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new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

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  • #4112
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Who has doors that can be welded?
    People with metal doors.


  • #4113
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    The welding of doors, quarantining of 400M people. There’s no way the official numbers are true. No government would do all that for 35k infections and 725 deaths.

    Fun you choose to believe former and not latter


  • #4114
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    People with metal doors.

    Who you know has metal doors?


  • #4115
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,270 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    The only way it would travel through water pipes is if the source was infected. Maybe it is. Don't see it happening here either way.

    How do you infect water with a travelling virus, would it be more of a biological weapon than a normal virus.


  • #4116
    MadYaker
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,340 ✭✭✭✭MadYaker


    Do people really watch a 5 second video on twitter and instantly take the caption below as fact? How can any of that be verified?


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  • #4117
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,270 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    The welding of doors, quarantining of 400M people. There’s no way the official numbers are true. No government would do all that for 35k infections and 725 deaths.

    They can't be if that video above about the body burning is real, there burning about 1000 a day..


  • #4118
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,158 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Who you know has metal doors?

    My external doors are all aluminium.


  • #4119
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,270 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    MadYaker wrote: »
    Do people really watch a 5 second video on twitter and instantly take the caption below as fact? How can any of that be verified?

    So what's with the big smoke trucks...


  • #4120
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cnocbui wrote: »
    My external doors are all aluminium.

    So can't be welded


  • #4121
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,158 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    Nuts

    That reminds me of the British Horror film Containment, in which the residents of a tower block in the UK find themselves quarantined then exterminated.


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  • #4122
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,079 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    2,500 die in road accident every day in China. Just for perspective.

    Social media panic, is my feeling.

    When was the last time a car crash in China killed people in other countries and caused an increase in crashes around the world??


  • #4123
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,158 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So can't be welded

    Are you serious?



  • #4124
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    Deleted User wrote: »
    So can't be welded
    Why could you not weld aluminium?


  • #4125
    Popeleo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 423 ✭✭Popeleo


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Who you know has metal doors?


    Very common in China.


  • #4126
    s7ryf3925pivug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,999 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    How do you infect water with a travelling virus, would it be more of a biological weapon than a normal virus.
    I don't know as I haven't studied how to perform terrorist attacks. But it is possible for drinking water to be contaminated. But it would be at the source and not travelling from one person's house to the next or anything like that.


  • #4127
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,359 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Kaya Prehistoric Landlord wrote: »
    I don't know as I haven't studied how to perform terrorist attacks. But it is possible for drinking water to be contaminated.

    You haven't watched enough terrorist movies


  • #4128
    bodhrandude
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,002 ✭✭✭✭bodhrandude


    Just looked at the current RTE report on Coronavirus and apart from the main story of five British being infected at the French ski resort no update on the unconfirmed cases. https://www.rte.ie/news/world/2020/0208/1113962-coronavirus/

    If you want to get into it, you got to get out of it. (Hawkwind 1982)



  • #4129
    wakka12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    2,147 new cases and 81 new deaths
    New infections definitely slowing down. Unsurprising really, dont see how such strict quarantine couldnt have hugely slowed it down


  • #4130
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,270 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    wakka12 wrote: »
    2,147 new cases and 81 new deaths
    New infections definitely slowing down. Unsurprising really, dont see how such strict quarantine couldnt have hugely slowed it down

    What your missing is only confirmed cases are being reported. So plenty of dead people being cremiated quickly but they weren't confirmed as infected so there not getting counted. Hence the true number is fudged.
    This guy puts it at 50,000 burned.

    https://twitter.com/Yurisabella1/status/1226269072821645313?s=20


  • #4131
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Popeleo wrote: »
    Very common in China.

    The door to my apartment has a reinforced metal door. Quite heavy, and has multiple bolt locks. As you said, quite common in China.


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  • #4132
    saabsaab
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,795 ✭✭✭saabsaab


    Denial, anger, bargaining, grief and acceptance.


  • #4133
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 2,732 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    drunkmonkey wrote: »
    So what's with the big smoke trucks...

    Who knows? Who even knows when it was filmed?


  • #4134
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    First things first the Chinese people are among the smartest people on this earth.

    The United States has 300 million people or so China has 1.3 billion.

    China has 3rd world conditions for some and ultra modern cities for others China is vast.

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    Think about the United States has hillbillies trailer trash ethnic ghettos along with some of the most impressive achievements in human history China is much the same with five times the population.

    Now we have a virus and common sense would say we should have stopped the spread by stopping travel to and from China as that is where the virus started but some called that racist.:rolleyes:

    Anyway the thing is out now and anybody can catch and spread the thing the only way to avoid risk is to lock yourself in a room with loads of water and food and keep every fecker away from you.

