new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

SeaBreezes · 19-02-2020 01:20AM

fritzelly wrote: »

His final words

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSgIOeMRAUI

How heartbreaking. His poor son in the UK how bereft he must feel. So much loss.

1800_Ladladlad · 19-02-2020 01:49AM

Russia has issued a temporary ban on all Chinese citizens entering the country for tourism, work and for private purposes. Should this not have been done from the start or would that be an extreme?

anto9 · 19-02-2020 01:53AM

Russia has done the right thing .

wakka12 · 19-02-2020 01:56AM

Just 55 new cases in all the rest of China. Seems like a load of bs. Millions of people left Wuhab in early Jan, it's impossible to believe there are so few cases ongoing in major cities like Shanghai and Beijing which didn't experience harsh lockdowns and quarantines. There are more cases emerging in Singapore and Tokyo in the last few days than China's biggest cities

wakka12 · 19-02-2020 02:21AM

15 new cases in South Korea
10 of the 15 are thought to have been infected by one person
There's now multiple examples outside China of infected persons infecting up to a dozen other people in just a few days

ardinn · 19-02-2020 03:06AM

Ten of Swords wrote: »

Leave out the unverified whataboutery

No - I stated it was unverified, but its interesting in relation to the virus, are countries downplaying their cases, and severity other than china.

fritzelly · 19-02-2020 03:17AM

This is interesting reading - if true it opens up a whole load more questions

https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/chinese-news-51540821

ardinn · 19-02-2020 03:23AM

BanditLuke wrote: »

Its hard to hide all the bodies I'm guessing. God knows what happens when they unseal all those apartment blocks they've entombed people in.

Unverified.

https://twitter.com/234v244/status/1229953368719642629?s=20

4068ac1elhodqr · 19-02-2020 03:27AM

fritzelly wrote: »

This is interesting reading - if true it opens up a whole load more questions

https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/chinese-news-51540821

If you can read simple Chinese, otherwise (en):

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-51540981
It finds that( average): 80.9% of infections are classified as mild, 13.8% as severe and only 4.7% as critical (older and males at more elevated % risk).

ardinn · 19-02-2020 03:48AM

Its a very bad sign when north korea, are reporting this much more factually and informatively than the rest of the world. Actually explaining the disease in a very transparent manner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI_MG3ZnDak

bodhrandude · 19-02-2020 04:15AM

I know this is from February 4th but cow dung or urine as a cure for coronavirus?
Strange article.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/coronavirus-cure-cow-urine-cowdung-corona-virus-vaccine-chakrapani-maharaj-585642

ZX7R · 19-02-2020 04:18AM

bodhrandude wrote: »

I know this is from February 4th but cow dung or urine as a cure for coronavirus?
Strange article.

https://www.indiatvnews.com/news/india/coronavirus-cure-cow-urine-cowdung-corona-virus-vaccine-chakrapani-maharaj-585642

Only from an Indian cow'

I call bull ****:pac:

laurah591 · 19-02-2020 06:43AM

Hong Kong has reported its 2nd death, a 70 year old with an underlying condition. He was admitted 5 days ago to hospital.

charlietheminxx · 19-02-2020 07:47AM

It’s really weird watching the passengers of the Diamond Princess disembark, where do they go now? The testing for the virus has proved to be unreliable, the ship was like a Petri dish - are they going to be quarantined somewhere else?

Unearthly · 19-02-2020 08:16AM

How is it looking in terms of cases outside of China and the rate it's growing? I know the cruise accounted for a lot of confirmed cases but are there signs it is not spreading as fast as initially thought?

UK haven't had a confirmed case in nearly a week

wellwhynot · 19-02-2020 08:41AM

Sure it will be grand.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/irish-pair-home-after-virus-cruise-were-not-screened-38970354.html

What about the other people on the plane? Don’t understand why it was decided not to quarantine. What about the immune compromised on the plane? Were they informed?

19-02-2020 08:59AM

wellwhynot wrote: »

Sure it will be grand.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/irish-pair-home-after-virus-cruise-were-not-screened-38970354.html

What about the other people on the plane? Don’t understand why it was decided not to quarantine. What about the immune compromised on the plane? Were they informed?

What about the people they were queuing beside whilst waiting to go through airport security? They are the completely unknown group as those people would have been branching off to flights all over the world.

