new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

anto9 · 12-02-2020 08:38PM

MD1990 wrote: »

Ghebreyesus has defended the reaction of the Chinese authorities to the outbreak.

seems like China have done all they can.

But too late .

givyjoe · 12-02-2020 08:38PM

BloodBath wrote: »

Ehh that's not even possible.

Your body becomes immune to it if you fought it off the first time unless it mutates rapidly or your immune system is fecked.

Not true. The antibodies do not remain in your body for long. You could get this multiple times.

wakka12 · 12-02-2020 08:39PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f2xnch/local_a_village_in_vietnam_around_10000_people_is/
A town in vietnam has been quaratined after 5 people living there tested positive

fritzelly · 12-02-2020 08:39PM

BloodBath wrote: »

Source? Any info I've read says you can't unless the virus mutates

No one knows for sure yet - they are basing it on other coronaviruses, it could be as little as 14 days or...

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/256521.php#what-are-coronaviruses

Among humans, infection most often occurs during the winter months as well as early spring. It is not uncommon for a person to become ill with a cold that is caused by a coronavirus and then catch it again about four months later.

This is because coronavirus antibodies do not last for a very long time

givyjoe · 12-02-2020 08:40PM

BloodBath wrote: »

Source? Any info I've read says you can't unless the virus mutates.

Source?

Have you got a source for your statement?

BloodBath · 12-02-2020 08:40PM

givyjoe wrote: »

Not true. The antibodies do not remain in your body for long. You could get this multiple times.

Again I'll ask for a source as the multiple places I've checked have said no. At least with influenza. Is it different for corona?

The only thing I could find is this which states certain individuals can which I said earlier. Those with weak immune systems.

https://futurism.com/neoscope/scientists-warn-coronavirus-more-than-once

anto9 · 12-02-2020 08:41PM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

I'm all booked up. By the time the summer comes it'll be either all gone or things will be dire and the last thing I'll be caring about is the money I lost on the flights

Booked a short few days in Amsterdam with Ryanair for early April but will not book accommodation yet until i see how this is going .

tuxy · 12-02-2020 08:42PM

givyjoe wrote: »

Not true. The antibodies do not remain in your body for long. You could get this multiple times.

Some scientists had suspected the recovered may only have immunity for a few months if it's a virus that mutates fast.
But that is only speculation from over a week ago when they had no info.

I can't find the info on google, what's the best source to read about the latest developments on this matter?

fritzelly · 12-02-2020 08:45PM

wakka12 wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/China_Flu/comments/f2xnch/local_a_village_in_vietnam_around_10000_people_is/
A town in vietnam has been quaratined after 5 people living there tested positive

It's China round 2

car_radio19834 · 12-02-2020 08:49PM

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227688967912460290

marvin80 · 12-02-2020 08:50PM

anto9 wrote: »

Booked a short few days in Amsterdam with Ryanair for early April but will not book accommodation yet until i see how this is going .

Book it on booking.com and you can cancel it a few days before hand for free.

Rvsmmnps · 12-02-2020 08:51PM

tuxy wrote: »

Contradiction.

I am only reading headlines,so no certain information will come from me.So no contradiction.

car_radio19834 · 12-02-2020 08:52PM

9th case in the UK! First in London!

Woman flew from China!

tuxy · 12-02-2020 08:53PM

Rvsmmnps wrote: »

I am only reading headlines,so no certain information will come from me.So no contradiction.

If you are just reading headlines why would you say it's the one area they have some certainty in?
Why not ask if the headline you read could be true and then maybe someone can get back with some credible sources.

BloodBath · 12-02-2020 08:58PM

More sensationalist click bait titles taken as facts. No surprise there then.

12-02-2020 09:00PM

Ten thousand people locked down just 25 miles away. Was hoping this week would be less dramatic so I could go back to work next week.

igCorcaigh · 12-02-2020 09:03PM

I'm a bit reassured that we haven't seen chains of sustained h2h, seems to be a few superspreaders from Asia, but transmission then seems to stop.

Next couple of weeks should tell a lot.

Rvsmmnps · 12-02-2020 09:04PM

tuxy wrote: »

If you are just reading headlines why would you say it's the one area they have some certainty in?
Why not ask if the headline you read could be true and then maybe someone can get back with some credible sources.

