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Larbre34 · 11-02-2020 04:36PM

People need to stop catastrophising. In the event thing ever got bad, there are hundreds of solutions.

There are thousands of non-permanent residential beds on Third Level campuses that are easy enough to lock down, there are estate hotels and country clubs which likewise are well off the road and not too hard to secure. Even the likes of Center Parcs in Longford could be commandeered and set up as a sanitorium. School halls, leisure centres, even the National Sports Campus are massive capacity for isolation if it came to it.

There isn't a cure for this so it would only be a case of treating the symptoms and keeping patients hydrated. Those that succumb, succumb. We aren't talking plague here.

The very best thing Ireland has going for it is that at the stroke of a pen our Ports and Airports get shut down and that's us isolated, if needs be.

siobhan2005 · 11-02-2020 04:40PM

10 year old son just brought the attached leaflet home from school.

Advice seems to be if student has been to china in past 14 days but does not have symptoms, then carry on as usual, no need to self isolate.

Similar advice for staff in schools, creches. If they have been to china in past 14 days, but they remain well, no specific measures are needed in the workplace.

Slightly worrying considering what we are hearing about asymptomatic spread.

Sorry Here is the link to what he received home

Nonoperational · 11-02-2020 04:40PM

odyssey06 wrote: »

Could you list some actual numbers?
This just reads like a HSE press release, any post that uses a phrase like "Genuinely the finest in the world" cannot be taken seriously.
Bit like the Irish rugby team were genuinely the finest in the world until they got to an actual world cup.

I don't know how you can possibly say "we will deal with it" when you don't know what "it" is.

What's the expected number of cases here requiring acute hospital treatment and what's our capacity?

Nor do you know what it is when it comes to Ireland. I’ve worked with hundreds of physicians from all over the world and the Irish are phenomenal. You’re entitled to your contrary opinion.

Anyway I don’t want to delay you from buying your plot on a deserted island with 1700 cans of rice and a goat. I’ll go back to writing HSE press releases.

11-02-2020 04:43PM

siobhan2005 wrote: »

10 year old son just brought the attached leaflet home from school.

Advice seems to be if student has been to china in past 14 days but does not have symptoms, then carry on as usual, no need to self isolate.

Similar advice for staff in schools, creches. If they have been to china in past 14 days, but they remain well, no specific measures are needed in the workplace.

Slightly worrying considering what we are hearing about asymptomatic spread.

But the super spreader showed no symptoms and look what happened there!

That’s really bad advice.

BorneTobyWilde · 11-02-2020 04:43PM

Two prisoners being tested in UK, How would they have got it ,

cnocbui · 11-02-2020 04:43PM

Larbre34 wrote: »

People need to stop catastrophising. In the event thing ever got bad, there are hundreds of solutions.

There are thousands of non-permanent residential beds on Third Level campuses that are easy enough to lock down, there are estate hotels and country clubs which likewise are well off the road and not too hard to secure. Even the likes of Center Parcs in Longford could be commandeered and set up as a sanitorium. School halls, leisure centres, even the National Sports Campus are massive capacity for isolation if it came to it.

There isn't a cure for this so it would only be a case of treating the symptoms and keeping patients hydrated. Those that succumb, succumb. We aren't talking plague here.

The very best thing Ireland has going for it is that at the stroke of a pen our Ports and Airports get shut down and that's us isolated, if needs be.

I have a some experience with the student accommodation at DCU. You would need to remove all doors to the rooms and probably fire doors. The rooms are so small and cramped they just wouldn't be appropriate unless you are talking of dumping people and leaving them to die.

BorneTobyWilde · 11-02-2020 04:44PM

https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1227263569332445184

cnocbui · 11-02-2020 04:44PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Two prisoners being tested in UK, How would they have got it ,

They are being tested, they probably don't have it.

11-02-2020 04:45PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Two prisoners being tested in UK, How would they have got it ,

Visitors / Guards / New prisoners ?

Critical thinking gone out the window?

tuxy · 11-02-2020 04:46PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Two prisoners being tested in UK, How would they have got it ,

Could only guess but a large number of prisoners in the UK get day release as they do not have enough space for everyone at once.

sReq | uTeK · 11-02-2020 04:47PM

What's happened to the people who've gotten better...are they just released back to society?

dinorebel · 11-02-2020 04:49PM

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

This country is full of morons and it has pandered to every lowlife subhuman scum we have.

Gangs out of control shooting each other break-ins junkies with hundreds of convections.

If you stock up on food and all the shops are shut you will just be robbed unless you can defend it.

