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James Brown · 11-02-2020 03:11PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Except none of that is true.

More fake populist nonsense

So the shinner didn't shout 'up the 'ra' and the buck doesn't stop with the health minister? I'll miss that laugh, the FG government were the ministers are just a few lads with titles not responsible for anything.

Jinglejangle69 · 11-02-2020 03:12PM

Matt Barrett wrote: »

So the shinner didn't shout 'up the 'ra' and the buck doesn't stop with the health minister? I'll miss that laugh, the FG government were the ministers are just a few lads with titles not responsible for anything.

Well Simon Harris hiding results from 206 women is pure lies.

You know it, everyone knows it.

is_that_so · 11-02-2020 03:12PM

suicide_circus wrote: »

The HSE needs root and branch overhaul resulting in a whole lot of public sector workers having their noses put out of joint. FG didnt dare do it and SF would be ideologically opposed to even considering it.

Oh, it's being planned as we speak, and subject to government approval in about September, due to be rolled out in 2021.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 03:13PM

Only stable numbers for a new government since FG& FF have ruled out SF is FF/FG/Greens total 85 seats. Of course it leaves SF as the largest opposition party.
So FF &FG have to decide, step up to the plate or face a new election as the numbers do not exist for a SF government. Interesting times ahead.

is_that_so · 11-02-2020 03:15PM

Mantis Toboggan wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ChloeSheary/status/1226993938822811648?s=19

I see she subsequently tried to correct herself! That's the interweb for you. No take backsies!

limnam · 11-02-2020 03:15PM

Foxtrol wrote: »

The main culprits in that were the civil servants and no matter who is in government those same faces will be there

so it's as good as it gets

we can't expect anything better

die on a trolly..

ok...

doomed.

is_that_so · 11-02-2020 03:18PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Only stable numbers for a new government since FG& FF have ruled out SF is FF/FG/Greens total 85 seats. Of course it leaves SF as the largest opposition party.
So FF &FG have to decide, step up to the plate or face a new election as the numbers do not exist for a SF government. Interesting times ahead.

Adding up a few numbers is no insight into a likely reality. Overriding sentiment apparently is Ch- ch- ch- changes. FF & FG back in is not that.

This is it · 11-02-2020 03:20PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I see she subsequently tried to correct herself! That's the interweb for you. No take backsies!

I've just read some of her follow ups, you'd be embarrassed using her to score points in here.

Leroy42 · 11-02-2020 03:21PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Adding up a few numbers is no insight into a likely reality. Overriding sentiment apparently is Ch- ch- ch- changes. FF & FG back in is not that.

only 24% voted for SF. So change is not the only sentiment.

FF are the biggest seat party, based on that FF have a mandate to form a government. There appears to be a rush to make it out like SF won a majority or something and that the majority of the country wants them in government.

This is it · 11-02-2020 03:21PM

limnam wrote: »

so it's as good as it gets

we can't expect anything better

die on a trolly..

ok...

doomed.

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Eric Cartman · 11-02-2020 03:22PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Only stable numbers for a new government since FG& FF have ruled out SF is FF/FG/Greens total 85 seats. Of course it leaves SF as the largest opposition party.
So FF &FG have to decide, step up to the plate or face a new election as the numbers do not exist for a SF government. Interesting times ahead.

They can do it without the eco taxists, lots of independents

is_that_so · 11-02-2020 03:28PM

This is it wrote: »

I've just read some of her follow ups, you'd be embarrassed using her to score points in here.

Not using her to do anything, her "correction" is right at the top after the initial tweet. She just epitomises what a whole lot of social media is about, all keyboard warriors and no brains.

is_that_so · 11-02-2020 03:29PM

Leroy42 wrote: »

only 24% voted for SF. So change is not the only sentiment.

FF are the biggest seat party, based on that FF have a mandate to form a government. There appears to be a rush to make it out like SF won a majority or something and that the majority of the country wants them in government.

No deal with SF say FF party members - final arbiters.

This is it · 11-02-2020 03:31PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Not using her to do anything, her "correction" is right at the top after the initial tweet. She just epitomises what a whole lot of social media is about, all keyboard warriors and no brains.

I wasn't talking about you. And yes, I agree

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 03:35PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Adding up a few numbers is no insight into a likely reality. Overriding sentiment apparently is Ch- ch- ch- changes. FF & FG back in is not that.

Change is irrelevant when it comes to forming a government. Pragmatism wins out.
If FF & FG decide not from a government with the help of the Greens , SF don't have the numbers.Sound new election wonder how the voters will react I doubt it will be positive for the two that walked off the pitch.

Christy42 · 11-02-2020 03:40PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Adding up a few numbers is no insight into a likely reality. Overriding sentiment apparently is Ch- ch- ch- changes. FF & FG back in is not that.

That is about 50+% of the vote right there with the greens and some independents? So it appears the people did vote for that.

Though gene pool independents seems more likely than the greens.

