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Dublin Coach Experience Discussion Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,951 ✭✭✭Kopparberg Strawberry and Lime


    The speed on a coach/ bus is calibrated legally but they can be off due to various different things such as tires etc.

    A coach I drive tomorrow could be set up to 100 km/h and if I take out the GPS for speed only and use it , it may show me doing 97kmh or 101kmh depending on the bus.

    Again could be down to things such as tyre wear and calibration etc.

    I've often sat in the car on a road at 100kmh and been over taken by a bus that seems to be moving a fair whack faster but when you crack out the GPS again the car is reading differently on the dash than the GPS. The dash could show 100 when infact you are only doing 95.

    All these factors play a part so I wouldn't assume they aren't limited just like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭bikeman1


    The speed on a coach/ bus is calibrated legally but they can be off due to various different things such as tires etc.

    A coach I drive tomorrow could be set up to 100 km/h and if I take out the GPS for speed only and use it , it may show me doing 97kmh or 101kmh depending on the bus.

    Again could be down to things such as tyre wear and calibration etc.

    I've often sat in the car on a road at 100kmh and been over taken by a bus that seems to be moving a fair whack faster but when you crack out the GPS again the car is reading differently on the dash than the GPS. The dash could show 100 when infact you are only doing 95.

    All these factors play a part so I wouldn't assume they aren't limited just like that.

    In my car 127 kph on the digital display is 120kph on the GPS, so that is true that there is a variation on the speedos.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,945 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    road_high wrote: »
    I'd say it's extremely hard to recruit in Ireland (especially for a company like DC). A few weeks ago driver on mine was a very well spoken middle class Irish guy which was quite a shock, very much the exception.

    They have quiet a few Brits as well
    road_high wrote: »
    When i got it back from Cork the bus took a very circuitous route in Waterford- turned left after WIT/old Waterford Crystal site and up through older housing estates and by the Super Valu and down into the Quays- does it normally do this? I'd have assumed it would take the normal route into the city via Manor st as that would be much quicker I'd imagine?

    Where did they come out one of the narrow streets or over rice bridge to turn back.

    Before Christmas one turned over by the station and did a 360 outside the bus station to access the stop blocking the while place up instead of going 300m or so to the roundabout and turning.
    road_high wrote: »
    Like what? BE already chopped the X7 giving DB a free hand to Kilkenny and the DC route seems to be doing very well now. I would like to see some of the X/4 's serve Kilkenny but appreciate people in Waterford like a direct run up the M9 if possible.

    Most route 4 don't use the M9 these days.

    They have noticed the level of KK-Waterford traffic and possibly adjusting route 40 to cater and putting newer buses on the route.

    Time will tell but I think to little to late...
    road_high wrote: »
    Wasn't there a 2.00am service from the Airport that went via Kilkenny- is that gone now as well, can't see it on the timetable.

    EDIT- Sorry that was JJ Kavannagh I was thinking of!

    The 02.30 BE called Kilkenny-Carlow-Airport for a few years. It was dropped when they extended 4 to New Ross to fill in for the cancellation of cross country Waterford-Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,134 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    I’m rubbish on Waterford street names but it came down the hill past the Aldi with multi storey car park down a narrow street and right into the Quay and back down to the roundabout and around towards the M9 direction. I really assume that is not the approved route? Maybe there was a crash or something he was avoiding but on everyday route it made absolutely no sense to be trapsing a large coach through residential streets with lots of parked cars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭91wx763


    road_high wrote: »
    I’m rubbish on Waterford street names but it came down the hill past the Aldi with multi storey car park down a narrow street and right into the Quay and back down to the roundabout and around towards the M9 direction. I really assume that is not the approved route? Maybe there was a crash or something he was avoiding but on everyday route it made absolutely no sense to be trapsing a large coach through residential streets with lots of parked cars.

    The Glen into Penrose Lane you mean. W1 and W5 go down there too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 537 ✭✭✭91wx763


    And the 1645 off the WIT to Dublin (05 decrepit Setra with mismatched tinted/not tinted windows) has just left at 1641, passengers jogging in the Cork Road to try catch it up in the traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    91wx763 wrote: »
    And the 1645 off the WIT to Dublin (05 decrepit Setra with mismatched tinted/not tinted windows) has just left at 1641, passengers jogging in the Cork Road to try catch it up in the traffic.

    Tinted were original so any get broke they replace with clear.

    Seen a few 2004 like that too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭dzilla


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »



    Where did they come out one of the narrow streets or over rice bridge to turn back.

    Before Christmas one turned over by the station and did a 360 outside the bus station to access the stop blocking the while place up instead of going 300m or so to the roundabout and turning.


    Winterval maybe?? The mall does be blocked


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭ExoPolitic


    road_high wrote:
    I’m rubbish on Waterford street names but it came down the hill past the Aldi with multi storey car park down a narrow street and right into the Quay and back down to the roundabout and around towards the M9 direction. I really assume that is not the approved route? Maybe there was a crash or something he was avoiding but on everyday route it made absolutely no sense to be trapsing a large coach through residential streets with lots of parked cars.


    Yeah, they do that to avoid the gridlock on parnell Street at busy times. Lots of the city buses take that route.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭JeffK88


    Lads, just asked a driver of a DC to turn off the heat today on a bus and he did. Plus turned on the aircon bonus.. I guess you can just ask rather than bake alive


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,986 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    The drivers are odd, on one long trip to Dublin we had a young guy who looked like a skater absolutely tearing it up the motorway, an old lady behind me was fit to lose her life, shouting loudly (well within earshot of the driver) about how the driver is mad and she's never taking this bus again!

