the influence.

    I don't have much "downtime" and hardly socialise because I don't have the time and energy to do so after burning the midnight candle to get my work done. Drinking alcohol doesn't play a role at all, because it impairs creative thinking, at least from a certain amount.

    People with more stable 9 to 5 jobs, as you call them, have far more free time, because they can stop thinking of work when they leave their work at 5. An artist/writer/journalist never leaves their work and can't afford to be hungover for a full day.

    It’s not my fault your chosen profession is associated with bone idle drunkards who go on and on and on about how torturous it is trying to tap into the creative genius they’ve identified in themselves.


  • #70
    [Deleted User]
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    Seamai wrote: »
    If today someone was found collapsed on the street with a load of chains inside their clothes the first conclusion people would jump to was that he was a sado masochist.

    Times were more innocent as well everything was not out there, a lot of the martyers and saint of the catholic church were by today's standards mentally ill.

    Is it any wose that an ex-alcoholic or addict changing their addiction to running or cycling in today's society.


  • #71
    partyguinness
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    I lived in West Kerry for a few years and I encountered a lot of crusty dossers passing themselves off as "artists" i.e. spending an awful lot of time in the pub feeling sorry for themselves and spouting unbelievable **** to anyone unfortunate enough to be standing too close or else filling US tourists with all sorts of crap in trying to get the ride.

    In reality they were just dossers who couldn't handle real life and opted out at the taxpayers expense.

    The real actual productive artists you never saw and they just got an with it.


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  • #72
    She is d.i.s.c.o
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    Not discrediting him but someone told me that one of the reasons Hugh O'Neill, the Earl of Tyrone was so successful for so long during the nine years war was because queen Elizabeth fancied him.

    I cant find anything on it and my history is not good enough to piece any truth in it together but it could be true :)


  • #73
    Hangdogroad
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    The story that goes when asked what does it feel to be the world's greatest guitarist Jimi Hendrix supposedly said "I dunno, ask Rory Gallagher". There's no evidence that he ever said this.


  • #74
    Ipso
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    She is d.i.s.c.o wrote: »
    Not discrediting him but someone told me that one of the reasons Hugh O'Neill, the Earl of Tyrone was so successful for so long during the nine years war was because queen Elizabeth fancied him.

    I cant find anything on it and my history is not good enough to piece any truth in it together but it could be true :)

    He played both sides of the conflict. When the Spanish landed in Kinsale, he plundered his rivals for weeks and then decided to head south.


  • #75
    Ipso
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    Hangdogroad wrote: »
    The story that goes when asked what does it feel to be the world's greatest guitarist Jimi Hendrix supposedly said "I dunno, ask Rory Gallagher". There's no evidence that he ever said this.

    It’s one of those “insert favourite guitar player here” stories. And it can be Eric Clapton being interviewed.


  • #76
    Your Face
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    Ipso wrote: »
    It’s one of those “insert favourite guitar player here” stories. And it can be Eric Clapton being interviewed.
    Billy Gibbons in the one I heard.


  • #77
    JohnnyFlash
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    Ipso wrote: »
    He played both sides of the conflict. When the Spanish landed in Kinsale, he plundered his rivals for weeks and then decided to head south.

    You wouldn’t expect much else from someone from Tyrone tbh.


  • #78
    Feisar
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    gozunda wrote: »
    Re Discrediting old irish legends

    ?

    Is this part of the new English Leaving Cert syllabus then or something?

    I thought it was going to be about Fionn mac Cumhaill

    First they came for the socialists...



  • #79
    L1011
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    partyguinness wrote: »
    My grandmother's 1st cousin was a very well known Irish poet (as Gaeilge)- he died in the 70s and we all studied him for Leaving Cert. Banned from RTE for being too pro Republican.

    An awful bollixx by all accounts but ground breaking as a poet.

    RTE were forced in to those bans tbh (by Conor Cruise O'Brien), the Broadcasting Act took a few people off-air, Éammon Mac Thomáis being probably the biggest loss.


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