new coronavirus outbreak China, Korea, USA - mod warnings in OP (updated 24/02/20)

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-02-06/coronavirus-quarantine-starts-in-san-diego
Five Americans on Wuhan evacuation flight are hospitalised in San Diego with suspected coronavirus, all five developed symptoms during the flight and had no fever upon boarding

Yurt! wrote: »

Could mean one of two things:

a. Infections are accelerating far beyond what we are being told.

or,

b. The backlash from the whistleblower doctor dying has spooked the party, who are now more afraid about the political cost of this than the human cost, and are taking every measure to be seen to contain the virus.

My gut says b.

But the responses from other countries have also been dramatic and unprecedented. The crazy measures also began long before the whistleblower died

SeaBreezes wrote: »

That's what I don't get. The panic. For a disease with a 2% fatality?
China are pulling out all the stops.

Well to be fair , 2% is pretty bad. Anything above 2% mortality is considered a majorly destructive pandemic by CDC/WHO. Especially with how spreadable it appears to be, swine flu is less infectious and is thought to have infected 2 billion peopple, 2 billion infected with 2% mortality rate is more than 1 in every 200 people worldwide dying, which is obviously extremely significant

wakka12 wrote: »

More madness:


China's fifth largest city! Now under quaratine
http://m.xinhuanet.com/gd/2020-02/07/c_1125542462.htm

Singapore supermarkets cleared out in panic buying
https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/f08aiq/supermarkets_are_absolutely_getting_smashed/

Not wearing a mask in public in Beijing now an arrestable offence
http://www.nbd.com.cn/articles/2020-02-07/1406283.html

Chinese travellers to hong kong who refuse quaratine may be imprisoned
https://edition.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-02-07-20-intl-hnk/h_1a6a433b5a373183b7c507084735cf04

Jesus I really have to say I'm not worried about this when I read reports on how many people are actually killed or made very ill by this virus but then measures like this abroad make think its much worse, just out in Dublin city centre at the mo and it's really so crazy to think this is all going on on the other side of the world..its just so normal here

Good link, first one is a bit wrong, the city is Guangzhou and it's not really a quarantine, it says restricted movement, like 1 can leave every other day for supplies.

ardinn wrote: »

Johns uploading early!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnF-7qYmJGc

Thanks for that, who is that though, I've missed him up to now?

One summary I was listening too was saying their are now essentially 3 epicentres so the daily totals will balloon going forward. Pretty much assume it cant be contained within China I'd imagine

silverharp wrote: »

One summary I was listening too was saying their are now essentially 3 epicentres so the daily totals will balloon going forward. Pretty much assume it cant be contained within China I'd imagine

Well, im pretty sure there are huge restrictions on travel to china now - so if places can get the current cases under control then hopefully, big if tho.

1 thing I have noticed is Australia, USA, and other countries confirmed cases have remained static for about three days now - oz and usa still at 12, was 12 on wednesday and possibly tuesday iirc. So that is fairly positive (ish)

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

The Aussies (15 cases at least) have their own Island for putting new arrivals from China (and now perhaps other nearby countries), they won't get a glimpse of the Harbour Bridge, or the MCG until at least 14days of quarantine.

The aussies are sending the people they don't want to an island? It kinda reminds me of something...

well better than this:
https://twitter.com/howroute/status/1225480460979056642

Legacy Better Explosion wrote: »

Sorry I don't ever bother to click on random Twatter links.

The aussies like everyone, are now using 14day quarantine for travellers from China, after that all is good and well.

They however are very strict with illegal migration in general (boat crossings etc), compared to the uk who had 90 (ninety) headed for Dover just yesterday, the most they've ever had in a single day, and received about 2,000 for last year across the Eng channel.

They're now starting to put them in an old mining camp in the middle of the outback.

On the lash in Bangalore tonight if anyone's about

ardinn wrote: »

If you take the other estimates - 600,000 inf - 25,000 dead - It's a 4% Fatality rate.

There are probably thousands of people dead in their homes - especially in wuhan. The DR could actually be massive! But we just dont know!

Not that I believe any of the numbers coming out of China
but even with a mortality rate of 2% this is still a big deal. It has an R0 of >2, no vaccines yet, and as the virus mutates quite quickly you don't develop an immunity after recovering.

If this spreads worldwide we will keep having serious breakouts of this all over the world for years to come - if we don't contain it now while the numbers are manageable (outside of China anyways), it'll soon be too widespread to contain.

Like think of the common cold - its global, its always spreading, you always catch it again and again. Now imagine each time you caught it there was a 2% chance of death.