new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

drunkmonkey · 13-02-2020 08:09AM

Cody montana wrote: »

Weeks later and there have been zero cases here.

I'll be amazed if that turns out to be the truth.

SeaBreezes · 13-02-2020 08:11AM

Shanghai officials confirm novel #coronavirus transmission modes, it includes direct, contact and airborne, aerosol transmissions. (China Daily)

Peatys · 13-02-2020 08:13AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Everytime, I look at this thread. I wonder if I'm in conspiracy theories. So much false information. Still about 2/10 on the worried scale and I've more to be worried about as I work on the frontline and won't be able to hide at home.if the worst was to happen.

Has the virus had and damaging or lasting effects on people outside of China? Korea for example, some infected people have come out the other side of it and are back to work already.

GooglePlus · 13-02-2020 08:20AM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Ahhhh the WHO are on the ground. Harder to hide the dead bodies then. So the infected number had to jump to balance the numbers.

I find it hard to believe the WHO are only on the ground now?

If true, that's an absolute disgrace.

SeaBreezes · 13-02-2020 08:21AM

It's the worldometer page on closed cases stats that depress the hell out of me. It's not budging. 1 in 5 fatality. Consistently.
I keep hoping that stat will improve.

13-02-2020 08:22AM

GooglePlus wrote: »

I find it hard to believe the WHO are only on the ground now?

If true, that's an absolute disgrace.

They should be declaring the actual numbers not balancing.

What’s the benefit of this 2.1 percent balancing. It just raises more suspicion.

13-02-2020 08:22AM

Peatys wrote: »

Has the virus had and damaging or lasting effects on people outside of China? Korea for example, some infected people have come out the other side of it and are back to work already.

Korea's health system is outstanding.

BanditLuke · 13-02-2020 08:25AM

Cody montana wrote: »

Let what sink in?
Weeks later and there have been zero cases here.

If you can't see it you can't see it.

laurah591 · 13-02-2020 08:27AM

wakka12 wrote: »

Without clinical diagnosis. Many of the deaths today were 'confirmed' as they are assumed to have died from coronavirus, not actually tested. Only 107 deaths were actually tested positive for the virus.

I think its strange honestly. Theres bound to be some people with other respiratory diseases becoming part of the numbers now.Look how many strongly suspected coronavirus cases abroad have turned out to be negative. But at the same time, must mean A LOT of recent deaths were never confirmed as coronvirus infections in the last few days

Just with regards yesterdays death figures... did the 138 odd happen yesterday or did these occur in the past and are just shown now to correct figures ..... assuming accurate info is being provided

Mic 1972 · 13-02-2020 08:57AM

The number of infected people seems to double on a weekly basis, this has been the case since the beginning. The 60K update confirms the trend and is consistent with the previous data

60K infected means the magic 2% mortality rate has gone down

Sheep Shagger · 13-02-2020 09:06AM

Think I know the answer to the question but am interested in getting peoples opinion.

We are in the throws of arranging a family catch up in Maylasia in the summer (flying in to Bangkok). Before we pull the trigger on booking and paying for the long haul flights this week, would our travel insurance (which I plan to buy from multi trip.com at the same time) cover us should either counter become an affected zone.

Korea have advised it's people to not travel to Maylasia. Ireland have not (yet).

Have a query with Multitrip.com and they are the checking...

Duke of Url · 13-02-2020 09:08AM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

The number of infected people seems to double on a weekly basis, this has been the case since the beginning. The 60K update confirms the trend and is consistent with the previous data

60K infected means the magic 2% mortality rate has gone down

?

