Do you know who your voting for?

Peatys · 05-02-2020 07:18AM

Graces7 · 05-02-2020 07:35AM

I am actually not voting. It all happened so fast and I had not reregistered out here and the time it would take to get the paperwork done made it impossible, Housebound and would need a postal vote. Not fit to get to get to the Gardaí etc, for the needed signatures.

Also the seat here is totally "safe"

Capt'n Midnight · 05-02-2020 08:31PM

uch wrote: »

Whomever produces the biggest Cake

One young kiddie on Cake cried all the water out of his body. Just imagine how his mother felt. It's a f***ing disgrace.
- Bernard Manning:

perrito caliente · 05-02-2020 08:36PM

First time voting in this country and I'll be voting for Sin Fein.

Rufeo · 05-02-2020 11:01PM

Yes i will vote for independents.

BalcombeSt4 · 06-02-2020 12:22AM

I'm glad to see more people being open to vote SF, and that predjudicial attitude of them being a "Northern Party" linked to the IRA is starting to fade, especially with a young generation coming up who don't remeber the 30 year war as much as the last generation did, just how younger people in the mid 1930's didn't have as much memories of Dev & others during the Anti-Treaty IRA campaign, who didn't have the Dev's "wading through Irish blood" speech stuck in their head, and those people who left SF & the IRA to join FF.

I think it's stupid not to vote for SF just because they were very remotely connected to a war that ended 23 years ago. If you like their policies & the people standing for them, well then vote for them.
It would be like me not voting for FG because they were linked to a proto-Fascist organiztion 80 some years ago, if I agreed with their policies I would vote for them.

And FF & FG people (& some SF & Lab to be fair) are very vague in their answers to questions & reasons to vote for them, it's like when Noam Chomsky said Obama was very extremly vague on his political positions because he didn't want to give too much away. His slogan was "Hope & Change"? Hope for what & change for who? Well he gave Israel more money & military aid than any other president to help Gaza go back to the stone age, he supported the 2012 & 2014 attacks on Gaza which were genocidal in nature, increased the drone terror assassination campaign worldwide wiping out a group of people at a wedding party in Pakistan.

Leo does that a lot (not on the mlitary topics obviously) with cheap FG mantras, telling people there is a "recovery" & the homeless crisis is being solved, they are all lies, I know at least a dozen people who killed themselves in the last 5 years, two of them very close to me, one was a friend since childhood, the other was like a brother to me he was my cousin & we lived togther for a year or two, he was like the only person I could tell everything to & he broke up with his girlfriend & that fckued him up.

So I want a government that can sort out, help or reduce the economic problems, the unemployment problems, the high rate of suicide, the gangland killings, the homeless emergency, do things to reduce climate change, problems with hospitals (cheers Minister Harris), plus I'd like Ireland to stand up even more & speak out louder for the Palestinian people.
Even tho I'm a Libertarian Socialist (anarcho socialist) I'm also a realist & I think Sinn Fein understand at least the social problems better than the Clongowes Boys club, who I believe don't give a **** about homeless or suicidal people or people in Dublin streets in alleyways sticking needles in their arms & swalling packs of Valium & Xanax in broad day light, aslong as the Ministers get their nice pay checks at the end of the week it's all good, even when it's all a terrible mess.

So I urge people to use that vote wisely, there wont be radical change no matter who wins, the EU, USA, IMF & World Bank will see to that, but we can put a step in the right direction.

Pherekydes · 06-02-2020 12:34AM

I would've voted SocDem, but they're not running a candidate in my constituency.

Better Than Christ · 06-02-2020 03:15AM

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

There is no need to game it out like that - vote for who you want. Your vote will either help elect the SF guy or be transferred to help the SD person after the SF guy is elected.

If there was any doubt at all, I'd give him my first preference. He's a shoe-in though. The Soc Dem candidate really needs number ones. I really want her to win a seat because apart from being a really good local councillor with tonnes of ability, there's a good chance that she'll take a seat from Fianna Fáil.

garrettod · 06-02-2020 03:27AM

Hi

I know who I'll be giving my first two preference votes to, nether are sitting TDs, but both individuals have been in politics for years and been visibly active in my area, actively helping their constituents, over the last few years.

I also know who will be getting my lowest preference votes, one of them being an outgoing Minister, who has done nothing for his constituency, either in the most recent term, or in a couple of terms before that. Its long past time that he was shown the door.

The challenge remains with assigning priority votes to the rest of the candidates. With many 4 or even 5 seat constituencies now in existence, every vote counts!

