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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #6002
    silverharp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,854 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Duke of Url wrote: »
    Why do the US want to send the CDC in?

    Whats the US reputation on Whistleblowers?

    All I know is the Chinese banked on covering this up and that it would just go away. They bet wrong, they aint in a place to lecture anybody

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • #6003
    hmmm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,203 ✭✭✭✭hmmm


    Mr.Wemmick wrote: »
    Well, going by the banned video that was being passed about FB of Senator Tom Cotton whipping up fear with his barrage of hate against the Chinese, no wonder they don't want them. I'd tell them to sod off too.
    The WHO is the international body and they have been in contact since the start.

    Plenty of other nations have excellent scientists in this area (France, Russia, Swiss etc) and they don't assume they will all get invites to visit.

    The US has done nothing to get an invite, they just assumed they'd be allowed in. That might have worked in an Obama government, but the Chinese couldn't care less about doing Trump a favour.


  • #6004
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    silverharp wrote: »
    All I know is the Chinese banked on covering this up and that it would just go away. They bet wrong, they aint in a place to lecture anybody

    They are not lecturing anyone.

    Do you know about how the US treat Whistleblowers?

    Yes or No?

    Or we ignore that and only focus on China?


  • #6005
    Mr.Wemmick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Mr.Wemmick


    hmmm wrote: »
    The WHO is the international body and they have been in contact since the start.

    Plenty of other nations have excellent scientists in this area (France, Russia, Swiss etc) and they don't assume they will all get invites to visit.

    The US has done nothing to get an invite, they just assumed they'd be allowed in. That might have worked in an Obama government, but the Chinese couldn't care less about doing Trump a favour.

    Exactly. When I was sent the vid by a worried friend, I pointed out that Tom hateful Cotton is a trump man and the corona virus is a gift to that shower of fear creators and war lovers.

    I will wait for the WHO, scientists and specialist medics for my info. FB/social media is incredibly dangerous at times.

    “The fact that society believes a man who says he’s a woman, instead of a woman who says he’s not, is proof that society knows exactly who is the man and who is the woman.”

    - Jen Izaakson



  • #6006
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    8 more cases in Japan, not from the cruise ship. You will need to use Google Translate.

    https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20200214/amp/k10012286501000.html

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #6007
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    First case in Egypt - if it spreads there it will be bad for them


  • #6008
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Shivering, puking, gushing, bone pains, rapidly rising temperature, headache... a sea of misery now although I can type this between episodes... if I hadn’t taken that oral vaccine this morning I’d be getting worried. :(:)


  • #6009
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,436 ✭✭✭circadian


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Shivering, puking, gushing, bone pains, rapidly rising temperature, headache... a sea of misery now although I can type this between episodes... if I hadn’t taken that oral vaccine this morning I’d be getting worried. :(:)

    I hate some of those meds but like you say it's better than getting the real deal. Malaria meds usually send me into a paranoid delusion for about a week.

    I've had a banging head cold all week and there's a part of my subconscious saying "you got it bro, game over" no fever so I'm good.


  • #6010
    Duke of Url
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭Duke of Url


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Shivering, puking, gushing, bone pains, rapidly rising temperature, headache... a sea of misery now although I can type this between episodes... if I hadn’t taken that oral vaccine this morning I’d be getting worried. :(:)

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  • #6011
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,850 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    A strange article I came across yesterday about a Coronavirus that affects dogs in Australia, although I don't think its related to Covid-19.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1242114/Coronavirus-latest-news-Australia-canine-coronavirus-dogs-virus-infect-pets

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



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  • #6012
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,718 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    RebelButtMunch wrote: »
    I've been thinking about how much virons you need to be exposed to , to become infected. Does anyone know?
    I found one paper that says one molecule is enough. A viron is a virus particle

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090313150254.htm

    More here
    https://www.quora.com/How-many-individual-virus-are-needed-to-start-an-infection-Will-1-flu-virus-be-enough-to-make-you-sick-or-do-you-need-many-more-than-that

    tldr, it depends on the virus type


    In theory one but that will probably never be enough to cause infection. Body defences, acids etc.



    However, unlike many people think, the virus is not floating around on its own but attached to droplets or dust particles in the air. Millions could be on one droplet and if it's lucky and you aren't you will be infected.


  • #6013
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    The Olympics in Tokyo looks under serious threat


  • #6014
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,002 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    wadacrack wrote: »
    The Olympics in Tokyo looks under serious threat

    The IOC must be voiding their collective waste repositories.


  • #6015
    ObiTwoKenobi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭ObiTwoKenobi


    creditcarder wrote: »
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/fears-brit-backpacker-struck-down-21316748


    Scary situation imo. Although, they did not mention Coronavirus and I am curious where he got the pneumonia.

    Perhaps a bit early for corona virus, but something else just as dangerous. Very curious.