I have the death rate at 2.27%

Total Confirmed 60,327
Deaths 1367

13-02-2020 09:09AM

spread spread spread, seems like reckless advice from a first world country

International university students from China say they are transiting to third countries to wait out their quarantine period before flying to Australia to resume their classes.
The Department of Education, Skills and Employment issued advice earlier this week on how students "may" be able to get back to Australia via a third country and provided examples.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-12/coronavirus-international-students-travel-through-third-country/11954618

some countries like Cambodia have no travel restrictions with China
https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/china-and-cambodia-love-in-the-time-of-coronavirus/

Earlier, in Cambodia, Hun Sen had slammed reporters at a press briefing for wearing face masks. “The prime minister doesn’t wear a mask, so why do you?” he demanded. The same brash fearlessness was on display in his China trip.

The New York Times, citing Cambodian civil aviation authorities, reported that “about 3,000 travelers from Wuhan have flown to Cambodia since the epidemic was announced” in January.

Xinhua praised Cambodia’s decision not to evacuate students, impose travel restrictions on Chinese nationals, or halt flights as “important support for China.

13-02-2020 09:13AM

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Think I know the answer to the question but am interested in getting peoples opinion.

We are in the throws of arranging a family catch up in Maylasia in the summer (flying in to Bangkok). Before we pull the trigger on booking and paying for the long haul flights this week, would our travel insurance (which I plan to buy from multi trip.com at the same time) cover us should either counter become an affected zone.

Korea have advised it's people to not travel to Maylasia. Ireland have not (yet).

Have a query with Multitrip.com and they are the checking...

I don’t know the answer but let us know what multitrip say.

I’m booked to go to Greece in May. I have annual travel insurance. I don’t think it’s going to be an issue though.

joseywhales · 13-02-2020 09:14AM

It's a bit naive to think that it wont reach every country, seeing how contagious it appears to be, there is no point in stopping all commerce and travel indefinitely, we just need measures to buy time for diagnosis,treatment and vaccination.

dominatinMC · 13-02-2020 09:16AM

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Think I know the answer to the question but am interested in getting peoples opinion.

We are in the throws of arranging a family catch up in Maylasia in the summer (flying in to Bangkok). Before we pull the trigger on booking and paying for the long haul flights this week, would our travel insurance (which I plan to buy from multi trip.com at the same time) cover us should either counter become an affected zone.

Korea have advised it's people to not travel to Maylasia. Ireland have not (yet).

Have a query with Multitrip.com and they are the checking...

Personally, I wouldn't do it. Who knows how bad it could be by the Summer and given Malaysia's proximity to the epicentre of the outbreak, there is a possibility that it could be under pressure by then. Why risk it

givyjoe · 13-02-2020 09:17AM

Sheep Shagger wrote: »

Think I know the answer to the question but am interested in getting peoples opinion.

We are in the throws of arranging a family catch up in Maylasia in the summer (flying in to Bangkok). Before we pull the trigger on booking and paying for the long haul flights this week, would our travel insurance (which I plan to buy from multi trip.com at the same time) cover us should either counter become an affected zone.

Korea have advised it's people to not travel to Maylasia. Ireland have not (yet).

Have a query with Multitrip.com and they are the checking...

Be interested to know the answer to this, but cover for what specifically? If you decide yourself not to go, I'd doubt it. If an airline cancels a leg of your trip, you'd likely be covered for that particular leg. If you get sick, depending on the wording, it should cover you. I'm about to purchase travel insurance and the policy I'm going with doesn't specifically excluded pandemics. I don't believe they can use the natural disaster clause with this one but it would be very interesting to see what they come back with.

SeaBreezes · 13-02-2020 09:21AM

gmisk wrote: »

In this crisis the last thing we need to endure is another Dan Brown book!

Apparently Dean R Koontz got there first called the virus Wuhan-400. I kid you not.

VinLieger · 13-02-2020 09:36AM

Mic 1972 wrote: »

The number of infected people seems to double on a weekly basis, this has been the case since the beginning. The 60K update confirms the trend and is consistent with the previous data

60K infected means the magic 2% mortality rate has gone down

It means nothing of the sort because they have been under recording deaths this whole time as well

antodeco · 13-02-2020 09:37AM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Apparently Dean R Koontz got there first called the virus Wuhan-400. I kid you not.

