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  • #1562
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »
    It would take another 10 years to put it right so that's another lost decade for anyone over 40

    Are you one of Leo's early risers or are you coming back from an all night bender?


  • #1563
    PommieBast
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,926 ✭✭✭PommieBast


    bubblypop wrote: »
    newly appointed TD in Wexford shouting 'up the ra' in his celebration speech

    classy. this is actually what people have voted for
    That pretty much sums up why I am glad I did not give SF any preferences. Maybe I ought to move to Berlin or Amsterdam as soon as I get my Irish passport..


  • #1564
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Cina wrote: »
    I really, really hope whoever gets in charge doesn't cancel MetroLink and BusConnects.

    Didn't FF want to scrap BusConnects?


  • #1565
    Cina
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,395 ✭✭✭Cina


    Ush1 wrote: »
    Didn't FF want to scrap BusConnects?

    Not just BusConnects, they want to potentially delay/change/scrap Metrolink too. It would be a disaster.


  • #1566
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Cina wrote: »
    Not just BusConnects, they want to potentially delay/change/scrap Metrolink too. It would be a disaster.
    Ah FFS


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  • #1567
    Snow Garden
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,126 ✭✭✭Snow Garden


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Sinn Féin Spokesperson for Brexit, David Cullinane, on the night of his election win: "UP THE RA!!!"

    Fúckin hell :pac:

    Like it or no, this stunt will have a bearing on the formation of the government.

    Cullinane is a stupid stupid man. Not to be trusted.


  • #1568
    Stateofyou
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,431 ✭✭✭Stateofyou


    micks_address wrote: »
    Well here's the thing... The government can change feic all. A la Trump in America...with all his shouting what major changes have come into effect?

    A lot, actually. I hardly even know where to start. Huge changes to immigration and travel bans and family deportations, and separations/treatment of migrants at the border. Tax cuts for the wealthy, hard luck for the middle/lower classes. His appointed Education secretary is an out of touch billionaire, no experience whatsoever in education. Funding in that sector has been cut for public schools as she plainly champions private/charter schools. Michelle Obama's healthy lunch program has also been rolled back. Funding and laws for the environment have been peeled back. This has caused MANY issues. Pulled out of the Paris Climate Accord - only country in the world to do so? Meanwhile military and southern border wall funds have been massively increased (ignoring aging infrastructure). An increase in hate crimes, according to the FBI late 2019, following the racist and sexist rhetoric he sets as example. A change in their court system by appointing assaulter/raper/conservative Supreme Court judge which is a lifetime appointment and shapes the laws of the land. Trump's administration has been trying to tear down Obamacare bit by bit (wanting ultimately to repeal it but no plans to replace with anything else) making it much harder for poorer Americans to get healthcare they need in a country where costs related to such will send one into financial ruin or an early grave. International trade isn't going so well, and Canada filed a violation charge against them with the WTO. For that matter, Trump is an international political disaster - an embarrassment and danger to Americans. (and the world) - dealings with Putin and calls for hacking his own political system, Kim Jon Un "Rocket Man," pulling troops from Syria, etc etc) Alright have to stop there I'm out of time, but here's a start.


  • #1569
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    Cina wrote: »
    Not just BusConnects, they want to potentially delay/change/scrap Metrolink too. It would be a disaster.

    The Greens also wanted to delay metro link by having it extended to South West. Ironic really.


  • #1570
    Ush1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,465 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/sinn-fein-surge-wipes-700m-off-aib-and-boi-38945672.html

    I'm sure there are some who will think this is good news.


  • #1571
    Sweet.Science
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,083 ✭✭✭Sweet.Science


    Ush1 wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/sinn-fein-surge-wipes-700m-off-aib-and-boi-38945672.html

    I'm sure there are some who will think this is good news.


    The irony is that there will be less money to build houses going forward


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  • #1572
    I see sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    Gynoid wrote: »
    I think some of the youth vote for Sinn Fein has an Antifa feel to it. In the US it is now quite legitimate for young people to admire hysterical people in balaclavas using violence or the threat of it as a legitimate means of defending against "facism", ie seriously intimidating anyone who does not adhere to your ideological creed on any chosen issue. The sneaking regard and moral relativism displayed by some posters on this thread for violence, the minimisation of recently past atrocities, the dismissal of present day dog whistles to justifiable violence, all seem to me to be an ignorant wish for social justice warrior identity politics, Irish style. Fools.

    Jesus, such delusional nonsense.

    Bringing Antifa into it is comical, the vast majority of Irish people have never heard of them

    You've confused 'ignorant wish for social justice warrior identity politics' with 'wish for some social justice' ;)

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • #1573
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,915 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Cina wrote: »
    Not just BusConnects, they want to potentially delay/change/scrap Metrolink too. It would be a disaster.