Isnt it a bit of a job understanding what is and isnt credible.

BloodBath · 12-02-2020 09:06PM

Rvsmmnps wrote: »

Isnt it a bit of a job understanding what is and isnt credible.

That's a fact. The era of clickbait, fake news and twatter. The MSM aren't any better either.

wellwhynot · 12-02-2020 09:08PM

car_radio19834 wrote: »

9th case in the UK! First in London!

Woman flew from China!

I cannot fathom how people are still able to hop on a flight from China. We had a real chance to stop this from turning into a pandemic two weeks ago but no our government and the U.K. seem more concerned with the economy.

It is very short sighted I believe. As and from last week I have been curtailing all of our social activities. We won’t be going out for dinner, shopping centres, pubs, cinema etc until this has passed or the government has stopped allowing people in from infected areas.

igCorcaigh · 12-02-2020 09:12PM

wellwhynot wrote: »

I cannot fathom how people are still able to hop on a flight from China. We had a real chance to stop this from turning into a pandemic two weeks ago but no our government and the U.K. seem more concerned with the economy.

Agreed. The economic fallout from a full blown pandemic will be far higher. Global supply chains will be hit.

BanditLuke · 12-02-2020 09:18PM

wellwhynot wrote: »

I cannot fathom how people are still able to hop on a flight from China. We had a real chance to stop this from turning into a pandemic two weeks ago but no our government and the U.K. seem more concerned with the economy.

It is very short sighted I believe. As and from last week I have been curtailing all of our social activities. We won’t be going out for dinner, shopping centres, pubs, cinema etc until this has passed or the government has stopped allowing people in from infected areas.

A lot of people with their heads in the sand, you only have to read this very thread to see that.

RTE 9 o clock news tonight 21 minutes in and literally a 22 second section on this. Your licence fee at work folks.

MD1990 · 12-02-2020 09:23PM

I've tried to be optimistic.
but someone in London with the virus is a disaster.

everything will shutdown in 2-3 weeks

hope I'm wrong

saabsaab · 12-02-2020 09:24PM

I read a report of a study on emergency disaster situations and the usual case is that first warnings are dismissed second warnings are told to shut up and then it hits and its too late.

An example was given of a stationary airplane that collided on the runway with another that was landing taking off its roof/top. There were a few seconds to leave the seat and jump off but most just froze and stayed put and died in the fire. Those that reacted quickly got away.
The conclusion is that people come to believe that the way things are can't change. Sometimes they do very quickly.

Martina1991 · 12-02-2020 09:26PM

saabsaab wrote:

I read a report of a study on emergency disaster situations and the usual case is that first warnings are dismissed second warnings are told to shut up and then it hits and its too late.

That's also the start of every disaster movie ever.

saabsaab · 12-02-2020 09:34PM

Captain Smith ignored seven iceberg warnings from his crew and other ships. If he had called for the ship to slow down then maybe the Titanic disaster would not have happened. .

4068ac1elhodqr · 12-02-2020 09:35PM

MD1990 wrote: »

I've tried to be optimistic.
but someone in London with the virus is a disaster.
everything will shutdown in 2-3 weeks
hope I'm wrong

Not unrealistic, but moreso months: once a single infected subject grabs any near door rail on any morning service circle-lane tube, before alighting.

Martina1991 wrote: »

That's also the start of every disaster movie ever.

Also what the WHO have just done in deciding (today), again not to class this as a pandemic.

Not sure about the e-cigs, but anyone smoking 20/day and perhaps swilling a couple of lagers per night would be advised not to if they want to see the Trump man get re-elected in Nov '20.

Fr_Dougal · 12-02-2020 09:37PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Captain Smith ignored seven iceberg warnings from his crew and other ships. If he had called for the ship to slow down then maybe the Titanic disaster would not have happened. .

Met Éireann said nothing about icebergs. 2020 is going from bad to worse.

odyssey06 · 12-02-2020 09:40PM

saabsaab wrote: »

Captain Smith ignored seven iceberg warnings from his crew and other ships. If he had called for the ship to slow down then maybe the Titanic disaster would not have happened. .

Or if the ships supposedly self contained compartments actually were watertight... she would have survived the hit.

saabsaab · 12-02-2020 09:50PM

Has SS Eire a Captain Smyth at the Helm? Are our watertight compartments able to cope?

new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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