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Hurrache · 05-02-2020 10:57PM

facehugger99 wrote: »

Did you learn a couple of new words recently?

He just got the orders in from SF HQ on what today's phrase is.

James Brown · 05-02-2020 10:58PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

It is a lot closer than 20 years ago..... also if they watch love island it is likely the majority of that cohort would not be voting anyway?

Desperate

ThunbergsAreGo · 05-02-2020 10:59PM

Zetor19 wrote: »

Have actually never voted for Sinn Fein before but 100% will be on Saturday.

Why?

What policy?

Jinglejangle69 · 05-02-2020 10:59PM

SF still playing the victim card?

We aren't allowed on the debate wahh wahh.

We were allowed on the debate wahh wahh.

My 4 year old has more self awareness around consequences than these clowns.

Always the victim, never their fault.

Spanish Eyes · 05-02-2020 11:01PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

No but it does begin with an S.

Go on be real and say it out. I couldn't give a flying F. anyway.

But so far the thread has been relatively civilised thankfully. Don't know how long that will last though!

FrancieBrady · 05-02-2020 11:02PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

SF still playing the victim card?

We aren't allowed on the debate wahh wahh.

We were allowed on the debate wahh wahh.

My 4 year old has more self awareness around consequences than these clowns.

Always the victim, never their fault.

The decision by RTE was shown clearly to be wrong, because they caved in. More than SF complained about it.

Who has wahh wahhed 'about being allowed on it'? I think Michael Martin whinged about it alright.

gmisk · 05-02-2020 11:04PM

The tonight show in wicklow....Simon Harris didn't make it...they are keeping him well hidden

Suckit · 05-02-2020 11:11PM

gmisk wrote: »

Any need for that?
Not sure what relevance that has when it comes to an election

If anyone pointed out for example, the gigantic ears and nose of Leo are going to keep growing as he gets older, they would probably be shouted down.

Hurrache · 05-02-2020 11:12PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Lose the sepia-tinted specs. You want to embrace the futility of an era not one of us can change, try inventing a time machine. Some of us are rooted in the 21st century, and react accordingly to recent incompetence at the ballox box.

I figure this is aimed at those harping on about the tans and you just misquoted me.

freshpopcorn · 05-02-2020 11:12PM

There's actually a video going around of Leo at the gym this morning and people were giving out that he was there.

Spanish Eyes · 05-02-2020 11:12PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The decision by RTE was shown clearly to be wrong, because they caved in. More than SF complained about it.

Who has wahh wahhed 'about being allowed on it'? I think Michael Martin whinged about it alright.

MLMD has had the best publicity ever by making a tit of herself regarding the nefarious activities of SF.

Very glad she appeared on the debate. It is not that she was not a decent debater, it was more that she had to toe the party line regarding SCC, murders and so on. That's what got me. The rest of her debating was ok up to that.

But the Army Council had an earpiece in her ear anyway.

realdanbreen · 05-02-2020 11:13PM

Suckit wrote: »

If anyone pointed out the similarity between MM and Golum, or pointed out the gigantic ears and nose of Leo are going to keep growing as he gets older, they would probably be shouted down.

That's true I suppose BTW did you see the head of Gerry lately. He's like something out of Harry Potter!

gmisk · 05-02-2020 11:14PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

There's actually a video going around of Leo at the gym this morning and people were giving out that he was there.

Is it not illegal to video someone in a gym?! If not it should be.
Why would they be giving out?

freshpopcorn · 05-02-2020 11:16PM

gmisk wrote: »

Is it not illegal to video someone in a gym?! If not it should be.
Why would they be giving out?

I think it was an Instagram video.
I'm not fully sure about the legalities of it.

He should be running the country and not at the gym.

Jinglejangle69 · 05-02-2020 11:18PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think it was an Instagram video.
I'm not fully sure about the legalities of it.

He should be running the country and not at the gym.

Ah jaysus.

05-02-2020 11:18PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You're obviously an avid SF supporter- regulars here know that. So can I ask you a question- do you think the SF approach in this election maximises their vote or could they have gone about things differently, a more fresh, modern approach?

They'll certainly increase their seats, that we know at this stage- but winning over older voters who may have been against them in the past? I don't think they've done half as much as they could have.

What's your view?

No reply Francie?

I know it's a difficult question but I thought you'd at least attempt an answer. SF avoiding the difficult questions again?

gmisk · 05-02-2020 11:18PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think it was an Instagram video.
I'm not fully sure about the legalities of it.

