GE Exit Poll 10 pm

freshpopcorn · 11-02-2020 10:20PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

this is my thing, how the hell are they going to build these cheap houses, how is the construction cost going to go down.

Especially at the standard of finish that is required Today.

We are also gone away from the day where six kids share a room when they are given there permanent home. If they were to receive a council house.

campo · 11-02-2020 10:20PM

shenanagans wrote: »

SF got 24.5% of vote......so 3 out of 4 people did not vote for SF.

SF will get a couple of weeks to mess around, made look like fools as they realise the maths doesn't work out......before the FF/FG/Greens coalition is announced.

Yes and FF got less than 24% as did FG so why do you thnk FF/FG/Green have a mandate for form govt.

People voted for a change a FF/FG is not a change

Zetor19 · 11-02-2020 10:20PM

I think it’s SF you should be asking.

shenanagans · 11-02-2020 10:20PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

SF aiming to become the lead party of opposition is a cowardly act and a complete volte face for the people who voted for their candidates to top the poll in almost every constituency.

FF and FG will sit back for a couple of weeks and let the public reflect on the election, let Mary Lou and SF fail in an attempt to form an unstable left govt. Then they'll pull a coalition together with the greens. Hold it together through Brexit at least.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 10:21PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

I think it’s SF you should be asking.

Nope you made the claim, onus is on you to back it up.

shenanagans · 11-02-2020 10:22PM

campo wrote: »

Yes and FF got less than 24% as did FG so why do you thnk FF/FG/Green have a mandate for form govt.

People voted for a change a FF/FG is not a change

FF and FG are the same. So together they have 40%+ against SF with only 24%

Zetor19 · 11-02-2020 10:22PM

No SF made the claim. A 5 year old child would know it’s not possible .

campo · 11-02-2020 10:23PM

shenanagans wrote: »

FF and FG are the same. So together they have 40%+ against SF with only 24%

Oh so they are the same party now when it suits, they have no mandate simple as that.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 10:24PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

No SF made the claim. A 5 year old child would know it’s not possible .

You've made it here, I watched all the debates and never heard anyone claim you can build a house for 65k. So once again linky please or I can assume you are spoofing.

The Rape of Lucretia · 11-02-2020 10:24PM

campo wrote: »

Oh so they are the same party now when it suits, they have no mandate simple as that.

Nor does SF.

shenanagans · 11-02-2020 10:25PM

campo wrote: »

Oh so they are the same party now when it suits, they have no mandate simple as that.

Neither do SF have a mandate. 50% would have been a mandate.

shenanagans · 11-02-2020 10:25PM

campo wrote: »

Oh so they are the same party now when it suits, they have no mandate simple as that.

Neither do SF have a mandate. 50% would have been a mandate.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 10:26PM

campo wrote: »

Yes and FF got less than 24% as did FG so why do you thnk FF/FG/Green have a mandate for form govt.

People voted for a change a FF/FG is not a change

FG/FF/GP combined is a vote of over 50% their voters voted for them to govern as did the voters of other parties.

The Rape of Lucretia · 11-02-2020 10:26PM

Some people do need to need this stated twice to them.

Spanish Eyes · 11-02-2020 10:27PM

campo wrote: »

Yes and FF got less than 24% as did FG so why do you thnk FF/FG/Green have a mandate for form govt.

People voted for a change a FF/FG is not a change

It could be. As in they will have to up their game and do what they are supposed to do, with sensibly costed policies and all that.

Anyway, without wishing to get anyone's back up, my feeling is that it will be FF/FG/+ AN other(s). MM being Taoiseach is the prize. But I think myself with due respect to the great showing of SF, that unless FF or FG decide to coalesce with SF + others, it could be the above.

But sure who knows what MMartin will decide, but it's looking dicey re SF at the minute.

Fascinating times.

Jizique · 11-02-2020 10:27PM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

I meant with FF. Sorry I didn’t make that clear. SF, Greens and Soc Dems would have far more seats than FF and could use that to implement the radical change people voted for.

The will of the people needs to be respected, and SF have been given a huge vote by people who were won over by their manifesto and story of change. People don’t want more of the same. They rejected that.

Here we go with “the will of the people” - the SF brigade are just like their UKIP brethren with their nativist flag waving and “up the ra” instead of “two world wars and one World Cup”; the same working class support base as well

Water John · 11-02-2020 10:30PM

There are houses being provided for just over €200K once the LA provides the site. This can be rented or bought on a mortgage of €7/800 per month.
The number being provided needs to be increased dramatically. This then relieves all the market.