If the people didn't want it they should have voted for less FG/FF candidates. This is how the system works. Not my preference but how the numbers shake it is an way of treading what the people wanted.

is_that_so · 11-02-2020 03:41PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Change is irrelevant when it comes to forming a government. Pragmatism wins out.
If FF & FG decide not from a government with the help of the Greens , SF don't have the numbers.Sound new election wonder how the voters will react I doubt it will be positive for the two that walked off the pitch.

They haven't walked off, their party members say no, just as the Green members could say no or the Ard Chomhairle say no to SF.

is_that_so · 11-02-2020 03:44PM

Christy42 wrote: »

That is about 51% of the vote right there with the greens? So it appears the people did vote for that.

Though gene pool independents seems more likely than the greens.

If the people didn't want it they should have voted for less FG/FF candidate. This is how the system works.

I think voters did a none of the above yet again and left the politicians to figure it out. Having the numbers does not automatically mean qualifying for government.

FreeThePants · 11-02-2020 03:44PM

Never going to happen and it could go dreadfully, dreadfully wrong but it's still a funny thought, harkening back to 1948 and getting a SF-GP-PBP-SD-approx 15 independents government would be nothing if not interesting!

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 03:44PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

They can do it without the eco taxists, lots of independents

Herding cats comes to mind along with a ridiculous shopping list.

Loafing Oaf · 11-02-2020 03:45PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They haven't walked off, their party members say no,

Is this just anecdotal or have they declared their position formally?

Brendan Bendar · 11-02-2020 03:47PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Change is irrelevant when it comes to forming a government. Pragmatism wins out.
If FF & FG decide not from a government with the help of the Greens , SF don't have the numbers.Sound new election wonder how the voters will react I doubt it will be positive for the two that walked off the pitch.

Why should the stay on the pitch if the others can’t play by the agreed rules.

is_that_so · 11-02-2020 03:47PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Is this just anecdotal or have they declared their position formally?

FG have to the camera and apart from a few mutterings on count day FF have too as far as I can see. I believe Labour are also out on SF as are unsurprisingly PBP.

James Brown · 11-02-2020 03:48PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Herding cats comes to mind along with a ridiculous shopping list.

Plumbthedepths · 11-02-2020 03:49PM

is_that_so wrote: »

They haven't walked off, their party members say no, just as the Green members could say no or the Ard Chomhairle say no to SF.

They have though. Amazingly FG told us how important Brexit was to the state and the sterling work Coveney and McEntee did both of whom were re-elected so there's the Brexit team back to negotiate. Is FG's ego more important than the state?
Greens have worked with FF before and are willing to did again, FF have supported FG for 4 years so no problem there. Seems it's only excuses being sought now. As I said won't play well to the voters

LeinsterDub · 11-02-2020 03:49PM

is_that_so wrote: »

FG have to the camera and apart from a few mutterings on count day FF have too as far as I can see. I believe Labour are also out on SF as are unsurprisingly PBP.

Where did PBP say they are out? Do you mean they are out on SF + FF or FG ?

Loafing Oaf · 11-02-2020 03:49PM

is_that_so wrote: »

FG have to the camera and apart from a few mutterings on count day FF have too as far as I can see. I believe Labour are also out on SF as are unsurprisingly PBP.

I'm asking specifically about FF party membership. I thought from the way you were talking there had been some sort of online ballot of them or something...

Christy42 · 11-02-2020 03:50PM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think voters did a none of the above yet again and left the politicians to figure it out. Having the numbers does not automatically mean qualifying for government.

If the voters left the politicians to figure it out then they can hardly complain when a valid government is out together. If the voters don't like it they can say a harder no at the next election.

Yes. In this case it does. If they have the numbers they can govern for the next few years. Giving them the numbers was the people saying ok. 42% of people had a preference for at least one of FF/FG in government. With more ok with it if they gave them a decent preference.

We have seen the winds of change in the election but not strong enough to entirely kill off the old guard. If it continues the old guard will disappear. However for now it could just be an increased say unless they work something out with SF.

Brendan Bendar · 11-02-2020 03:52PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

They have though. Amazingly FG told us how important Brexit was to the state and the sterling work Coveney and McEntee did both of whom were re-elected so there's the Brexit team back to negotiate. Is FG's ego more important than the state?
Greens have worked with FF before and are willing to did again, FF have supported FG for 4 years so no problem there. Seems it's only excuses being sought now. As I said won't play well to the voters

They haven’t though, if the Shinners policies are incompatible why the fcuuuuherke would they have anything to do with them politically.

is_that_so · 11-02-2020 03:52PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

They have though. Amazingly FG told us how important Brexit was to the state and the sterling work Coveney and McEntee did both of whom were re-elected so there's the Brexit team back to negotiate. Is FG's ego more important than the state?
Greens have worked with FF before and are willing to did again, FF have supported FG for 4 years so no problem there. Seems it's only excuses being sought now. As I said won't play well to the voters

That's a complete waste of a post! Their members say no to SF and that is the end of it. As for how that will play out, who knows what voters will think after 30, 60, 90 or 120 days of Lanigan's Ball.

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