He should be running the country and not at the gym.

Is he meant to be in work all day?! Is he not allowed to do anything outside of work? What an absolutely ridiculous comment.

FrancieBrady · 05-02-2020 11:19PM

Fairly much on the money here IMO.

Person 1: What’s all this about Paul Quinn? Who is he?

Person 2: He’s a young man from South Armagh who was brutally murdered by a gang of men in 2007.

Person 1: Yuck. Sounds ghastly.

Person 2: Apparently it was. I could give you details but I won’t.

Person 1: Thanks for that. But why is it in the news now?

Person 2: Sinn Féin’s Conor Murphy at the time asked the local IRA if they were involved and they said they weren’t.

Person 1: Did anyone else agree with him?

Person 2: Yes indeed. The Taoiseach at the time, Bertie Ahern, said he believed it was part of a criminal feud.

Person 1: Did he base this belief on anything?

Person 2: He did. Reports from from both the gardaí and the PSNI, he said, who judged it was part of a criminal feud.

Person 1: Well, that’s that, then.

Person 2: Not quite. Paul Quinn’s mother has called on Conor Murphy to apologise for suggesting her son had any criminal links, to give the names of the people he spoke to back then to the PSNI, and to resign as Finance Minister.

Person 1: Crikey. Doesn’t seem to believe Bertie, then. Or the cops.

Person 2: It appears not.

Person 1: But all this happened in 2007, you say?

Person 2: It did.

Person 1: So why this sudden attention to the case? Has it anything to do with the election coming up on Saturday?

Person 2: Pass.

Person 1: But presumably Fianna Fail and Fine Gael have scrupulously avoided making this young man’s death an election issue?

Person 2: Au contraire. They’ve been using it like there were just three days to voting day and Sinn Féin were top of the last opinion poll.

Person 1: Yuck. A bit distasteful, that.

Person 2: But not unique.

Person 1: How’d you mean?

Person 2: Well, when Martin McGuinness was running for president in 2011, a man jumped in front of the TV cameras and accused him of knowing who killed his father.

Person 1: Oh.

Person 2: And in 2014, just before voting day, Gerry Adams was arrested about the death of Jean McConville.

Person 1: Mmm. Something of a pattern emerging then.

Person 2: There were those who predicted the kitchen sink would be thrown at the Shinners this week.

Person 1: But I’m sure Leo and Micheál are purely motivated by compassion for Mrs Quinn.

Person 2: You may be right. Both men have big hearts. Which ache over carefully selected tragedies.

Person 1: So housing and health are no longer top of the agenda in this election?

Person 2: Well yes. Except Leo and Micheál and the media both sides of the border seem to have largely shelved those issues.

Person 1: So are Leo and Micheál hoping to make political capital out of this tragedy?

Person 2: What a shocking thing to say. Leo and Micheál are honourable men. As are the members of their parties. They are all honorable men. And women.

Person 1: That sounds like Shakespeare. Julius Caesar?

Person 2: Correct. Mark Antony’s speech at Caesar’s graveside. He used Caesar’s death to whip up the mob.

Person 1: But that was just a play. Not real life.

Person 2: Of course.

Person 1: Are the voters raising the Quinn case at the doorstep?

Person 2: Don’t think so. More houses and jobs and health, really.

Person 1: But Leo and Micheál are – you surely don’t mean Leo and Micheál are using this death – which happened thirteen years ago – as a way of halting Sinn Féin’s rise in the polls?

Person 2: What a shocking thing to say. See you on Saturday. Toodle-pip.

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speckled_park · 05-02-2020 11:20PM

gmisk wrote: »

Is he meant to be in work all day?! Is he not allow to do anything outside of work? What a ridiculous comment.

I agree. And I'm not a fan of Leo

McMurphy · 05-02-2020 11:20PM

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Paddy power are spilt on 5/6 over 28.5 seats and 5/6 under 28.5 seats

Was 24.5 just the other day.

05-02-2020 11:21PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

There's actually a video going around of Leo at the gym this morning and people were giving out that he was there.

Need to be fit if you're running around the country pressing the flesh- he's a regular jogger around the Blanchardstown/Castleknock area - Michael Martin also goes a mile a minute -I'd prefer my leader to be physically fit than some over-weight oaf :pac::pac::pac::pac:

realdanbreen · 05-02-2020 11:22PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I think it was an Instagram video.
I'm not fully sure about the legalities of it.

