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President Donald Trump - Formal Impeachment Inquiry Announced

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Boggles wrote: »
    We Hear You Paddy!!! Twice.
    Ok Paddy Boggle, no need to get upset.

    But it does looks like he's getting even more popular with each and evey passing day, by Spring the Dems may just resign themselves to an early loss, and plan for 2024 instead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,723 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Mike pence is fully involved. If they impeach trump he will be next.
    Link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles



    Cringe.

    Is not a surprise he has the lowest approval rating of all GOP senators.

    Universally hated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,723 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Pelosi has become a Donald Trump clone now. She stooped to his level. Nobody should ever do that, you must remain above it all so that his actions look reprehensible. When you do what he does then he doesn't look so bad.
    I wish I was a rich man, is it too late for Martin Heinrich to enter the race?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Ok Paddy Boggle, no need to get upset.

    But it does looks like he's getting even more popular with each and evey passing day, by Spring the Dems may just resign themselves to an early loss, and plan for 2024 instead.

    Incumbent President is favorite shocker!!!

    Any more pearls of wisdom there Mystic Meg?

    :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Pelosi has become a Donald Trump clone now. She stooped to his level. Nobody should ever do that, you must remain above it all so that his actions look reprehensible. When you do what he does then he doesn't look so bad.
    I wish I was a rich man, is it too late for Martin Heinrich to enter the race?

    Unless she starts raw dogging porn stars, sexually assaulting people or trying to blackmail Ukraine into cheating an election, I don't think she will get near his level TBF.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Iang87


    Ok Paddy Boggle, no need to get upset.

    But it does looks like he's getting even more popular with each and evey passing day, by Spring the Dems may just resign themselves to an early loss, and plan for 2024 instead.

    Wasn't Trump and brexit both massive odds to win first time round.

    I've a vague recollection of no brexit as short as 1/10 on the day of


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    kilns wrote: »
    You should learn to read first before you reply. He is a vain and vindictive man, we will see evidence of that today when he attacks Romney.

    So, if he gets a second term, he will not have to worry about re-election and so will go all out to destroy his enemies, those that have crossed him and those sections of soiciety he has contempt for without any accountability from the senate (if the republicans hold it).

    But in any case if the Democrats run a half decent campaign they will defeat him because any person with a conscious and half a brain will see him for what he is

    Course he will. Just like he nuked N. Korea :rolleyes:

    He'll stroll the 2020 election. I'd say thats killing you :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭Winning_Stroke


    Course he will. Just like he nuked N. Korea :rolleyes:

    Two years ago: "TRUMP IS INSANE! HE'S GOING TO GO TO WAR WITH NK!"

    Remember the media in love with the high up woman NK sent to the winter olympics and was photo-ed giving daggers to Pence?

    Then when Trump meets up with Kim, "OMG! HE'S TALKING TO A DICTATOR!!"

    The past few years have been exhausting for some people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Iang87 wrote: »
    Weren't Trump and brexit both massive odds to win first time round.
    I've a vague recollection of no brexit as short as 1/10 on the day of vote
    Yes, huge profits on both, more so the Donald.

    Don opened 100/1, went to 25/1 (there was a big thread here on it, very funny). On election night as votes were being counted, the bookies lost the plot and offered 10/1 for him briefly.

    Brexit to be fair was an AvB scenario, typically averaged 3.6, which is still good value (put down 100 get back total of 360).

    This year there is no profit to be made, when you get close to 1.5, the risk v reward offer isn't as appealing. Only potential value might be Warren for DN, as the rest of them are pure pants.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    Course he will. Just like he nuked N. Korea :rolleyes:

    He'll stroll the 2020 election. I'd say thats killing you :D

    what has nuking North Korea got to do with it, stick to the topics raised or dont engage in a conversation you can not handle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Two years ago: "TRUMP IS INSANE! HE'S GOING TO GO TO WAR WITH NK!"

    Wonder where they got that idea?
    North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States - They will be met with fire and the fury like the world has never seen.

    Meanwhile North Korea are still testing missiles and threatening the United States.

    What was it they said?
    Dotage of a Dotard

    :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 224 ✭✭Winning_Stroke


    Boggles wrote: »
    Wonder where they got that idea?

    That war was immiment? Well a combination of media hysterics and people having believed everything shovelled in the 2016 campaign.
    Meanwhile North Korea are still testing missiles and threatening the United States.

