Ireland Team Talk XI: Team of nervoUS MOD warning Post 1

bilston · 12-02-2020 07:55PM

OldRio wrote: »

Watching 'House of Rugby' Good grief anyone know what's the problem that Tindell has with Ireland?
Bitter twisted little bollox.

In fairness...he was proved correct at the WC last year.

I haven't watched this episode so not sure what he said. However there are clear signs that our game is developing. Is it going to happen overnight? Of course not, but give it 12 months and we might see something very different.

bilston · 12-02-2020 07:57PM

car_radio19834 wrote: »

What more expansive gameplan are people seeing? It's very very basic.

Half of our tries on Saturday were again scored directly through the pack.

Where are the offloads and lads running on a shoulder?

Henshaw was making breaks and half breaks and at every opportunity was looking for the offload on Saturday. That's just one indication that our game has evolved a bit.

bilston · 12-02-2020 07:59PM

Malakai Some Revolution wrote: »

I really doubt we'll see any changes to the team after Saturday.

Agreed, it's hard to see any changes. Not sure when Ringrose is due back though.

We'll see a raft of changes against Italy and then come Paris who knows.

I'm happy with that to be honest, there's a 6Ns title to be won here, planning for 2023 and developing players can start in June/July in Australia.

For now our game is developing, the personnel changes will happen naturally.

Clegg · 12-02-2020 11:58PM

Our counterattacking game is an obvious development. We saw next to nothing of that when Schmidt was in charge. Larmour has been allowed to play what's in front of him.

typhoony · 13-02-2020 11:17AM

bilston wrote: »

Henshaw was making breaks and half breaks and at every opportunity was looking for the offload on Saturday. That's just one indication that our game has evolved a bit.

even though Ringrose is marginally a better centre than Henshaw it's no surprise to me that a fully fit Henshaw playing alongside Bundee is the partnership that works. I'd be a big Ringrose fan but sometimes it's combinations that work best not who is the best player

Dave_The_Sheep · 13-02-2020 11:24AM

Marginally? I seriously rate Henshaw, but Ringrose is on another level. One of the first names, if not the first name, on the teamsheet for me, if he's fit.

arsebiscuits1 · 13-02-2020 11:31AM

Open session in CIT had to be moved to Musgrave park due to flooded pitch (also no longer an open session)

https://www.the42.ie/ireland-open-training-session-cork-5005550-Feb2020/

Shefwedfan · 13-02-2020 11:32AM

Listened to Off The Ball with ROG

He was dropping POM and putting on Doris :-)

C0N0R · 13-02-2020 11:39AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Listened to Off The Ball with ROG

He was dropping POM and putting on Doris :-)

And ferris was leaving POM on and benching Doris

aloooof · 13-02-2020 12:26PM

I didn't notice it until today, but ROG seems to say "the beauty of it is..." an awful lot.

Buer · 13-02-2020 01:09PM

aloooof wrote: »

I didn't notice it until today, but ROG seems to say "the beauty of it is..." an awful lot.

Correct.

aloooof · 13-02-2020 01:14PM

Buer wrote: »

Correct.

I see what you did there.

sydthebeat · 13-02-2020 02:17PM

Buer wrote: »

Correct.

yeah , thats a very "school teacher" one that he comes out with a lot

aloooof · 13-02-2020 04:32PM

Watson ruled out but Tuilagi and Slade potentially available for Ireland game.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2020/0213/1115077-englands-watson-ruled-out-of-ireland-clash/

Shefwedfan · 13-02-2020 06:08PM

aloooof wrote: »

Watson ruled out but Tuilagi and Slade potentially available for Ireland game.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2020/0213/1115077-englands-watson-ruled-out-of-ireland-clash/

The 42 podcast said the UK press Tuilagi and Slade would not be available

aloooof · 13-02-2020 06:25PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

The 42 podcast said the UK press Tuilagi and Slade would not be available

When was that podcast published, I wonder? This is from today:

Jones has delivered more positive news on centres Manu Tuilagi and Henry Slade with both players potentially being fit to face Ireland.

Tuilagi suffered a groin strain against France but his return to full training is imminent while Slade is close to recovering from the ankle injury he sustained in late December.

"Manu is looking very good. Very promising. He should be in full training by the start of next week," Jones said.

"Henry Slade ran today and we've yet to get a medical report. It's definitely promising but too early to say whether he will be all right for Ireland or not."

Shefwedfan · 13-02-2020 06:26PM

aloooof wrote: »

When was that podcast published, I wonder? This is from today:

Today, it was one of the guys who said they heard from UK press

13-02-2020 10:34PM

Sometimes when you're watching back old games you realise just how much nark there has been out of Sexton over the years.

Here he is in 2011, had just been high tackled / headlocked by Chris Ashton. Slots the resulting three and points at him as soon as it goes over presumably to thank him for the free points. Nearly came to afters!