Fann Linn · 11-02-2020 10:30PM

Jizique wrote: »

Here we go with “the will of the people” - the SF brigade are just like their UKIP brethren with their nativist flag waving and “up the ra” instead of “two world wars and one World Cup”; the same working class support base as well

Like Brexit, the SF support came from all demographics and age groups.
Carry on sucking those lemons however.
It makes for enjoyable reading.

campo · 11-02-2020 10:32PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

FG/FF/GP combined is a vote of over 50% their voters voted for them to govern as did the voters of other parties.

SF/Greens/SD/People before profit also got over 50% so they have a mandate and since SF got majority of 1st preference vote they even have more of a mandate.

FF lost the election & it is time for some to move on

shenanagans · 11-02-2020 10:34PM

campo wrote: »

SF/Greens/SD/People before profit also got over 50% so they have a mandate and since SF got majority of 1st preference vote they even have more of a mandate.

FF lost the election & it is time for some to move on

Wrong. SF/greens/SD/PBP don't have 80 seats......add them up.

The Rape of Lucretia · 11-02-2020 10:35PM

campo wrote: »

SF/Greens/SD/People before profit also got over 50% so they have a mandate and since SF got majority of 1st preference vote they even have more of a mandate.

FF lost the election & it is time for some to move on

Its time to move on from trying to bend reality to fit something that didnt happen. FF didnt lose the election. Nobody voted for the slash grouping 'SF/Greens/SD/People before profit' - they are not a party, they didnt not achieve a majority, so they have no mandate as group.
SF delusionals are coming out here as as dim as voting for them suggests in the first place.

campo · 11-02-2020 10:40PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Its time to move on from trying to bend reality to fit something that didnt happen. FF didnt lose the election. Nobody voted for the slash grouping 'SF/Greens/SD/People before profit' - they are not a party, they didnt not achieve a majority, so they have no mandate as group.
SF delusionals are coming out here as as dim as voting for them suggests in the first place.

All you need to do is look where the SF surplus went to, it went to left leaning parties so yes people did vote for that group.

FF had to rely on 3rd/4th/5th preferences just to get to 37 seats

Jizique · 11-02-2020 10:40PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Like Brexit, the SF support came from all demographics and age groups.
Carry on sucking those lemons however.
It makes for enjoyable reading.

The lower the educational level, the likelier one was to vote for Brexit

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 10:41PM

campo wrote: »

SF/Greens/SD/People before profit also got over 50% so they have a mandate and since SF got majority of 1st preference vote they even have more of a mandate.

FF lost the election & it is time for some to move on

SF/Greens/SD/PBP doesn't translate into 80 seats the other combination does and that is what is needed to form a government.

threeball · 11-02-2020 10:42PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Its time to move on from trying to bend reality to fit something that didnt happen. FF didnt lose the election. Nobody voted for the slash grouping 'SF/Greens/SD/People before profit' - they are not a party, they didnt not achieve a majority, so they have no mandate as group.
SF delusionals are coming out here as as dim as voting for them suggests in the first place.

The fact that the Sinn Fein negotiating team thought that talking to Richard Boyd Barrett should be their first priority speaks volumes. Even RBB says there's no point in talking to them as they don't have the numbers to make a leftists government. At least make the biggest part of the potential coalition the priority, the Greens.
Anyway it's all bluster until they talk to FF. It's the only game in town for SF.

campo · 11-02-2020 10:42PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

SF/Greens/SD/PBP doesn't translate into 80 seats the other combination does and that is what is needed to form a government.

Oh did not realise that the last government were on 80 seats :rolleyes:

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 10:44PM

campo wrote: »

Oh did not realise that the last government were on 80 seats :rolleyes:

Confidence and supply with FF btw your grasp of figures is atrocious. SF/GP/SD/PBP does not equal 50% of the vote.

11-02-2020 10:44PM

To be honest, I reckon the people that voted SF just wanted to scream loud and be heard. They’ve gotten that now with the election and all the up the ra stuff coming out.

Now let’s get a proper, mature government formed.

campo · 11-02-2020 10:47PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Confidence and supply with FF btw your grasp of figures is atrocious. SF/GP/SD/PBP does not equal 50% of the vote.

I am sure Mary Lou can get enough seats to look for C & S, personally I think best way forward is to have another election where SF can run more seats and have election packs with other parties.

Mantis Toboggan · 11-02-2020 10:47PM

threeball wrote: »

The fact that the Sinn Fein negotiating team thought that talking to Richard Boyd Barrett should be their first priority speaks volumes. Even RBB says there's no point in talking to them as they don't have the numbers to make a leftists government. At least make the biggest part of the potential coalition the priority, the Greens.
Anyway it's all bluster until they talk to FF. It's the only game in town for SF.

Martin won't deal with SF as stated many times so the only viable option right now is the grand coalition of FFG and the greens.

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