    There’s a missed opportunity to quote lines to her from the movie Speed.

    There's a bomb on a bus.
    Once the bus goes 50 miles an hour,
    the bomb is armed.
    If it drops below 50, it blows up.
    What do you do?
    What do you do?


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    JeffK88 wrote: »
    Lads, just asked a driver of a DC to turn off the heat today on a bus and he did. Plus turned on the aircon bonus.. I guess you can just ask rather than bake alive

    DC tend to over do the heat. I always try to have water on DC for this reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    There’s a missed opportunity to quote lines to her from the movie Speed.

    There's a bomb on a bus.
    Once the bus goes 50 miles an hour,
    the bomb is armed.
    If it drops below 50, it blows up.
    What do you do?
    What do you do?

    Pop quiz hot shot....

    If only they turned the fog lights off everything would be fine...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,327 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    DC tend to over do the heat. I always try to have water on DC for this reason.

    Helps with engine cooling.


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    We are broken down on the edge of a roundabout just outside Waterford. Do they not maintain these things at all? I think this is the third breakdown since June. This is on top of the bus arriving 15 minutes late at the pick up point in Kilkenny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    We are broken down on the edge of a roundabout just outside Waterford. Do they not maintain these things at all? I think this is the third breakdown since June. This is on top of the bus arriving 15 minutes late at the pick up point in Kilkenny.

    Seems the standard features of putting your life in their hands.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,139 ✭✭✭patrickc


    We are broken down on the edge of a roundabout just outside Waterford. Do they not maintain these things at all? I think this is the third breakdown since June. This is on top of the bus arriving 15 minutes late at the pick up point in Kilkenny.

    what bus is it/year?

    I've noticed newer coaches on this route all week. the oldest being 2010 which is new for that route!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Haven't seen the Chinese coach in a while???


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    I think it was a Setra coach. Not sure of the year. Our replacement coach arrived. That's water between the glass on the bus in the picture. I uploaded from my phone. The orientation is wrong but you get the idea.

    Uploaded a screen shot of photo instead. Orientation correct in that one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭WishUWereHere


    I think it was a Setra coach. Not sure of the year. Our replacement coach arrived. That's water between the glass on the bus in the picture. I uploaded from my phone. The orientation is wrong but you get the idea.

    Uploaded a screen shot of photo instead. Orientation correct in that one.

    Thirty minutes from breakdown to replacement coach arrives. That’s quick, they got a depot down there?


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,974 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Haven't seen the Chinese coach in a while???

    It's no longer licensed for service and hasn't been for a while.


  • Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 2,585 Mod ✭✭✭✭Nigel Fairservice


    Thirty minutes from breakdown to replacement coach arrives. That’s quick, they got a depot down there?

    I think the replacement coach came from Kilkenny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭embraer170


    When are the new coaches arriving?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    devnull wrote: »
    It's no longer licensed for service and hasn't been for a while.

    It's a 2014 though isn't it?
    To expensive for parts maybe?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    embraer170 wrote: »
    When are the new coaches arriving?

    They'll only go on Belfast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭thenightman


    Was a very stressed out looking DC mechanic trying to get one of the Setras going at the Red Cow Luas at 8am the other morning. He managed it after about 5 mins prodding and searching around the engine bay with his spotlamp. Doesn't exactly fill the customers queuing up for said bus with confidence though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,831 ✭✭✭john boye


    devnull wrote: »
    It's no longer licensed for service and hasn't been for a while.

    But somehow the setras still are?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,134 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Got it from Dublin to Kilkenny this eve. They put on a separate bus to Kilkenny only- Waterford bus was the first one- only 45 mins later than the scheduled time! But was one of the very comfortable lovely Merc buses.
    Be great if they would just scrap the old Setras and have all these ones. Personal lights, vents that work. Also USB charging points which is very handy.
    Route has really taken off. People love the direct route via the motorway I guess


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,123 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    embraer170 wrote: »
    When are the new coaches arriving?

    Some of you post this sort of question assuming that it will sort their problems out, it won't. A partial fleet replacement with new coaches will not solve the underlying issues with DC that have plagued this operator for years.

    Their maintenance standards are appalling, coaches do astronomical mileage and unless the inspection and servicing regime is pre-empting failures they will have a high fault rate. This is true of newer vehicles as well as old ones and the fact that newer DC coaches are also to be seen sitting by the roadside bears this out.

    Other operators use vehicles as old or older than the DC Setras and do not litter our main roads with defective coaches in the way this crowd do. Aircoach never had the same level of incidents with the very same vehicles which they ran intensively up to their sale.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    Some of you post this sort of question assuming that it will sort their problems out, it won't. A partial fleet replacement with new coaches will not solve the underlying issues with DC that have plagued this operator for years.

    Their maintenance standards are appalling, coaches do astronomical mileage and unless the inspection and servicing regime is pre-empting failures they will have a high fault rate. This is true of newer vehicles as well as old ones and the fact that newer DC coaches are also to be seen sitting by the roadside bears this out.

    Other operators use vehicles as old or older than the DC Setras and do not litter our main roads with defective coaches in the way this crowd do. Aircoach never had the same level of incidents with the very same vehicles which they ran intensively up to their sale.

    It was the same man running it, they were leased, he sold out, ends up buying the clapped out dung, runs till they crash or burn... Literally.

    He must be making money on this venture as with aircoach it was loss making but made a killing selling it off/licence to first group.

    First kept this sermcret for a long time and eventually they put their brand name on their fleet.

    Aircoach Tri axle fleet are getting near their end too..


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