Best to hook up with an ex law enforcement man and a small group of people and hold up on a ranch and lock all the infected into the barn.

Be on the lookout for a scary looking fu**er with a baseball bad covered in barbed wire if you see him it will be pee pee pants time.

Edit being serious there is nothing we can do to stop this thing so why worry?

So basically the plotline of The Walking Dead?

givyjoe · 11-02-2020 04:50PM

car_radio19834 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227257723072303104

Based on what evidence is this going to be over in April?! They haven't controlled it whatsoever in China. Are they just going to step testing people and then declare its over?!

dinorebel · 11-02-2020 04:51PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Two prisoners being tested in UK, How would they have got it ,

Anally at a guess.

CinemaGuy45 · 11-02-2020 04:52PM

dinorebel wrote: »

Anally at a guess.

So it got into the prison through a back door?;)

sReq | uTeK · 11-02-2020 04:53PM

What's happened to the people who've gotten better...are they just released back to society?

CinemaGuy45 · 11-02-2020 04:54PM

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

What's happened to the people who've gotten better...are they just released back to society?

If they have recovered and are no longer carrying the virus I would think so yes.

RebelButtMunch · 11-02-2020 04:55PM

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

What's happened to the people who've gotten better...are they just released back to society?

Yes

Larbre34 · 11-02-2020 04:56PM

dinorebel wrote: »

Anally at a guess.

You're buying me a new mouthful of coffee.

YFlyer · 11-02-2020 04:57PM

cnocbui wrote: »

I have a some experience with the student accommodation at DCU. You would need to remove all doors to the rooms and probably fire doors. The rooms are so small and cramped they just wouldn't be appropriate unless you are talking of dumping people and leaving them to die.

The older accommodation at UL be like that. Newer campus accommodation are mainly ensuite with double size beds.

11-02-2020 04:57PM

siobhan2005 wrote: »

10 year old son just brought the attached leaflet home from school.

You didn’t attach the leaflet, Siobhan.

Larbre34 · 11-02-2020 04:57PM

car_radio19834 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1227257723072303104

In the audio you can hear the safety switch being clicked back on the 9mm at the end.

Larbre34 · 11-02-2020 05:02PM

cnocbui wrote: »

I have a some experience with the student accommodation at DCU. You would need to remove all doors to the rooms and probably fire doors. The rooms are so small and cramped they just wouldn't be appropriate unless you are talking of dumping people and leaving them to die.

No one is talking about mass movement of patients on trolleys, most of them though unwell would be ambulant, ordinary wheelchairs and escape chairs would cover most of the rest. And of course it wouldn't be abandoning them to die, most would recover spontaneously once they get food water and pain management which is perfectly possible with barrier nursing protocols. They could even have wifi!

marvin80 · 11-02-2020 05:09PM

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

What's happened to the people who've gotten better...are they just released back to society?

We prefer not to talk about them in this thread.

GooglePlus · 11-02-2020 05:13PM

marvin80 wrote: »

We prefer not to talk about them in this thread.

I heard the Chinese are burning survivors with giant lasers

gozunda · 11-02-2020 05:14PM

This from a couple of days ago - on how the health care system here would cope in terms of available medical resources

A consultant in infectious diseases has outlined three possible scenarios for Ireland in dealing with a potential outbreak.

Prof Sam McConkey said in the best-case scenario, between 50 and 200 suspected cases of coronavirus would be promptly detected and isolated.

Should one or two patients test positive, Ireland is well prepared to care for them in isolation until they recover, he wrote in a Sunday newspaper.

In a situation where the suspected case numbers were small and the virus detected and diagnosed quickly, there would be no real risk to the population.

However, Ireland could be hit with the equivalent of another flu season, and he was concerned about the ability of the health service to cope with the extra pressure.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gps-to-get-personal-protection-packs-for-coronavirus-from-hse-980674.html

Yeah we'll be grand I reckon ...

MD1990 · 11-02-2020 05:19PM

I do think that a culture will need to be created to try prevent spreading not just Coronavirus but illness in general.
Beacause there will probably be more similar illness like this more often.

Experts were worried about this happening months ago.

pc7 · 11-02-2020 05:28PM

Just on the few bits extra for the cupboard to add to what was suggested earlier. Teabags, coffee, porridge, tinned fish, tinned fruit, herbs (to help flavor bland rice/pasta/noodles), miwadi, bleach, soap, black bags and water.

11-02-2020 05:34PM

I downloaded all the Primitive Technology videos in case I have to rebuild society from scratch.

s7ryf3925pivug · 11-02-2020 05:37PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4l7qvh5p80

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