    I do not agree with panic nor to I agree with being complacent.
    This thing will could be the end for many of us or it could end as fast as it starts who knows.

    One I will say is the Irish Government is not going to save us.


  • #4135
    cnocbui
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,158 ✭✭✭✭cnocbui


    Deleted User wrote: »
    2,500 die in road accident every day in China. Just for perspective.

    Social media panic, is my feeling.

    The figure is 701 a day.


  • #4136
    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,270 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Who knows? Who even knows when it was filmed?

    Yesterday it was live on YouTube


  • #4137
    wellwhynot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭wellwhynot


    wakka12 wrote: »
    2,147 new cases and 81 new deaths
    New infections definitely slowing down. Unsurprising really, dont see how such strict quarantine couldnt have hugely slowed it down

    Or more likely no resources to test the new cases? It is not expected to peak until at least the April (China) and the rest of the world a few months later.

    While we are all worrying about ourselves, my heart goes out to the people dealing with what looks like a modern day apocalypse.


  • #4138
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 16,208 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Fr_Dougal wrote: »
    The welding of doors, quarantining of 400M people. There’s no way the official numbers are true. No government would do all that for 35k infections and 725 deaths.

    FFS. I swear people online have some weird ideas about China.

    IF the numbers of people infected/dying were as high as you people seem to want, then the news wouldn't be able to be contained. The Chinese firewall is easily bypassed. Chinese Social media apps are accessible outside of China, and often aren't monitored by government agencies, except for certain high profile sites.

    I'm on Chinese social media, and I've been following the posts put up by colleagues, friends and students. If the virus, and it's effects were as common as you want it to be, then there would be far more videos from people I know (since Chinese students video & share almost everything).. but there aren't. Plenty of reports of government negligence, and complaints about their behavior in general, but not the mass panic that would arise from such an outbreak.

    Is the Chinese government fudging numbers? Definitely. I have no idea by how much... and I'm not going to go around shouting random numbers just to sensationalise it. Which I find many on this thread seem to want to do.


  • #4139
    CinemaGuy45
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭CinemaGuy45


    Deleted User wrote: »
    FFS. I swear people online have some weird ideas about China.

    IF the numbers of people infected/dying were as high as you people seem to want, then the news wouldn't be able to be contained. The Chinese firewall is easily bypassed. Chinese Social media apps are accessible outside of China, and often aren't monitored by government agencies, except for certain high profile sites.

    I'm on Chinese social media, and I've been following the posts put up by colleagues, friends and students. If the virus, and it's effects were as common as you want it to be, then there would be far more videos from people I know (since Chinese students video & share almost everything).. but there aren't. Plenty of reports of government negligence, and complaints about their behavior in general, but not the mass panic that would arise from such an outbreak.

    Is the Chinese government fudging numbers? Definitely. I have no idea by how much... and I'm not going to go around shouting random numbers just to sensationalise it. Which I find many on this thread seem to want to do.

    You cannot blame people for speculation.

    Here is a novel idea why don't Governments just be open and tell the truth?


  • #4140
    odyssey06
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,105 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Deleted User wrote: »
    2,500 die in road accident every day in China. Just for perspective. Social media panic, is my feeling.

    China is run by an authoritarian regime. They are not accountable to voters. They don't give two hoots about social media panic.

    They quarantined a province of 11 million people because they know the real number of people dying, they know the medical facilities in that province are overwhelmed and their stock of essential PPEs are exhausted.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #4141
    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Deleted User wrote: »
    FFS. I swear people online have some weird ideas about China.

    IF the numbers of people infected/dying were as high as you people seem to want, then the news wouldn't be able to be contained. The Chinese firewall is easily bypassed. Chinese Social media apps are accessible outside of China, and often aren't monitored by government agencies, except for certain high profile sites.

    I'm on Chinese social media, and I've been following the posts put up by colleagues, friends and students. If the virus, and it's effects were as common as you want it to be, then there would be far more videos from people I know (since Chinese students video & share almost everything).. but there aren't. Plenty of reports of government negligence, and complaints about their behavior in general, but not the mass panic that would arise from such an outbreak.

    Is the Chinese government fudging numbers? Definitely. I have no idea by how much... and I'm not going to go around shouting random numbers just to sensationalise it. Which I find many on this thread seem to want to do.

    You’ve quoted my post. Now can you tell me where in my post I’ve mentioned any numbers.

    And you contradict yourself in your last paragraph by saying that numbers are fudged, but you have no idea as to how much.

    Thanks.


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