Idbatterim · 06-02-2020 04:49AM

Hmmm. Mickey Mouse or varadkar ( 3 months away from Taoiseach pension ) what inspiring options. Will give sf , aontu and greens a vote. Given we are likely getting the axis of failure again. I would prefer fg to be the senior party

Idbatterim · 06-02-2020 04:51AM

I see no point in a ff vote. We’ve been there. Lying useless incompetent. If voting for change , it should be sf, not ff!!!

Fccwontletmebe · 06-02-2020 05:05AM

upinthesky · 06-02-2020 06:23AM

SF all the way, how could you not give someone else a chance.

Gynoid · 06-02-2020 07:01AM

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

I think it's stupid not to vote for SF just because they were very remotely connected to a war that ended 23 years ago. If you like their policies & the people standing for them, well then vote for them.

This is why in their ignorance quite a few of the 30ish and younger people may vote Sinn Fein.
Remotely connected, me hole. Remotely connected?!!!
The punishment beatings, tribal enforcements, maintaining drugs territories and driving people who challenge them into hiding did not end 23 years ago. Far from it.

Edit - Jaysis I just noticed the "very" before remotely connected!!

Gynoid · 06-02-2020 07:25AM

Sinn Fein are so very remotely connected to the 23 year ago troubles that their present leader spent the better part of 2 decades following Gerry Adams about like a lovelorn gangster moll, the same Gerry who formed the Unknowns who were responsible for the disappearances of many including Jean McConville.
I swear the disappearance of truthful history is profoundly degrading our species' IQ in real time.

Always Tired · 06-02-2020 07:33AM

Fianna Fail are 1/8 on Paddypower to win the most seats. It's unbelievable.

Long ago I vowed to never vote for either FF or FG. When I was in college it was the height of the recession. I went as a mature student after the place I was working in closed, about 200 of us lost jobs.

I got lucky enough to get a part time job working in a hotel to help keep me going as the grant would only cover my weekly rent.

Then in 2010 FF, in a brilliant attempt at job creation, lowered the minimum wage by a euro. Well it certainly created one job - they hired a Polish lad at the new lower rate and suddenly my hours were cut to nothing. (Nothing against the Polish btw, it's just the fact of what happened.)

During a class rep meeting that year, several of us were talking about how unhappy we were with the current gov, and how we were worried about them reintroducing college fees. A member of young Fine Gael told us we should vote FG to stop that happening, boasting that FG were the party that abolished them in the first place.

FG got in, and they promptly brought the college fees in. They also cut the grant. I took out a loan to finish 3rd year, but I'll never forget having to give up my place in the honours year to go on tbe dole, because it was the only way I could make my rent (I wasnt on back to education as I hadn't been out of work long enough to qualify).

I'll also never forget applying for a job after dropping out, not getting it, and then reapplying for the same job same company six months later and getting it. Except it wasn't a job. It was a Jobbridge internship. Another great job creation strategy by FFG.

But, they say people get the politicians they deserve, and I believe that. I mean we must be a nation of utter dimwits to keep voting in these 2 parties that are as corrupt and incompetent as each other. Anyone who thinks FF will do any better than FG at the housing, health or pension issues seriously deluded.

I think it's all by design, have the only options be so bad that nearly half the country doesn't bother voting because they're so fed up and disgusted, and then the only ones voting are the FG/FF cronies.

I actually hope we have another recession, and that it's even worse than the last one. Not only because it's what we deserve, but because that's the only way we will ever finally get rid of these 2 piles of shìte. Tho tbh even that is optimistic.

CruelCoin · 06-02-2020 07:55AM

Always Tired wrote: »

Not only because it's what we deserve, but because that's the only way we will ever finally get rid of these 2 piles of shìte. Tho tbh even that is optimistic.

You hit it on the head with the "what we deserve" bit.

Given the complete sh*tshow that was the 2000's it should have been a shoein for the creation of a new party to challenge the establishment, but Renua went and ballsed that up by sticking to some...out of touch views?

The last two elections felt like the last presedential one in the US. How bad did they have to be to lose to FF/FG? How bad did Hillary have to be to lose to Trump, who was dropping scandals left right and centre?

I want some change from what we have but i have no real choice other than to continue voting for the established two because Sinn Feins "everything 4 free hurr" economic policies frankly frighten me.

