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Brendan Bendar · 10-02-2020 12:53PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Sorry English is not my first language.

No need for sorry, just clicking the train back on the tracks, in case of derailment.

Keep her lit...

meeeeh · 10-02-2020 12:54PM

lawred2 wrote: »

What's local property tax got to do with hording land banks?

It's a stable tax that doesn't disappear when economy gets in trouble. It's literally the worst tax to drop. That's the stupidity of SF manifesto. They say they will get money from highly mobile companies and individuals with plenty of money for tax advisers and they will drop sensible, reliable taxes that offer guaranteed income. It's reckless tax policy. I have no objection on what they want to spend money on (except bringing down pension age) but their tax policy is bat**** crazy.

lawred2 · 10-02-2020 12:57PM

meeeeh wrote: »

It's a stable tax that doesn't disappear when economy gets in trouble. It's literally the worst tax to drop. That's the stupidity of SF manifesto. They say they will get money from highly mobile companies and individuals with plenty of money for tax advisers and they will drop sensible, reliable taxes that offer guaranteed income. It's reckless tax policy. I have no objection on what they want to spend money on (except bringing down pension age) but their tax policy is bat**** crazy.

That's not what I asked.

Vacant land tax and the LPT are completely different topics.

I agree with you on dropping LPT. However I think it should have been a council tax personally. But for what it is now - it's better to have it than drop it.

Brendan Bendar · 10-02-2020 01:00PM

meeeeh wrote: »

It's a stable tax that doesn't disappear when economy gets in trouble. It's literally the worst tax to drop. That's the stupidity of SF manifesto. They say they will get money from highly mobile companies and individuals with plenty of money for tax advisers and they will drop sensible, reliable taxes that offer guaranteed income. It's reckless tax policy. I have no objection on what they want to spend money on (except bringing down pension age) but their tax policy is bat**** crazy.

Totally correct, that was the aim of the last Govt. to establish a tax base that would be stable and predictable and not like what happened in 2008 when FF blew the income from stamp duty and the boom.

Don’t expect the SF clowns seen in the RDS supporting that party to understand that .

McMurphy · 10-02-2020 01:00PM

lawred2 wrote: »

this is why property in Ireland is expensive because it costs nothing to horde land

Exactly, land banks and vacant sites are lying idle while their owners let them increase in value to be sold on to developers at obscene prices whiich contributes to the housing crisis.

Land is an asset, (they're not making any more of it these days) and if they can tax a family home, a land bank tax should be a doddle.

Use the land, or be taxed on it . Simple.

meeeeh · 10-02-2020 01:11PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Exactly, land banks and vacant sites are lying idle while their owners let them increase in value to be sold on to developers at obscene prices whiich contributes to the housing crisis.

Land is an asset, (they're not making any more of it these days) and if they can tax a family home, a land bank tax should be a doddle.

Use the land, or be taxed on it . Simple.

One of the bigger land hoarders are Dublin councils.

https://www.rte.ie/amp/974667/

But why deal with housing crisis when important issues like should we fly Palestinian flag have to be resolved.

McMurphy · 10-02-2020 01:12PM

Kate O'Connell lost her seat I see.

Would have preferred Mother Madigan to have been out on her ear, but half a loaf is better than no bread.

meeeeh · 10-02-2020 01:15PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Kate O'Connell lost her seat I see.

Would have preferred Mother Madigan to have been out on her ear, but half a loaf is better than no bread.

I'm sorry to see that, her put downs are brilliant. It's scary that Eoghan Murphy was elected instead of her.

gmisk · 10-02-2020 01:17PM

Any update on Dublin south Central?
Looks very tight between John Collins, Catherine's byrne and Catherine Ardagh.
I would think a lot of the greens transfer will go to Collins?

McMurphy · 10-02-2020 01:20PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I'm sorry to see that, her put downs are brilliant. It's scary that Eoghan Murphy was elected instead of her.

She's the owner of multiple pharmacies, and a landlord (I think I read on here) and there's nothing wrong with that at all, but at least she won't exactly be going cap in hand to the SW offices in the morning.

threeball · 10-02-2020 01:20PM

The numbers are stacking up very badly for Mehole. FG don't have the numbers to form a government with SF even if they wanted to. It's a nightmare scenario for him as the party is splitting over those who will talk and those who won't. Not ideal for MLM either as she really only has one suitor so going back saying we didn't want to dance with one another won't cut it.

Hopefully they have to come together and it wipes them both out.

Jizique · 10-02-2020 01:22PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Kate O'Connell lost her seat I see.

Would have preferred Mother Madigan to have been out on her ear, but half a loaf is better than no bread.

Do you not like women politicians?
Should she be at home minding the kids?
Did you not support her attempts to improve women’s health and move the country away from the FF-style 1950s when we were ruled by the church?
Or do you just not like FG?

meeeeh · 10-02-2020 01:28PM

Jizique wrote: »

Do you not like women politicians?
Should she be at home minding the kids?
Did you not support her attempts to improve women’s health and move the country away from the FF-style 1950s when we were ruled by the church?
Or do you just not like FG?

Yeah I noticed quite a few here especially celebrating some women losing.

astrofool · 10-02-2020 01:29PM

meeeeh wrote: »

It's a stable tax that doesn't disappear when economy gets in trouble. It's literally the worst tax to drop. That's the stupidity of SF manifesto. They say they will get money from highly mobile companies and individuals with plenty of money for tax advisers and they will drop sensible, reliable taxes that offer guaranteed income. It's reckless tax policy. I have no objection on what they want to spend money on (except bringing down pension age) but their tax policy is bat**** crazy.