Was originally Gorki-400 and changed sometime around 1991 to Wuhan-400

josip · 13-02-2020 09:42AM

joseywhales wrote: »

we just need measures to buy time for diagnosis,treatment and vaccination.

It's unlikely that a vaccine will be found during the Covid-19 outbreak.

drunkmonkey · 13-02-2020 09:45AM

marvin80 wrote: »

This sounds like conspiracy sh*t - fu*k off unless you have facts or proof.

It was right at that moment Marvin realised he wasn't prepared for the impending apocalypse.

PhantomHat · 13-02-2020 09:45AM

As the chances are ever increasing by the day that we will have many cases in Ireland I think it's very important to note we must increase our ability to fight off this disease.
In other words we must make sure our immune systems are working optimally.

Dr Seheult from MedCram has a very easy and straightforward suggestion

https://youtu.be/qqZYEgREuZ8

gozunda · 13-02-2020 09:47AM

SeaBreezes wrote: »

Apparently Dean R Koontz got there first called the virus Wuhan-400. I kid you not.

Looks like the reference was updated sometime after the 1990s from the original cold war russian reference. The story subsequrnly detailed a military lab near Wuhan - see link below

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3875669

That said- It remains a quite incredible coincidence that the Wuhan Institute of Virology is the premier lab in China that studies bat and human coronaviruses....

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/mining-coronavirus-genomes-clues-outbreak-s-origins

s7ryf3925pivug · 13-02-2020 09:51AM

We have the full range of angles here from complete unconcern to conviction that society will break down.

Identifying CT, misinformation and errors is good. Getting angry with people for not sharing your point of view isn't nice though.

My view is that major organisations like WHO and the CDC indicate that the global risk level is high or grave, and I take that at face value. In light of that fact, I don't really get people who present themselves as authorities but say there's not much to worry about.

josip · 13-02-2020 09:59AM

While I think there is no harm in preparing for a period of self isolation, I think it's highly unlikely that there will be any form of societal collapse.
Even with the worst, unverified mortality rate that anyone has posted on this thread of 20%, 4 out of every 5 doctors, guards, bus drivers, farmers, factory workers, etc will remain alive and well.

MD1990 · 13-02-2020 10:02AM

Some poster's condescending tone is doing this thread no favours acting like experts on the illness.

Everyone can only make predictions atm. Although it isn't looking good.

brick tamland · 13-02-2020 10:07AM

So even with the increase in the Chinese figures, I’m still more interested in the cases outside of China. From what I can see is that there is still only 2 deaths outside of China reported, running at a percentage below 2% at the moment. At least one of the deaths was a person from Wuhan ( Not sure about the other). Although I haven’t seen load of reports, they’re have been reports saying symptoms of patients outside china have been quite mild.

The Figures from the cruise ship will tell more as well as I’d imagine they average age of those diagnosed is quite high, with it been a cruise ship.

13-02-2020 10:12AM

PhantomHat wrote: »

As the chances are ever increasing by the day that we will have many cases in Ireland I think it's very important to note we must increase our ability to fight off this disease.
In other words we must make sure our immune systems are working optimally.

Dr Seheult from MedCram has a very easy and straightforward suggestion

https://youtu.be/qqZYEgREuZ8

So our best defence against a Coronavirus is to sleep. As the hormones we produce while awake create an enzyme that assists the virus in spreading to other cells. Whilst asleep, the healthy cells have a better chance of attacking.

Would any of our scientifically minded posters weigh in on this?

BanditLuke · 13-02-2020 10:24AM

marvin80 wrote: »

This sounds like conspiracy sh*t - fu*k off unless you have facts or proof.

If there is a case here (hopefully not) it'll be idiots like ye stoking the fires trying to cause unnecessary panic and stress.

Seek help for your anger issues.

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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