He should be running the country and not at the gym.

When will people realise that the politicians don't "run the country " They set policies and pass legislation but the public service runs the country.

gmisk · 05-02-2020 11:22PM

speckled_park wrote: »

I agree. And I'm not a fan of Leo

I am no fan either.
But a person is allowed to have a bloody life outside of work!
It's not as if he is going around clubbing seals!

FrancieBrady · 05-02-2020 11:22PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

MLMD has had the best publicity ever by making a tit of herself regarding the nefarious activities of SF.

Very glad she appeared on the debate. It is not that she was not a decent debater, it was more that she had to toe the party line regarding SCC, murders and so on. That's what got me. The rest of her debating was ok up to that.

But the Army Council had an earpiece in her ear anyway.

If you are going to respond at least answer the question in the post.

Who has wahh wahhed 'about being allowed on it'?

Jinglejangle69 · 05-02-2020 11:23PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Fairly much on the money here IMO.

Person 1: What’s all this about Paul Quinn? Who is he?

Person 2: He’s a young man from South Armagh who was brutally murdered by a gang of men in 2007.
Still not voting SF Francie??

Person 1: Yuck. Sounds ghastly.

Person 2: Apparently it was. I could give you details but I won’t.

Person 1: Thanks for that. But why is it in the news now?

Person 2: Sinn Féin’s Conor Murphy at the time asked the local IRA if they were involved and they said they weren’t.

Person 1: Did anyone else agree with him?

Person 2: Yes indeed. The Taoiseach at the time, Bertie Ahern, said he believed it was part of a criminal feud.

Person 1: Did he base this belief on anything?

Person 2: He did. Reports from from both the gardaí and the PSNI, he said, who judged it was part of a criminal feud.

Person 1: Well, that’s that, then.

Person 2: Not quite. Paul Quinn’s mother has called on Conor Murphy to apologise for suggesting her son had any criminal links, to give the names of the people he spoke to back then to the PSNI, and to resign as Finance Minister.

Person 1: Crikey. Doesn’t seem to believe Bertie, then. Or the cops.

Person 2: It appears not.

Person 1: But all this happened in 2007, you say?

Person 2: It did.

Person 1: So why this sudden attention to the case? Has it anything to do with the election coming up on Saturday?

Person 2: Pass.

Person 1: But presumably Fianna Fail and Fine Gael have scrupulously avoided making this young man’s death an election issue?

Person 2: Au contraire. They’ve been using it like there were just three days to voting day and Sinn Féin were top of the last opinion poll.

Person 1: Yuck. A bit distasteful, that.

Person 2: But not unique.

Person 1: How’d you mean?

Person 2: Well, when Martin McGuinness was running for president in 2011, a man jumped in front of the TV cameras and accused him of knowing who killed his father.

Person 1: Oh.

Person 2: And in 2014, just before voting day, Gerry Adams was arrested about the death of Jean McConville.

Person 1: Mmm. Something of a pattern emerging then.

Person 2: There were those who predicted the kitchen sink would be thrown at the Shinners this week.

Person 1: But I’m sure Leo and Micheál are purely motivated by compassion for Mrs Quinn.

Person 2: You may be right. Both men have big hearts. Which ache over carefully selected tragedies.

Person 1: So housing and health are no longer top of the agenda in this election?

Person 2: Well yes. Except Leo and Micheál and the media both sides of the border seem to have largely shelved those issues.

Person 1: So are Leo and Micheál hoping to make political capital out of this tragedy?

Person 2: What a shocking thing to say. Leo and Micheál are honourable men. As are the members of their parties. They are all honorable men. And women.

Person 1: That sounds like Shakespeare. Julius Caesar?

Person 2: Correct. Mark Antony’s speech at Caesar’s graveside. He used Caesar’s death to whip up the mob.

Person 1: But that was just a play. Not real life.

Person 2: Of course.

Person 1: Are the voters raising the Quinn case at the doorstep?

Person 2: Don’t think so. More houses and jobs and health, really.

Person 1: But Leo and Micheál are – you surely don’t mean Leo and Micheál are using this death – which happened thirteen years ago – as a way of halting Sinn Féin’s rise in the polls?

Person 2: What a shocking thing to say. See you on Saturday. Toodle-pip.

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Spoof:)

05-02-2020 11:23PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Fairly much on the money here IMO.

Person 1: What’s all this about Paul Quinn? Who is he?