Idbatterim · 06-02-2020 08:27AM

Christ. As bad as fg are , ff being the senior party is a baaaaaad outcome. We now have rampant populism, but also they sure as hell won’t address the issues , a leopard doesn’t change its spots !

dvdman1 · 06-02-2020 08:44AM

Idbatterim wrote: »

I see no point in a ff vote. We’ve been there. Lying useless incompetent. If voting for change , it should be sf, not ff!!!

Id never vote SF
Ask yourself how true are the following statments:

SF and mary take there orders directly from a back room ie the ira ex army council ? Even if this was a half true wouldn't we be voting for an irish hamas with bells n whistles, yes a bit exaggerated but an undermining of democracy and decency in our country.

Abolishing the special criminal court is a pledge of theres why? ...SF are the political wing of the IRA or used to be....have the ira and its members been involved in organised crime? Marting McGuinness while i have great respect for the man was convicted by this very court.

When you read there manifesto the figures dont add up. 100k homes built in that short space of time isn't possible even if we pulled ever bricky off every site in the country. Keeping pensions at 65, schools provision of nearly ever service expanding the public sector to levels never seen.
Basically telling people everything they want to hear and no detailed breakdown of how its paid for.

SF claim to be the real Republican party but in reality very few supported the armed struggle which in reality has put our dream of a united Ireland back a generation..it has created huge resentment and horror on both sides.

Putting SF in government in the Republic will only mean longer before unionist wake up and work with us.

Ush1 · 06-02-2020 09:25AM

Fine Gael 1 and Greens 2.

Woshy · 06-02-2020 09:47AM

Labour 1 and Greens 2

RollieFingers · 06-02-2020 10:01AM

Anyone but the FG/FF troglodytes.

The Tetrarch · 06-02-2020 10:10AM

March 02 2018
"Mary Lou McDonald closed her speech at the ard fheis where she assumed the leadership of Sinn Féin with the words 'tiocfaidh ár lá', a phrase long associated with the Provisional IRA."

I am voting Sinn Fein number 13.

iamwhoiam · 06-02-2020 10:14AM

I do now , it took me a few weeks but after seeing Mary Lou and hearing her pie in the sky manifesto I am not voting SF . I will vote Fine Gael as I swore to myself I would never ever vote FF again after its last performance .FG are the best of a very bad lot and thats my reasoning

Mad_maxx · 06-02-2020 12:59PM

Least left wing from top to bottom

maccored · 06-02-2020 02:48PM

dvdman1 wrote: »

Id never vote SF
Ask yourself how true are the following statments:

SF and mary take there orders directly from a back room ie the ira ex army council ? Even if this was a half true wouldn't we be voting for an irish hamas with bells n whistles, yes a bit exaggerated but an undermining of democracy and decency in our country.

Abolishing the special criminal court is a pledge of theres why? ...SF are the political wing of the IRA or used to be....have the ira and its members been involved in organised crime? Marting McGuinness while i have great respect for the man was convicted by this very court.

When you read there manifesto the figures dont add up. 100k homes built in that short space of time isn't possible even if we pulled ever bricky off every site in the country. Keeping pensions at 65, schools provision of nearly ever service expanding the public sector to levels never seen.
Basically telling people everything they want to hear and no detailed breakdown of how its paid for.

SF claim to be the real Republican party but in reality very few supported the armed struggle which in reality has put our dream of a united Ireland back a generation..it has created huge resentment and horror on both sides.

Putting SF in government in the Republic will only mean longer before unionist wake up and work with us.

How about not spreading porkies. The provos are gone and sf dont want to abolish the scc

The Tetrarch · 06-02-2020 03:19PM

maccored wrote: »

How about not spreading porkies. The provos are gone and sf dont want to abolish the scc

Yeah, dissident republican is the term now.

Slasher · 06-02-2020 05:25PM

maccored wrote: »

How about not spreading porkies. The provos are gone and sf dont want to abolish the scc

The provos are not gone - they are "ready to go" at a moment's notice. They actually think they have a duty to be ready to defend the nationalist community.

SF do want to abolish the Special Criminal Court. It is in their manifesto.

SF want to introduce a four-day-week. That is not in their manifesto, but it is on the website of An Phoblacht. How nutty is that?

0gac3yjefb5sv7 · 06-02-2020 05:28PM

Greens 1. Best of the worst after that.

is_that_so · 06-02-2020 05:28PM

maccored wrote: »

How about not spreading porkies. The provos are gone and sf dont want to abolish the scc

Until very recently they did, now it needs to be "reviewed".

Do you know who your voting for?

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