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jester77 · 10-02-2020 09:54AM

Deleted User wrote: »

A great day for our country.

Do you really believe that?

I don't think having FF return to power with either FG or SF is a great day. There are no other realistic options given the results.

FrancieBrady · 10-02-2020 09:54AM

Fann Linn wrote: »

All of a sudden those victims who MM cried crocodile tears over last Thursday night are a distant memory.

Mairia Cahill, The Quinn family etc etc all being given two fingers. Power is all that matters to Michael. I have been saying it since the campaign started.

threeball · 10-02-2020 09:55AM

McMurphy wrote: »

If you listened to their biggest cheerleader (Eoghan Harris) on with Ivan on Thurs evening, he might as well be!

I heard it. It was like a party political broadcast for Sinn Fein. His ranting drove more voters to them

gmisk · 10-02-2020 09:57AM

rob316 wrote: »

FF are a party that governs, he will do anything to get into power. Does he want on his CV to be the only FF party leader that wasn't taoiseach?

It was absolutely foolish to say no way to doing business with any party before the election but he's a poor politician anyway who has lived off the smoking ban.

I thought James Reilly brought in the smoking ban?

McMurphy · 10-02-2020 09:59AM

threeball wrote: »

I heard it. It was like a party political broadcast for Sinn Fein. His ranting drove more voters to them

Yeah and poor Eoghan was so blind with his hatred and vitriol to see it at the time.

Talk about s hatchet job that backfired.

McMurphy · 10-02-2020 10:00AM

gmisk wrote: »

I thought James Reilly brought in the smoking ban?

James Reilly didn't get his ministerial role until 2011.

is_that_so · 10-02-2020 10:00AM

gmisk wrote: »

I thought James Reilly brought in the smoking ban?

Reilly just brought chaos and ego with him. He did try to drive the primary care centres, a good thing, but was overtly influential in the order of them coming on-stream.

johnmcdnl · 10-02-2020 10:00AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

FG need to realise they are being led by somebody who had to wait until the 5th count to be elected and whose party (while he is leader) have never won the popular vote.

He was 300 votes short of the quota and it took a bunch of rounds until the candidates with 1-2% we're eliminated so I'd not buy too much into that. I doubt anyone was expecting a bunch of transfers from Peter Casey to FG for example.

Not winning the popular vote is a bigger issue

Cork Boy 53 · 10-02-2020 10:01AM

Fann Linn wrote: »

All of a sudden those victims who MM cried crocodile tears over last Thursday night are a distant memory.

And this surprises you? As has been stated previously MM doesn`t want to go down in history as the first FF leader never to be Taoiseach and this must surely be his last chance to avoid that happening.

is_that_so · 10-02-2020 10:01AM

threeball wrote: »

I heard it. It was like a party political broadcast for Sinn Fein. His ranting drove more voters to them

I think people stopped listening to Eoghan Harris about 1986, but he's still good crank value now.

poppers · 10-02-2020 10:03AM

So does slippery Mickey speak to Mary Louor will he go Direct to the Shadowy figures in the Ard Chorlaire that he was so adamant made all the decisions.

10-02-2020 10:05AM

gmisk wrote: »

I thought James Reilly brought in the smoking ban?

The ban on smoking in the workplace, which included pubs was brought in by Martin in 2004 if memory serves me correctly.

FrancieBrady · 10-02-2020 10:06AM

poppers wrote: »

So does slippery Mickey speak to Mary Louor will he go Direct to the Shadowy figures in the Ard Chorlaire that he was so adamant made all the decisions.

He will have to deal with the 'shadowy figures' in his own party first according to Eamonn O'Cuiv last night.

'It is not one man's decision who we talk too, but the party's', was more or less what he said, echoed later by Pat The Cope in Donegal.

is_that_so · 10-02-2020 10:07AM

poppers wrote: »

So does slippery Mickey speak to Mary Louor will he go Direct to the Shadowy figures in the Ard Chorlaire that he was so adamant made all the decisions.

Rank and file will decide what he does in this case.

10-02-2020 10:07AM

is_that_so wrote: »

I think people stopped listening to Eoghan Harris about 1986, but he's still good crank value now.

Bertie certainly didn't stop listening to him by 86

LMC7 · 10-02-2020 10:10AM

MM is chomping at the bit for power,he'd go into coalition with the dogs on the street now for chance to be Taoiseach.
After all the ****e throwing he did with Sinn Fein/IRA...

Surprised enough with Kevin O'Keeffe losing out in Cork East,he lost to a polished 22 year old candidate that looks like he just made his confirmation.

Don't think he was too popular seemingly.

