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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #4862
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Lancet resource. You can sign up for free updates on COVID-19:

    https://www.thelancet.com/coronavirus?dgcid=kr_pop-up_tlcoronavirus20


  • #4863
    pc7
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 14,327 Mod ✭✭✭✭pc7


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Helen Branswell tweeted that story. She's respected, and the newspaper is a major media outlet in the region.

    Yeah, she’s a good follow alright, it’s more it highlights the ‘error’ in figures the Chinese have been giving out as BS as expected


  • #4864
    creditcarder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭creditcarder


    igCorcaigh wrote: »
    Helen Branswell tweeted that story. She's respected, and the newspaper is a major media outlet in the region.


    Nah, there's so much misinformation at play here that who knows what the truth is.


  • #4865
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    pc7 wrote: »
    A comment left on Twitter post above about infected medical staff is very interesting (I don’t have numbers so not sure if true).

    ‘ It reads: "It said that by mid-January there had been about 500 confirmed cases among hospital staff with a further 600 suspected ones."

    On 23-01-2020 we had less than 600 confirmed cases. So can we agree the numbers from China are fake? Or is this article exaggerating numbers?’

    That's the problem. China have withheld accurate information on the condition since the start of January or so. Its making it much more difficult to analyse how quickly it has spread throughout China or how many people are infected. My estimated guess is that its likely closer to huge numbers but only the mild or severe cases are being confirmed atm.


  • #4866
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 12,936 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    I think we're all in the same boat regarding uncertainty and misinformation.


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  • #4867
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    Sky News leading with this story. RTE asleep at the wheel, for now.


  • #4868
    tara73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭tara73


    so China is banning all sales of (live) wild animals. one good thing in all of this, the incredible cute and fascinating pangolin will have a chance to recover from extinction.


  • #4869
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Any news about the Wework employee suspected of having it? News reports from 2 days ago said results in 48 hours


  • #4870
    wadacrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Looking back when China had 90 confirmed cases their were 3 worldwide which seems simply impossible. It seems that as soon as it hit outside of China they decided to maybe make the numbers more realistic.


  • #4871
    RebelButtMunch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭RebelButtMunch


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Any news about the Wework employee suspected of having it? News reports from 2 days ago said results in 48 hours

    Do you mean Indeed?


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  • #4872
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,321 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    I thought kids were safe enough from this, I've just seen 3 of them go in the one body bag, no need to post it.

    At what point do we panic and shut our borders?


  • #4873
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    RebelButtMunch wrote: »
    Do you mean Indeed?

    I saw earlier that there expecting tests to came back negative and staff can come back into the office next week.


  • #4874
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,547 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I thought kids were safe enough from this, I've just seen 3 of them go in the one body bag, no need to post it.

    At what point do we panic and shut our borders?

    No one said kids are safe just there had been no "officially reported" cases yet
    They were just going on the assumption of previous viruses that were for the most part mild in children


  • #4875
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I thought kids were safe enough from this, I've just seen 3 of them go in the one body bag, no need to post it.

    At what point do we panic and shut our borders?

    No need for panic. The border closing won't happen until it's too late.


  • #4876
    tara73
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,472 ✭✭✭tara73


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxsKsCVwEg4

    sorry if this was posted before.
    he's so funny here. think he should defo meet up with Emily...:D


  • #4877
    marvin80
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭marvin80


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    I thought kids were safe enough from this, I've just seen 3 of them go in the one body bag, no need to post it.

    At what point do we panic and shut our borders?

    What made you think kids were safe from this?
    The people most at risk are old, young and people with underlying medical conditions.

    We shouldn't ever panic - that will make the situation worse.

    Take it one day at a time and a case by case basis.
    It's completely out of your control so take it easy!


  • #4878
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I havnt heard any reports of children dying. I think it would be on the news if it happened, like when the 36 year old died at the beginning, it was on the news because it was noteworthy that he was young.


  • #4879
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    From what I’m reading in Lancet & other reports is that the illness caused by this virus resembles Influenza more than a common cold. In the latter a runny nose and scratchy throat with tracheitis / laryngitis is a major feature, but in Covid-19 the typical cold symptoms are either absent or not well marked. Instead people go down straight off with a fever, lower respiratory dry cough & muscle pains, which progresses to a severe pneumonia in a higher proportion of patients than in the case with Infuenza. Nowhere am I seeing that it is in some cases a trivial cold-like condition, it is a virus that favours the lower respiratory system. Indeed there are descriptions of patients having very dry mucus membranes. So, somebody with a sneezy cold is highly unlikely to have Covid-19.


  • #4880
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    wakka12 wrote: »
    I havnt heard any reports of children dying. I think it would be on the news if it happened, like when the 36 year old died at the beginning, it was on the news because it was noteworthy that he was young.

    Posted about it earlier today, it was in China, they were only tots. Very sad.


  • #4881
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    Posted about it earlier today, it was in China, they were only tots. Very sad.

    Was it confirmed by any reputable source?


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  • #4882
    SeaBreezes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭SeaBreezes


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Unbelievable. The guy is as level headed as they come.

    Poor fellow gets more and more depressed.


  • #4883
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    I agree no point in panic there is nothing we can really do about it.
    However I think it is a lot more serious than some people on here realise.

    The though something might kill be does not scare me in the least to be honest.

    Having something nasty fighting for air even if I survive that does scare me.
    Having elderly relatives catch this also scares me.

    Also getting a really mild case of this and spreading it to others also fills me with dread.


  • #4884
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,980 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Unbelievable. The guy is as level headed as they come.

    It's an automatic filter, youtube wouldn't have the resources to review everything manually.


  • #4885
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,321 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Was it confirmed by any reputable source?

    Marty Morrissey hit them a shot of a hurl and they didn't flinch.


  • #4886
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    I am also scared about the long term implications of getting the virus. Some reports of it causing permanent or at least long lasting lung and cardio vacular damage, I wonder what defines 'recovered'? Just the virus being out of your system? How many of the recovered are completely healthy?


  • #4887
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Was it confirmed by any reputable source?

    It looked genuine, but it was removed. From the mods on Reddit:
    We went through a lot of deliberation on this post. We have decided to remove it because A) even if true, it does not add anything of value. We know people are dying and seeing dead children is upsetting, but it provides no further benefit other than shock value. B) Although it looks to be from infectious disease, there is no way to confirm it is from any time recently.

    I can PM you the link if you want to make up your own mind, video is from CCTV.


  • #4888
    Lashes28
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    It's on Twitter still.. absolutely horrific poor little pets.


  • #4889
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Was it confirmed by any reputable source?

    We had a riot at the Red Cow on New Years and non of our media mentioned it so what exectly is a reputable source?

    Official lies are still lies.


  • #4890
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    I get the impression that they are being vigilant with testing, and most tests are not expected to be positive.


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  • #4891
    Larbre34
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,876 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    My brother and sister in law got out of Shanghai 3 weeks back. One of them is native and the family is connected locally. Their educated estimate is that cases are being underreported by the Chinese authorities by a factor of 10.


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