    In fairness, the money for the dole increases need to come from some where.

    Moneytrees will only get you so far.


  • #1574
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Ush1 wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/business/irish/sinn-fein-surge-wipes-700m-off-aib-and-boi-38945672.html

    I'm sure there are some who will think this is good news.

    Coronavirus has caused the price of crude and Asian stocks to fall.


  • #1575
    GDK_11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭GDK_11


    Expect to see plenty more “up the RA” stuff in the future. A lot of people still seem to identify with this for some strange reason, I mentioned on another thread that there are a lot of similarities to draw from the Brexit vote.

    There are of course a majority who voted cause they want change and whilst it wouldn’t be for me we love in a democracy and the votes should be respected. No doubt there are those whose only wish is a united Ireland and blaming the Brits for their troubles, there is undoubtedly a
    nationalist element across half the world at this stage.

    Those who sing these songs when they should be celebrating their achievements are no better than the moronic English football fans singing f*** the IRA. Wouldn’t it be nice to just live in the here and now - hopefully there will be a unification poll done peacefully and that can settle the debate until the next one anyway!!!!


  • #1576
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    facehugger99 wrote: »

    The electorate need a serious wake-up call.

    Yes this is what was typed.


  • #1577
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    Cupatae wrote: »
    Those poor poor English people , what did they ever do to deserve such things, what could drive someone to bomb there country , they wouldn't have pillaged murdered and killed men women and children themselves by any chance would they? Where's the outrage for our own that were murdered ? Causing all of this in the first place . Seems that's conviently left out.

    I don't condone the killing of Innocents but the fact they should hang there heads in shame for fighting back is disgrace especially after all the atrocities carried out against the "decent" people of this island by external forces.

    Wow. Feel the zealous unapologetic vengefulness!

    If you were American, you'd be wearing a MAGA hat!


  • #1578
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    GDK_11 wrote: »
    hopefully there will be a unification poll done peacefully and that can settle the debate until the next one anyway!!!!

    The only way to have a peaceful "unification poll" is not to have one.


  • #1579
    ldy4mxonucwsq6
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,537 ✭✭✭ldy4mxonucwsq6


    Still waters wrote: »
    Would it be so bad to let the clowns into government for a couple of years, let them make such a mess of it that people will never again give them a chance and let them see how hard it is to run a country without the guiding hand of whitehall, i can't see any sf led government lasting longer than 3 years, my only fear now if they don't get into power is, come the next election they'll sweep the board with a massive majority

    They are already letting their true colours and their real priorities show just days after the election.

    For those who didn't already know the history and what this party represents (and hence voted for them) this might come as a shock as they realise their mistake.

    Nothing has changed, and I fear the mess they make will have serious repercussions for the country lasting much longer than their government tenure.

    I'm hoping whoever goes into government with them is good at damage control.


  • #1580
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,369 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Matt Barrett wrote: »
    Now you're just lying. Hence the lack of quotes.

    Yet more deflection. Interesting how only one person agrees with this view, I don't need to quote you directly, this thread knows what you are, as do you clearly. They just have to read this thread, and any right thinking person will come to the same realisation. A person who claimed they never voted SF but would before the election. Then after the election they implied they still had not! It is wonderful duplicity.
    Deflect, deny. discredit, and hope it goes away the SF mantra.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1581
    GDK_11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 149 ✭✭GDK_11


    Snickers Man wrote: »
    The only way to have a peaceful "unification poll" is not to have one.

    Quite possibly but the issue is only going to become bigger now. SF will know that this may well turn out to be their biggest opportunity to get this done.


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  • #1582
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,369 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Snow Garden wrote: »
    Like it or no, this stunt will have a bearing on the formation of the government.

    Cullinane is a stupid stupid man. Not to be trusted.

    Plus what makes it worse he is 45 yet going on about H Blocks, Bobby Sands and up the ra.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1583
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,707 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Thing is, the people have done their bit and put FF and SF on level pegging (taking the Ceann Comhairle out of the equation). They now have to turn to the other parties for support. Now, if you were a centre left party like SD and Labour, you can now justify talking to FF and not SF because you don't talk to open supporters of terrorist organisations. The shouting of Up the ra, has weakened SF negotiating power IMO.

    This too shall pass.



  • #1584
    nigeldaniel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭nigeldaniel


    Just a musing for today after hearing some local SF band-wagoners at the shop this morning 'Over privileged 20ts somethings looking for excitement and a rush' that will explain the votes.

    Dan.



  • #1585
    Snickers Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭Snickers Man


    GDK_11 wrote: »
    Quite possibly but the issue is only going to become bigger now. SF will know that this may well turn out to be their biggest opportunity to get this done.