Previous crisis/recession/depression caused by out of control house building, narrow tax base and high public sector pay and social welfare.

Sinn Féin 10 years later:
We'll build lots of houses, narrow the tax base again, and increase spending on public sector and social welfare

Public:
VOTE FOR THEM!

At least when all the hand-wringing happens afterwards, we can't say we weren't warned this time

listermint · 10-02-2020 01:30PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Yeah I noticed quite a few here especially celebrating some women losing.

To be fair. Anti female agenda is bull.

Some of the female candidates are very poor just like some of the male candidates.

Is it not ok to say that ?

Making it gender based is ridiculous frankly.

There's some ultra qualify candidates that have made it in from other parties. Personally I don't know what Kate has brought to the table since she won her seat.

Pintman Paddy Losty · 10-02-2020 01:31PM

McMurphy wrote: »

Kate O'Connell lost her seat I see.

Would have preferred Mother Madigan to have been out on her ear, but half a loaf is better than no bread.

Lot's of female politicians losing their seats. You must be pretty happy.

Ush1 · 10-02-2020 01:36PM

listermint wrote: »

If you think that will happen....

So Sinn Fein are lying then?

Brendan Bendar · 10-02-2020 01:37PM

My new best friend Jim O’Callaghan is saying it as it is on RTE 1, and fair fcuking play to him.

Basically telling the hard left to ‘schidt or get off the pot’.

Criticizing FF and FG constantly for the last number of years..... now go on do it.

gmisk · 10-02-2020 01:38PM

McMurphy wrote: »

She's the owner of multiple pharmacies, and a landlord (I think I read on here) and there's nothing wrong with that at all, but at least she won't exactly be going cap in hand to the SW offices in the morning.

Yep she has a tonne of property, I wouldn't think she will be broke after somehow...her and Eoghan murphy don't get on, would have much preferred get taking a seat

Idbatterim · 10-02-2020 01:38PM

trellheim wrote: »

Go down to Barrow St D4, docklands or Sandyford take a look at the cranes. "hindering" lol we're at full employment ffs .... what bit about that isnt to your liking

I see more low rise rubbish being put up, this is the problem!

Idbatterim · 10-02-2020 01:39PM

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

My new best friend Jim O’Callaghan is saying it as it is on RTE 1, and fair fcuking play to him.

Basically telling the hard left to ‘schidt or get off the pot’.

Criticizing FF and FG constantly for the last number of years..... now go on do it.

I think that is fair! But I also think its fair to say, FFG are a joke!

meeeeh · 10-02-2020 01:39PM

listermint wrote: »

There's some ultra qualify candidates that have made it in from other parties. Personally I don't know what Kate has brought to the table since she won her seat.

She was very strong on the abortion and she tried with some very sensible laws around exploitation of cancer sufferers by different quacks. She could be hardly worse than Eoghan Murphy and he was elected in the same constituency.

I thought Lisa Chambers is also fairly impressive and she lost.

Idbatterim · 10-02-2020 01:41PM

I don't think getting rid of LPT is a great idea BUT at the pathetic rate it is levied at, it bring in 500,000,000 that's one years bloody welfare increase!

I would favour a council tax and a meaningful one!

McMurphy · 10-02-2020 01:41PM

Jizique wrote: »

Do you not like women politicians?
Should she be at home minding the kids?
Did you not support her attempts to improve women’s health and move the country away from the FF-style 1950s when we were ruled by the church?
Or do you just not like FG?

I couldn't give a shiny shyte if kate were female or male - I just had her down as someone more interested in the limelight than achieving anything for the electorate of note.

I'd also like to have seen Charlie Flanagan lose his seat. Does that make me against bald men?

I was glad to hear Shane Ross was shown then door, maybe ive an under the surface anti English accent going on there.

I hear the sounds of barrels being scraped now.

Plumbthedepths · 10-02-2020 01:41PM

I only voted for one candidate on Saturday, a woman. Delighted that Regina lost her seat. I'd hazard her attitude on the debate concerning commuters did her serious harm.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 10-02-2020 01:42PM

Fann Linn wrote: »

Has Zappone been ejected yet?

She is 6th. Theres a recount between 10th and 11th atm.

pjohnson · 10-02-2020 01:42PM

Ah jaysus now its time for gender politics :pac:

Kermit.de.frog · 10-02-2020 01:43PM

https://twitter.com/john_mcguirk/status/1226844404691939328

Agree completely with this.

If you're struggling to put a roof over your head or food on the table do you really give a damn how many women may be elected?

Out of touch.

McMurphy · 10-02-2020 01:44PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Lot's of female politicians losing their seats. You must be pretty happy.

And loads new ones being elected in their place. Including the 2 candidates in North Kildare I gave my 1 and 2 votes to - and they ended up topping the poll!

Get up the yard please Paddy, you're a busted flush.

Birdie Num Num · 10-02-2020 01:44PM

Pintman Paddy Losty wrote: »

Lot's of female politicians losing their seats. You must be pretty happy.

One just elected in Cavan Monaghan. Think Adrian Donohoe and now put it in the context of 24 years ago!

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