Easy to get the flight details and passengers on the plane they travelled on but everyone else?

Didn’t the Cambodian president/prime minister kiss all the passengers who disembarked the Westerdam?

wakka12 · 19-02-2020 09:11AM

5 more cases in South Korea in addition to the 15 others just hours ago
SK will begin testing all patients with flu symptoms and pneumonia for ncov

wakka12 · 19-02-2020 09:14AM

Unearthly wrote: »

How is it looking in terms of cases outside of China and the rate it's growing? I know the cruise accounted for a lot of confirmed cases but are there signs it is not spreading as fast as initially thought?

UK haven't had a confirmed case in nearly a week

Very slow outside Hubei , still looks containable worldwide

Carol25 · 19-02-2020 09:31AM

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/regarding-most-recent-publication-novel-coronavirus-robert/

pc7 · 19-02-2020 09:41AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Very slow outside Hubei , still looks containable worldwide

It just seems crazy how bad Wuhan/Hubei area is affected, I'm hoping it just means that it has mutated and the strain we are seeing elsewhere is lighter strain/version.

I really hope that video of the bodies is fake, those poor poor people, it really is unfathomable what is going on.

wellwhynot · 19-02-2020 09:48AM

Carol25 wrote: »

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/regarding-most-recent-publication-novel-coronavirus-robert/

Sobering reading. I too also questioned why we were never told how long the illness lasts and how long to death.

SusanC10 · 19-02-2020 10:04AM

wellwhynot wrote: »

Sure it will be grand.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/health/irish-pair-home-after-virus-cruise-were-not-screened-38970354.html

What about the other people on the plane? Don’t understand why it was decided not to quarantine. What about the immune compromised on the plane? Were they informed?

Were they tested on arrival here in Ireland?

wadacrack · 19-02-2020 10:10AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Were they tested on arrival here in Ireland?

Sources say the Irish pair has followed all health protocols since landing back here - and Ireland remains free of the virus.

kevthegaff · 19-02-2020 10:18AM

North Korea is wonder what's happening there..

SeaBreezes · 19-02-2020 10:35AM

Carol25 wrote: »

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/regarding-most-recent-publication-novel-coronavirus-robert/

Two entire families wiped out by this virus that have made the news.

Chances of that with a 2.3% fatality rate is 2 million to one.
Age maybe a factor, but this mans wife is in ICU so that would rule out genetics.

IMHO this is looking more and more like Spanish flu mortality rate which would tie in with the actual numbers this doctor suspects (actually he thinks it worse).

That said I do think they have slowed down the spread of the virus and that in itself will save many lives.

Plus the numbers in UK, 9 infected 8 recovered, 1 still sick, seem to indicate a much better recovery rate than expected. So that's hopeful.

Mic 1972 · 19-02-2020 10:37AM

wellwhynot wrote: »

Sobering reading. I too also questioned why we were never told how long the illness lasts and how long to death.

Yep, that article is 100% correct. Not sure why people are deluding thmeselves with the 2% death rate. The data speaks for itself

Drumpot · 19-02-2020 10:37AM

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0218/1116149-coronavirus-questions-answered/

This is good to see, some questions answered. Maybe we will start to see soft communication like this as this progresses.

gozunda · 19-02-2020 10:40AM

BBC report on how people in China have not been able to access urgent medical care

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51440129

wadacrack · 19-02-2020 10:41AM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Two entire families wiped out by this virus that have made the news.

Chances of that with a 2.3% fatality rate is 2 million to one.
Age maybe a factor, but this mans wife is in ICU so that would rule out genetics.

IMHO this is looking more and more like Spanish flu mortality rate which would tie in with the actual numbers this doctor suspects (actually he thinks it worse).

That said I do think they have slowed down the spread of the virus and that in itself will save many lives.

Plus the numbers in UK, 9 infected 8 recovered, 1 still sick, seem to indicate a much better recovery rate than expected. So that's hopeful.

The data is still very variable it seems. Their was also a case of one man contracting it but members of his family who he was living had no symptoms and didn't test positive for the virus. Singapore containment strategy is encouraging and the worldwide trends are ok atm but still very early in the outbreak. A strong immune system seems to be a disadvantage for the virus also, which maybe explains why Children are not badly affected

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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