    I sense a poll coming on :)


  • #1586
    Idbatterim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    nigeldaniel wrote: »
    Just a musing for today after hearing some local SF band-wagoners at the shop this morning 'Over privileged 20ts somethings looking for excitement and a rush' that will explain the votes.
    Was that coming from the older generation that got their property for a pittance ? The ones claiming they are poor and can’t afford a tiny increase in the lpt? But the young in Dublin can pay sixty percent of income in some cases on rent ? Was it one of those liars ?


  • #1587
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,369 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    KWAG2019 wrote: »
    If you believe that political statements have an absolute and irrevocable status I applaud your world class naïveté. If you accept moral posturing by politicians at face value rather than understand them for the smoke screen for political self interest you are a world champion in innocence.

    It is not naive MM is steadfast in his views and the only way it seems he would go in bed with SF is in a body bag. So for FF to join with SF - MM would have to resign.
    The smoke screen of political self interest - that is interesting considering SF have tried to distant themselves of thier record in NI.

    SF have actually widened the gap between rich and poor in NI

    https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/02/10/celebrating-sinn-fein-election-surge-consider-their-pro-austerity-record-north
    FG did nothing to get this country back on track. They followed Lenihan plan and the directions of the IMF and the EU to stabilize the public finances after those were broken by casino capitalists and the nationalization of private capitalist debt. The fact that you think the country is on track says it all about your inability to see we have a failed society.

    Rubbish any fairminded person would see they were instrumental in sorting out Brexit. Near full employment following the most turbulent time in Irish history since the civil war.
    What did SF do during Brexit?
    Worse still thier Brexit spokesman was David 'up the ra' Cullinane.


    SF sat on thier hands. I know you are going to say that the ROI electorate (new SF voters) do not care about Brexit. But that only shows how they do not care about NI. Which is convient for SF as thier policies and results on health. housing and homelessness in NI are not srcutinised.

    Health NI:

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2019/1204/1097090-northern-ireland-health/

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:RVTQ7CyHeagJ:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/thousands-of-nurses-in-northern-ireland-strike-over-pay-1.4133733+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie

    Housing NI:

    https://thedetail.tv/articles/social-housing-bb946a8a-43df-450d-b8cd-66d71030cdf3

    Homelessness NI:

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/more-quarter-recent-uk-homeless-21114251

    Social Welfare NI:

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3Kdvi9pOC4gJ:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/sinn-f%25C3%25A9in-under-fire-over-welfare-cuts-move-1.2435441+&cd=4&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie


    No governance in Stormont for over three years


    Worse still SF sat on thier hands for three years playing games with the DUP in Stormont.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/10/pressure-mounts-northern-irish-parties-restore-power-sharing-sinn-fein-dup
    FFG carry the can for crashing the economy and the failure to restore a functioning society after it.
    Landlords are parasites. They need strict regulation and enforcement. Berlin has a 5 year rent freeze. Let’s have one. And if the Constitution needs changing think of how big the margin in favour would be.

    Again, conflating FG and FF perpetuating the SF myth. Hyperbole about landlords. Somehow there are no decent landlords in your view nothing hyperbolic about this at all. :rolleyes:

    Two thirds of all landlords only own one property for instance, but that does not suit your narrative.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/the-rent-report/the-accidental-landlords-most-own-just-one-property-31304758.html

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #1588
    nkl12xtw5goz70
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    It is not naive MM is steadfast in his views and the only way it seems he would go in bed with SF is in a body bag.

    It's not even just his views. He sees now that FF got hammered for propping up FG. Martin knows that they will suffer even more if they prop up SF politicians chanting "Up the Ra" and looking to tax everything that moves.

    SF targets young and working-class voters who believe they have nothing to lose by electing Syriza's fanbase to Dail Eireann. FF's base is older, wealthier, and will suffer more from the chaos.


  • #1589
    I see sheep
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Rubbish any fairminded person would see they were instrumental in sorting out Brexit.

    'Sorting out Brexit', what are you on about?

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • #1590
    KWAG2019
    Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭KWAG2019


    I see sheep wrote: »
    'Sorting out Brexit', what are you on about?

    I’m afraid that says it all about it


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  • #1591
    gormdubhgorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,369 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    I see sheep wrote: »
    'Sorting out Brexit', what are you on about?

    You must have missed the news

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/10/boris-johnson-and-leo-varadkar-say-they-see-pathway-to-brexit-deal

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/oct/10/brexit-latest-news-boris-johnson-varadkar-corbyn-no-deal-would-put-lives-at-risk-says-former-chief-medical-officer-live-news

    https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:kvnE6zanuhQJ:https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/uk/brexit-how-the-deal-was-done-and-why-the-varadkar-meeting-was-a-turning-point-1.4054437+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ie

    It is interesting in this time period SF were not in Stormont, still refused to go into Westminister, and merely were a spectator in the dail.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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