  • #6016
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    fritzelly wrote: »
    34 cases currently not including the ship

    https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/

    (4 new cases since that was updated from what I can tell)

    Cheers for the link. Unfortunately, my hope that this would be more-or-less confined to China is diminishing by the day. I guess that was a bit naive of me anyway. Hopefully, now that governments realise the severity of the situation, they can be proactive about it and not let it fester in the initial weeks - a la the Chinese. The heightened awareness should bring about more stringent measures, and to be fair it seems that a few of those Japanese cases are already traced to the source of infection - which is good, as the authorities can follow-up accordingly. I know the numbers outside of China are growing day-by-day, but hopefully the rate of this growth remains low (relative to China anyway). As others have alluded to, the next week will tell us a lot.


  • #6017
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    dwayneshintzy wrote: »
    Hong Kong schools closed till March 16, at least

    A month from now... Chaos.


  • #6018
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    dominatinMC wrote: »
    Cheers for the link. Unfortunately, my hope that this would be more-or-less confined to China is diminishing by the day. I guess that was a bit naive of me anyway. Hopefully, now that governments realise the severity of the situation, they can be proactive about it and not let it fester in the initial weeks - a la the Chinese. The heightened awareness should bring about more stringent measures, and to be fair it seems that a few of those Japanese cases are already traced to the source of infection - which is good, as the authorities can follow-up accordingly. I know the numbers outside of China are growing day-by-day, but hopefully the rate of this growth remains low (relative to China anyway). As others have alluded to, the next week will tell us a lot.

    Apart from the infected man in London going to a Bus convention with 250 other (possible?) bus drivers...
    it's all fine, just the flu...


  • #6019
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    wadacrack wrote: »
    The Olympics in Tokyo looks under serious threat

    Link? All I've heard is that they were determined that it would not be cancelled


  • #6020
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    wadacrack wrote: »
    The Olympics in Tokyo looks under serious threat

    That will be the least of our worries by then. Think closer to home we will soon see Premiership football games being called off and concerts and the like.


  • #6021
    ObiTwoKenobi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭ObiTwoKenobi


    Just thinking about this. What are the chances that there are two viruses in circulation in China and beyond? Could it even be that the corona virus has mutated into a less (or more) harmful strain which is also in circulation at the same time as a previous strain. Any opinions on whether that is possible and/or likely?


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  • #6022
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,113 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Link? All I've heard is that they were determined that it would not be cancelled

    Still a long way off yet - if the virus continues on it won't be a case of cancelling, they'll be no countries going there to start with


  • #6023
    dominatinMC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭dominatinMC


    SeaBreezes wrote: »
    Apart from the infected man in London going to a Bus convention with 250 other (possible?) bus drivers...
    it's all fine, just the flu...

    I never tried to downplay it as just the flu. Unless you can otherwise quote me?


  • #6024
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,109 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The coming spring/summer is best chance of bringing this under control. Apparently the virus will not cope well in higher temps outside of winter. Until then chaos.


  • #6025
    kenmc
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,283 ✭✭✭kenmc


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The coming spring/summer is best chance of bringing this under control. Apparently the virus will not cope well in higher temps outside of winter. Until then chaos.

    Singapore not exactly cold though....


  • #6026
    ObiTwoKenobi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭ObiTwoKenobi


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The coming spring/summer is best chance of bringing this under control. Apparently the virus will not cope well in higher temps outside of winter. Until then chaos.

    But it's always winter somewhere in the world. That's why viruses circulate the world and show up again (or a mutation) in your location the following winter.


  • #6027
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    kenmc wrote: »
    Singapore not exactly cold though....

    Yeah that's exactly true. High 20s there


  • #6028
    givyjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    That will be the least of our worries by then. Think closer to home we will soon see Premiership football games being called off and concerts and the like.

    This is currently my second biggest worry! I've waited 30 years for a Liverpool league win!


  • #6029
    Mic 1972
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,213 ✭✭✭Mic 1972


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    The coming spring/summer is best chance of bringing this under control. Apparently the virus will not cope well in higher temps outside of winter. Until then chaos.


    I keep reading taht too and it's very reassuring, until you think about Thailand and Singapore where temperatures are currently over 25c and very humid, exactly the type of weather that should stop the spread. Then again temperatures in Europe reach 30c and over in the Summer so there is still hope


  • #6030
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    dominatinMC wrote: »
    I never tried to downplay it as just the flu. Unless you can otherwise quote me?

    Don't know if poster is implying it was you but there was plenty of comments at the start of the thread about it only being a flu. It was obvious then it wasn't and surprise surprise those posters seem to have gone quiet on it now.


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  • #6031
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,408 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Mic 1972 wrote: »
    I keep reading taht too and it's very reassuring, until you think about Thailand and Singapore where temperatures are currently over 25c and very humid, exactly the type of weather that should stop the spread. Then again temperatures in Europe reach 30c and over in the Summer so there is still hope

    I wonder would a dry heat be needed... could humid weather help spread it with so much moisture in the air?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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