Fr_Dougal · 10-02-2020 10:11AM

The worst thing SF could do is go into government with FF. If things go pear shaped, they’ll go the same way the PDs went.

This is going to be hilarious.

LeinsterDub · 10-02-2020 10:12AM

poppers wrote: »

So does slippery Mickey speak to Mary Louor will he go Direct to the Shadowy figures in the Ard Chorlaire that he was so adamant made all the decisions.

He could very easily talk to the other side of the same coin instead

L1011 · 10-02-2020 10:12AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Apparently in some constituencies without SF candidates contesting that seat people wrote SINN FEIN across the ballet paper thus spoiling their votes.

Also some people have said they were voting 'MARY LOU' rather than SF.

There was only one constituency they didn't run in

CIARAN_BOYLE · 10-02-2020 10:18AM

L1011 wrote: »

There was only one constituency they didn't run in

Im curious now. Which constituency was that.

Injuryprone · 10-02-2020 10:18AM

How likely is it that Mary Lou becomes taoiseach? If the small left wing parties row in behind her, she'll probably have more votes than Micheál for taoiseach.

Although I don't think there's any chance FF/FG would entertain being a junior partner, and I don't think SF would go for being a junior party either if Mary Lou get the most votes for taoiseach.

So I think it'll either be a FF/FG/GP coalition or a revote. Both options would be good for SF, and I think they're smart enough to realise that.

johnmcdnl · 10-02-2020 10:22AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The worst thing SF could do is go into government with FF. If things go pear shaped, they’ll go the same way the PDs went.

This is going to be hilarious.

Or they'll claim they are being hampered by FF and try to use that to rile up more support because they tried? I get the feeling SF voters will be more lenient towards their own parties inaction than they allow for others.

road_high · 10-02-2020 10:22AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The worst thing SF could do is go into government with FF. If things go pear shaped, they’ll go the same way the PDs went.

This is going to be hilarious.

Well what about their mandate for “change” then? Have been hearing for years all the easy answers they have- the public want to see those in action now. SF will have to cobble together a government, with ff or otherwise

Cork Boy 53 · 10-02-2020 10:22AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Im curious now. Which constituency was that.

Mine, Cork NW. A candidate had been selected to run for SF months ago but she withdrew and nobody replaced her.

ednwireland · 10-02-2020 10:22AM

Injuryprone wrote: »

So I think it'll either be a FF/FG/GP coalition or a revote. Both options would be good for SF, and I think they're smart enough to realise that.

not so sure on the revote- how stable is that level of support for SF, if they run a load more candidates and lose a couple of percent of the vote they could be dropping seats, will the voters penalise them for not using there mandate this time to effect the change they say is needed.

i dont think its a simple as revote in a couple of months=more SF seats, although it might do that

Cork Boy 53 · 10-02-2020 10:24AM

DubInMeath wrote: »

The ban on smoking in the workplace, which included pubs was brought in by Martin in 2004 if memory serves me correctly.

Yes in March 2004.

Junkyard Tom · 10-02-2020 10:24AM

Fr_Dougal wrote: »

The worst thing SF could do is go into government with FF.

1. Go in for about a year
2. Find an excuse to collapse the government blaming FF
3. Go back to the electorate and bite another chunk out of FF/FG duopoly
4. Form FFFGFG (FF FG free Government)

road_high · 10-02-2020 10:25AM

johnmcdnl wrote: »

Or they'll claim they are being hampered by FF and try to use that to rile up more support because they tried? I get the feeling SF voters will be more lenient towards their own parties inaction than they allow for others.

Lol you’ve a very naive view of the Irish electorate if you think that’s going to be the verdict on SF- it’s never happened for any other party, even in the midst of an economic meltdown where things were largely gone outside political parties control. The public weren’t sitting around saying it was someone’s else fault, they blame the party’s in power

road_high · 10-02-2020 10:27AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

1. Go in for about a year
2. Find an excuse to collapse the government blaming FF
3. Go back to the electorate and bite another chunk out of FF/FG duopoly
4. Form FFFGFG (FF FG free Government)

This is nuts- there’s nowhere to hide in government. As sf will soon find out.
Other parties like labour and greens tried blame FF or FG. The electorate gave it zero quarter

Jizique · 10-02-2020 10:27AM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

He will have to deal with the 'shadowy figures' in his own party first according to Eamonn O'Cuiv last night.

'It is not one man's decision who we talk too, but the party's', was more or less what he said, echoed later by Pat The Cope in Donegal.

The only people celebrating this morning are the hard-core Brexiters (the Sinners are still in bed as usual); having SF near govt will be a disaster for the next phase and let’s face it, SF were against everything to do with the EU and I am not sure that has changed - their traditional arguments about “our fish” were simply adopted by Farage and his mates

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