    Oh no, he didn't solve it 100% Dang. Is the situation better or worse? Were the War predictions so totally wrong, as to be hilariously bad up there with the best of them?

    Serious q, if you subscribed to the "OMG this is gonna be war" soon attitude to NK and then decried him for talking to NK... isn't your world view totally messed up? If you've been consistently wrong about pretty much every prediction you had about what the man would do in his presidency... should't you start to reconsider where it is you get your info? Or that you're thinking has been programmed to some degree in the wrong direction?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,947 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    That war was immiment? Well a combination of media hysterics and people having believed everything shovelled in the 2016 campaign.



    Oh no, he didn't solve it 100% Dang. Is the situation better or worse? Were the War predictions so totally wrong, as to be hilariously bad up there with the best of them?

    Serious q, if you subscribed to the "OMG this is gonna be war" soon attitude to NK and then decried him for talking to NK... isn't your world view totally messed up? If you've been consistently wrong about pretty much every prediction you had about what the man would do in his presidency... should't you start to reconsider where it is you get your info? Or that you're thinking has been programmed to some degree in the wrong direction?

    He was completely suckered by Kim. So much for being great at making deals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    That war was immiment?

    What credible source said war with North Korea was imminent?

    If the POTUS is saying he is going to Nuke a country, that is news worthy right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    That war was immiment? Well a combination of media hysterics and people having believed everything shovelled in the 2016 campaign.



    Oh no, he didn't solve it 100% Dang. Is the situation better or worse? Were the War predictions so totally wrong, as to be hilariously bad up there with the best of them?

    Serious q, if you subscribed to the "OMG this is gonna be war" soon attitude to NK and then decried him for talking to NK... isn't your world view totally messed up? If you've been consistently wrong about pretty much every prediction you had about what the man would do in his presidency... should't you start to reconsider where it is you get your info? Or that you're thinking has been programmed to some degree in the wrong direction?

    The situation is neither worse nor better. The supposedly best deal maker in the history of man kind got played and was used as a puppet to legitimise NK as a nation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,872 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    That war was immiment? Well a combination of media hysterics and people having believed everything shovelled in the 2016 campaign.



    Oh no, he didn't solve it 100% Dang. Is the situation better or worse? Were the War predictions so totally wrong, as to be hilariously bad up there with the best of them?

    Serious q, if you subscribed to the "OMG this is gonna be war" soon attitude to NK and then decried him for talking to NK... isn't your world view totally messed up? If you've been consistently wrong about pretty much every prediction you had about what the man would do in his presidency... should't you start to reconsider where it is you get your info? Or that you're thinking has been programmed to some degree in the wrong direction?

    It's exactly as it was when Trump got elected, except Kim made Trump look like a complete mug.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    kilns wrote: »
    what has nuking North Korea got to do with it, stick to the topics raised or dont engage in a conversation you can not handle

    It is showing up the nonsense fantasist wet dreams that you and people like you come up with about Donnie in your heads. Last election he was gonna start WW3. This time he "will go all out to destroy his enemies, those that have crossed him and those sections of soiciety he has contempt for without any accountability from the senate (if the republicans hold it)." according to you. :D:D

    Also, it's a message board, I'll engage where I like :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    ricero wrote: »
    I'm a proud nationalist and republican just like Trump and Sinn Fein.

    Not possible that is a contradiction. Sinn Fein policies would be a complete anathema to Trump.
    You do realise the word "Republican" in American politics does not have the same meaning as the Irish context


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    - Republican Senator Mitt Romney
    LOL. Romney, despised by Democrats a few short years ago, is now their darling? :rolleyes:

    Well, Romney is wrong on the law, he hates Trump and hates that Trump nixed his bid to become Secretary of State. He has said Trump is a cad, phony, fraud, and low-life. My, what losing a presidential election seems to do to all the wannabe presidential losers.

    Romney’s explanation for his vote doesn’t square. He claims he voted his conscience, but because he believes there should be no investigation into Joe Biden’s abuse of power with his quid pro quo, of which he admitted to on TV, how can he vote to remove Trump from office for doing his job and having legitimate concerns of Biden’s corruption? Seems to me Trump acted on his conscience, also.

    I think hatred trumped Romney’s conscience.

    He should have followed the wishes of the people of Utah he claims to represents or not voted at all. Utah’s Desert News recently polled residents on impeachment and found 39% percent at least somewhat in favor of removal, and 53% at least somewhat opposed. With around 30% of Utah voters are democrats the 39% is expected, but the 53% represents the majority will of the people of Utah.