Person 2: He’s a young man from South Armagh who was brutally murdered by a gang of men in 2007.

Person 1: Yuck. Sounds ghastly.

Person 2: Apparently it was. I could give you details but I won’t.

Person 1: Thanks for that. But why is it in the news now?

Person 2: Sinn Féin’s Conor Murphy at the time asked the local IRA if they were involved and they said they weren’t.

Person 1: Did anyone else agree with him?

Person 2: Yes indeed. The Taoiseach at the time, Bertie Ahern, said he believed it was part of a criminal feud.

Person 1: Did he base this belief on anything?

Person 2: He did. Reports from from both the gardaí and the PSNI, he said, who judged it was part of a criminal feud.

Person 1: Well, that’s that, then.

Person 2: Not quite. Paul Quinn’s mother has called on Conor Murphy to apologise for suggesting her son had any criminal links, to give the names of the people he spoke to back then to the PSNI, and to resign as Finance Minister.

Person 1: Crikey. Doesn’t seem to believe Bertie, then. Or the cops.

Person 2: It appears not.

Person 1: But all this happened in 2007, you say?

Person 2: It did.

Person 1: So why this sudden attention to the case? Has it anything to do with the election coming up on Saturday?

Person 2: Pass.

Person 1: But presumably Fianna Fail and Fine Gael have scrupulously avoided making this young man’s death an election issue?

Person 2: Au contraire. They’ve been using it like there were just three days to voting day and Sinn Féin were top of the last opinion poll.

Person 1: Yuck. A bit distasteful, that.

Person 2: But not unique.

Person 1: How’d you mean?

Person 2: Well, when Martin McGuinness was running for president in 2011, a man jumped in front of the TV cameras and accused him of knowing who killed his father.

Person 1: Oh.

Person 2: And in 2014, just before voting day, Gerry Adams was arrested about the death of Jean McConville.

Person 1: Mmm. Something of a pattern emerging then.

Person 2: There were those who predicted the kitchen sink would be thrown at the Shinners this week.

Person 1: But I’m sure Leo and Micheál are purely motivated by compassion for Mrs Quinn.

Person 2: You may be right. Both men have big hearts. Which ache over carefully selected tragedies.

Person 1: So housing and health are no longer top of the agenda in this election?

Person 2: Well yes. Except Leo and Micheál and the media both sides of the border seem to have largely shelved those issues.

Person 1: So are Leo and Micheál hoping to make political capital out of this tragedy?

Person 2: What a shocking thing to say. Leo and Micheál are honourable men. As are the members of their parties. They are all honorable men. And women.

Person 1: That sounds like Shakespeare. Julius Caesar?

Person 2: Correct. Mark Antony’s speech at Caesar’s graveside. He used Caesar’s death to whip up the mob.

Person 1: But that was just a play. Not real life.

Person 2: Of course.

Person 1: Are the voters raising the Quinn case at the doorstep?

Person 2: Don’t think so. More houses and jobs and health, really.

Person 1: But Leo and Micheál are – you surely don’t mean Leo and Micheál are using this death – which happened thirteen years ago – as a way of halting Sinn Féin’s rise in the polls?

Person 2: What a shocking thing to say. See you on Saturday. Toodle-pip.

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Did you not get the memo? SFHQ have officially apologised. You no longer need to "defend" the party line.

Check your emails and texts- the party line has now officially changed. Ceasefire!

Suckit · 05-02-2020 11:24PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

That's true I suppose BTW did you see the head of Gerry lately. He's like something out of Harry Potter!

Nope, probably wouldn't recognise him. I see Bertie scurrying about the place like a red nosed rodent, though.

But to be honest, it wasn't his looks that made me dislike him.

It'd be a special kind of voter that looks for that in a politician.

05-02-2020 11:24PM

FrancieBrady wrote: »

If you are going to respond at least answer the question in the post.

If only you would Francie-Baby- if only you would.

realdanbreen · 05-02-2020 11:25PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No reply Francie?

I know it's a difficult question but I thought you'd at least attempt an answer. SF avoiding the difficult questions again?

Ssshh. Francie is after nodding off.Poor little lads been on the keyboard all night and day defending SF.

gmisk · 05-02-2020 11:25PM

realdanbreen wrote: »

When will people realise that the politicians don't "run the country " They set policies and pass legislation but the public service runs the country.

But TDs are the heads of the departments with the public servants no?
Well they have been in my experience.
I worked for the department of education, DPER and a few others over the years.

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