Shefwedfan · 13-02-2020 11:42PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Sometimes when you're watching back old games you realise just how much nark there has been out of Sexton over the years.

Here he is in 2011, had just been high tackled / headlocked by Chris Ashton. Slots the resulting three and points at him as soon as it goes over presumably to thank him for the free points. Nearly came to afters!

Shane Williams was on podcast the other day going on about Rog and Phillips who back in the day never shut up all game at each other.....saying stuff about family etc

KaneToad · 14-02-2020 12:57AM

typhoony wrote: »

even though Ringrose is marginally a better centre than Henshaw it's no surprise to me that a fully fit Henshaw playing alongside Bundee is the partnership that works. I'd be a big Ringrose fan but sometimes it's combinations that work best not who is the best player

Marginally!

Ringrose is miles better than Henshaw. Robbie is a brilliant player but Garry is on a different level altogether. He's one of our few world class players.

Clegg · 14-02-2020 10:26AM

Ringrose's recovery from injury isn'y going as well as hoped and he might miss the rest of the tournament. Huge blow if he doesn't return. We lose a lot him him not in the side.

https://www.the42.ie/garry-ringrose-injury-ireland-six-nations-5006890-Feb2020/

salmocab · 14-02-2020 03:29PM

James Lowes bit in the Indo today finishes with a suggestion that he’ll be playing international in November.

Shefwedfan · 14-02-2020 03:35PM

salmocab wrote: »

James Lowes bit in the Indo today finishes with a suggestion that he’ll be playing international in November.

He done interview saying when he was approached by Leinster it was to play long term for Ireland. He said in interview about talking to his dad about making the big decision to not play for NZ.....this was at end of last season.....

So the plan was always for him to play

AbusesToilets · 14-02-2020 03:42PM

salmocab wrote: »

James Lowes bit in the Indo today finishes with a suggestion that he’ll be playing international in November.

I'd say that's about the most nailed on thing since Jesus took up carpentry.

salmocab · 14-02-2020 04:00PM

AbusesToilets wrote: »

I'd say that's about the most nailed on thing since Jesus took up carpentry.

Ah I know but his family are coming over which I would take to mean he’s spoken to Farrell about it and is confident of being picked.

aloooof · 14-02-2020 04:38PM

Some interesting stats RE: ruck arrivals from Round 1, for those that like that sort of thing:

https://twitter.com/SamLStandsUp/status/1228130803898626048

14-02-2020 04:49PM

That plus one of his other tweets pretty clearly suggest to me anyway that we have decided in general to not get involved in rucks when they have the ball, bar the backrow (and even they aren't doing it that much). So we've more players in the defensive line, and the backrow are waiting for clear opportunities to poach.

aloooof · 14-02-2020 05:01PM

Malakai Some Revolution wrote: »

That plus one of his other tweets pretty clearly suggest to me anyway that we have decided in general to not get involved in rucks when they have the ball, bar the backrow (and even they aren't doing it that much). So we've more players in the defensive line, and the backrow are waiting for clear opportunities to poach.

I'd be interested to see if vs Round 2, and also the cumulative for both rounds. Rucks is possibly one of few stats where you can get a decent sample size after a game or 2.

ionadnapóca · 15-02-2020 10:19AM

The new 13 is also having “fun” with teacher and having class outside.
https://www.the42.ie/keith-earls-andy-farrrell-chilled-classroom-5007917-Feb2020/

This is the same fella telling us all how relaxed he was before the NZ game!
But is now also talking about the huddle before that game?
Because that’s what made him drop those passes! Or throw idiotic offloads v Japan after HT when just 3 points ahead and under pressure?

I really would prefer if Earls and the other Irish players just took ownership of their own mistakes and STFU.

Shefwedfan · 15-02-2020 10:24AM

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ionadnapokot wrote: »

The new 13 is also having “fun” with teacher and having class outside.
https://www.the42.ie/keith-earls-andy-farrrell-chilled-classroom-5007917-Feb2020/

This is the same fella telling us all how relaxed he was before the NZ game!
But is now also talking about the huddle before that game?
Because that’s what made him drop those passes! Or throw idiotic offloads v Japan after HT when just 3 points ahead and under pressure?

I really would prefer if Earls and the other Irish players just took ownership of their own mistakes and STFU.

To be honest if I was Farrell and I seen this carry on I would drop them out of the squad. Seems like some of the players have no loyalty.

In reality in 2018 it was the players on the pitch, not the management.

It's not like either the its a whole new management team, a number of them have hung around plus they now have access to new facilities which Joe didn't have so it makes the review a lot more interactive.

If these players did have an issue? why not raise it in the 6 years when Joe's team was winning all around them?

What happens next week if they lose? Farrell is s**t and bring back Joe?

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