    Romney appears to be on the road to being a one term Utah Senator.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,723 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Boggles wrote:
    Unless she starts raw dogging porn stars, sexually assaulting people or trying to blackmail Ukraine into cheating an election, I don't think she will get near his level TBF.
    She doesn't have to do anything else, She only needed to do one stupid, disrespectful thing that's similar to what he'd do and she is considered just like him by the public.
    It was an idiotic move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Well, Romney is wrong on the law, he hates Trump and hates that Trump nixed his bid to become Secretary of State. He has said Trump is a cad, phony, fraud, and low-life.

    That's fair timid compared to what other Republican Senators have called him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    That's fair timid compared to what other Republican Senators have called him.

    Strange... I thought you didn't care about US politics.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    eagle eye wrote: »
    She doesn't have to do anything else, She only needed to do one stupid, disrespectful thing that's similar to what he'd do and she is considered just like him by the public.
    It was an idiotic move.

    So tell me who are you talking about, Trumps horséshít speech or Nancy tearing up some paper?

    It isn't the first time she made Trump the footnote in the Presidents State of the Union speech.

    giphy.gif

    It's an absolute genius move. AGAIN.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    notobtuse wrote: »
    LOL. Romney, despised by Democrats a few short years ago, is now their darling? :rolleyes:

    Well, Romney is wrong on the law, he hates Trump and hates that Trump nixed his bid to become Secretary of State. He has said Trump is a cad, phony, fraud, and low-life. My, what losing a presidential election seems to do to all the wannabe presidential losers.

    Romney’s explanation for his vote doesn’t square. He claims he voted his conscience, but because he believes there should be no investigation into Joe Biden’s abuse of power with his quid pro quo, of which he admitted to on TV, how can he vote to remove Trump from office for doing his job and having legitimate concerns of Biden’s corruption? Seems to me Trump acted on his conscience, also.

    I think hatred trumped Romney’s conscience.

    He should have followed the wishes of the people of Utah he claims to represents or not voted at all. Utah’s Desert News recently polled residents on impeachment and found 39% percent at least somewhat in favor of removal, and 53% at least somewhat opposed. With around 30% of Utah voters are democrats the 39% is expected, but the 53% represents the majority will of the people of Utah.

    Romney appears to be on the road to being a one term Utah Senator.

    Or maybe just maybe he saw what the majority of Americans and what the majority of the world saw and was brave enough to stand up and vote with his head and heart rather than his political livelihood.

    It is obvious from comments made by certain other senators that they knew what he did was impeachable but they didnt have to courage to vote that way.

    When you say he should have followed the wishes of the voters in Utah, perhaps then the Senate should have followed the wishes of the American public and vote the impeach


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Strange... I thought you didn't care about US politics.

    I do enjoy a good soap opera.

    But back to the point, Romney did say some unfavorable stuff (all true) about Trump but it pales in comparison to what Lindsay said, which was all true too.

    Any comment on that?

    Or back to Bad Orange Man Beat me Harder cheer leading?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    kilns wrote: »
    Or maybe just maybe he saw what the majority of Americans and what the majority of the world saw and was brave enough to stand up and vote with his head and heart rather than his political livelihood.

    It is obvious from comments made by certain other senators that they knew what he did was impeachable but they didnt have to courage to vote that way.

    When you say he should have followed the wishes of the voters in Utah, perhaps then the Senate should have followed the wishes of the American public and vote the impeach
    Nah. If anything they should have followed the law, and the law is on Trump's side.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,525 ✭✭✭kilns


    notobtuse wrote: »
    Nah. If anything they should have followed the law, and the law is on Trump's side.

    funniest thing I have heard all day

    Thats why 800 former prosecutors both Democratic and Republican signed a document confirming he would be prosecuted if he were not President


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,464 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    notobtuse wrote: »
    and the law is on Trump's side.

    It would appear 52-53% of it is anyway....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Boggles wrote: »
    I do enjoy a good soap opera.

    But back to the point, Romney did say some unfavorable stuff (all true) about Trump but it pales in comparison to what Lindsay said, which was all true too.

    Any comment on that?

    Or back to Bad Orange Man Beat me Harder cheer leading?
    It's no secret Never-Trumpers and the Deep State remain in powerful positions withing the government. Graham speaks his mind but ultimately remains on Trump's side. Looking forward to him initiating an investigation into Quid Pro Joe, Hunter Biden and Bursima regarding Ukraine and US government officials corruption.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



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